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+Friend | Jun 29 2008
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InBomb
70 Broa Chief Bandit
 
Highest Lukless Str Bandit in GMS looking for the rest. :D
It seems like we're kind of non-existent but with all of the support we've been getting lately, I thought it wouldn't hurt to make a thread to see if any are out and about yet.

So lemme know, Mkay?

Third job advancement video

link

For people curious about my damage

link Lv 45 with a bunch of my friend's Shield and WG--crazy +Atk
link Lv 50, regular equips--still using a crappy Dex WG
link Lv 60, 6 ATK WG, a couple of points of Luk on the cape, first picture with my hot 7 dex 12 jump 2 luk Blackstraps
link Lv 67, 8 atk WG, 3 Atk 8 dex PAC, and GM Bless
link Lv 70 before Job advancement, but I don't feel like logging on to get a post-advancement shot. Btw, my friend took back his PAC, so my damage is gimped. =(
link Lv 70 before Job advancement--with an Onyx Apple. xD
link Lv 70, with Z-helm, no pots on.

Builds for people who have wondered

Well, it all depends on what you want to use in first job: daggers/double stab or non-daggers/disorder (which is the way I went).

Daggers/Double stab wise you'de want minimum Str for your daggers and as much Dex as possible. Since Str and Dex give the same attack boost to dagger damage--however Dex also gives avoid and acc--it's kind of a no-brainer, Dex > Str

Non-daggers/Disorder wise (AKA: My Build), you want to do the "Beginner thing" and follow a Warrior build--which is why my Dit has 145 Str. However, eventually you have to cap your Str and start adding Dex since your accuracy will begin to get crappy because of thieves having different accuracy formulas from the other classes. But from there on it's pretty much Dex, dex, and more dex.

Skill build wise is pretty much up to you. Daggers/2S in first job is quicker than non-daggers/disorder, but Disorder's w. def and w. atk decrease effects are really nice to have later on--and to act as a support dit in places you really can't train by yourself but can party at. Especially since 2S becomes worthless pretty quickly. And 1st job takes..what..3~5 days of leisurely playing?
Mastery isn't needed very quickly unless you're lacking Acc or are using some Luk Equips. Booster's always nice to have, though. :D
Steal is still useless. Endure is hot.
The main thing to really ask yourself skill wise is--Do I want to go Haste first or SB first?
All I have to say is--if you're gonna CPQ, get Haste and spam whatever level of disorder you have as a support dit. I've won plenty of 2v2s and 3v3s that way.
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+Friend | 07/02/08
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blehBestie
64 Bellocan Fighter
 
so weak dmg. o-o

+Friend | 07/02/08
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iHeartJezus
19 Windia Rogue
 
Is this good damage?

+Friend | 07/02/08
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Theftbyamexi
90 Scania Chief Bandit
 
y1pperz said: "so weak dmg. o-o"


Its probably the only class that can survive and work "well" without its main stat...Anyways, darn you and your thread, InBomb You keep knocking out my threads, I've made like 4 of them asking for help, but they all died in like, 2 minutes...

+Friend | 07/02/08
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Jostice
75 Scania Hermit
 
Anyone here who is a regular dit could tell me how a lukless dit stands against a normal dit or str dit ?
Is their damage higher ? i know it's more stable but higher ?
And for you, Mr highest lukless dit, do you feel stronger than other normal dits you maple with ?

+Friend | edited: Jul 02 2008
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Theftbyamexi
90 Scania Chief Bandit
 
Peregrin said: "Anyone here who is a regular dit could tell me how a lukless dit stands against a normal dit or str dit ?
Is their damage higher ? i know it's more stable but higher ?
And for you, Mr highest lukless dit, do you feel stronger than other normal dits you maple with ?"



Their damage is lower, but their range is like, a 50 point difference, so its super-stable. Yes, they aren't for the damage whores out there, but they seem fun, and I play on making one soon =P The normal dit wins out in power, but one being better than the other isn't what matters; what matters is the fun you get out of the game~

Anyways, you think that you'd know that Luck gives more damage than dex, to the thief class o_o The dex makes it more stable, though.

+Friend | 07/02/08
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OmokPirate
63 Windia Gunslinger

 
I'm currently lvl 19 on my lukless dit and I have a lvl 4 double stab. I do about as much damage as a normal dit my lvl.

The only reason for this is because of the stability. I do constant 60s while he'll do 70s and 20s. Once in awhile, he'll do maybe 100 and 70, but it's not too often. I, for one, am enjoying this. I always 2hit octopuses, 3hit blue mushrooms, and I love the stability.

+Friend | 07/02/08
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jespaillat92
78 Scania Crusader
 
lol, wat equips, cuz once i start and work on a lukless dit then imma give it some good items =P
New Pic: my bro

+Friend | 07/02/08
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AznLuster11
70 Broa Hermit
 
WHAT'S THE POINT? I mean, HP warriors have HP. Strength mages have teleport. Luck warriors have avoid ability. But why could you POSSIBLY want to make a luckless bandit?

+Friend | 07/02/08
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soulzmobie
51 Windia I/L Wizard
 
Very stable damage, I see.
:o

+Friend | 07/02/08
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Even though he said it in a horrble fashion, I do agree with him, it is more time and money consuming than normal.

But who am i to judge. I think its intresting to do it. Good luck with it

xMaLiCiOuSx said: "


Finally someone with some intelligence. Honestly, a lukless str bandit? Jeez wow you're really cool.....,not. All it means is that you're going to do incredibly low damage and level incredibly slowly while using far more mesos than the average bandit to do so. You keep making threads and talking about how you're the highest level lukless thief in GMS, it's not an impressive feat at all because noone bothers making them. If you really wanted to be a lukless thief to have fun and for a personal challenge then you should've just kept it to yourself instead of announcing it all of freakin basilmarket. Quite frankly you're the most pathetic bandit I've ever seen."

+Friend | 07/02/08
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OmokPirate
63 Windia Gunslinger

 
deedeedee401 said: "lol, wat equips, cuz once i start and work on a lukless dit then imma give it some good items =P"


Right now I'm using a 9att WG and a 6dex 17acc brown dana with normal clothes and a normal field dagger. I was thinking about giving it some luk equips for the hell of it, but I don't know if it'd ruin the point of being lukless. Then again, InBomb has some extra luk on him.

+Friend | 07/02/08
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ElectricKnee
82 Broa Chief Bandit
 
smartguy11 said: "WHAT'S THE POINT? I mean, HP warriors have HP. Strength mages have teleport. Luck warriors have avoid ability. But why could you POSSIBLY want to make a luckless bandit?"


uber stabilty? lol @ luk warrior, the avoid is that useful @ higher levels..lol

+Friend | edited: Jul 02 2008
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InBomb
70 Broa Chief Bandit
 
smartguy11 said: "WHAT'S THE POINT? I mean, HP warriors have HP. Strength mages have teleport. Luck warriors have avoid ability. But why could you POSSIBLY want to make a luckless bandit?"


Well, lets put it like this: Disorder, Nimble Body, Dark Sight, Haste, Savage Blow, Endure, Assaulter, Band of Thieves, Meso Explosion, Meso Guard, Chakra, and Pickpocket.
And extremely stable damage to boot.
Some Bandits say "Oh, I hit 4k~6k per SB", I lol in their face and go "SOMETIMES 4K AND SOMETIMES 6K? Whats wrong with you! :D I always hit 2.1k, Lulz"

Im glad to see people trying out my build.
Good news and bad news! :D
Good news first--I saw Hancock today, and a friend was letting me leech her for a bit while I saw the movie so I could level a little bit at least.
Bad news--I lost 10% due to a hacker at FoG while I was seeing Hancock--so Im down to 80%.
Im gonna PPQ tonight, I know Im gonna get my hat, and hopefully level. :D Expect a video on the fourth at the most.


I was thinking about giving it some luk equips for the hell of it, but I don't know if it'd ruin the point of being lukless. Then again, InBomb has some extra luk on him.

Do it. :P Dexless Sins wearing Dex Equips? That lets me weak Luk equips and not get yelled at thank you very much. xD
But overall, just remember rule number 1: "W Atk > Any other stat". ^^

+Friend | 07/02/08
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OmokPirate
63 Windia Gunslinger

 
Aww that sucks! Hurry up and level!

And yes, I'm trying your build, but I find at least 4 points into 2S to work out pretty well for me for the speed.

I'm trying it out as a dagger-lukless build. 4 points into 2S, 20 Disorder, 20 DarkSight, 17 nimble. Do you think this would be good?

+Friend | 07/02/08
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HeaIMeBish
55 Bera Cleric
 
Lol. That's awesome. Keep it up.
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