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+Friend | Jun 29 2008
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InBomb
70 Broa Chief Bandit
 
Highest Lukless Str Bandit in GMS looking for the rest. :D
It seems like we're kind of non-existent but with all of the support we've been getting lately, I thought it wouldn't hurt to make a thread to see if any are out and about yet.

So lemme know, Mkay?

Third job advancement video

link

For people curious about my damage

link Lv 45 with a bunch of my friend's Shield and WG--crazy +Atk
link Lv 50, regular equips--still using a crappy Dex WG
link Lv 60, 6 ATK WG, a couple of points of Luk on the cape, first picture with my hot 7 dex 12 jump 2 luk Blackstraps
link Lv 67, 8 atk WG, 3 Atk 8 dex PAC, and GM Bless
link Lv 70 before Job advancement, but I don't feel like logging on to get a post-advancement shot. Btw, my friend took back his PAC, so my damage is gimped. =(
link Lv 70 before Job advancement--with an Onyx Apple. xD
link Lv 70, with Z-helm, no pots on.

Builds for people who have wondered

Well, it all depends on what you want to use in first job: daggers/double stab or non-daggers/disorder (which is the way I went).

Daggers/Double stab wise you'de want minimum Str for your daggers and as much Dex as possible. Since Str and Dex give the same attack boost to dagger damage--however Dex also gives avoid and acc--it's kind of a no-brainer, Dex > Str

Non-daggers/Disorder wise (AKA: My Build), you want to do the "Beginner thing" and follow a Warrior build--which is why my Dit has 145 Str. However, eventually you have to cap your Str and start adding Dex since your accuracy will begin to get crappy because of thieves having different accuracy formulas from the other classes. But from there on it's pretty much Dex, dex, and more dex.

Skill build wise is pretty much up to you. Daggers/2S in first job is quicker than non-daggers/disorder, but Disorder's w. def and w. atk decrease effects are really nice to have later on--and to act as a support dit in places you really can't train by yourself but can party at. Especially since 2S becomes worthless pretty quickly. And 1st job takes..what..3~5 days of leisurely playing?
Mastery isn't needed very quickly unless you're lacking Acc or are using some Luk Equips. Booster's always nice to have, though. :D
Steal is still useless. Endure is hot.
The main thing to really ask yourself skill wise is--Do I want to go Haste first or SB first?
All I have to say is--if you're gonna CPQ, get Haste and spam whatever level of disorder you have as a support dit. I've won plenty of 2v2s and 3v3s that way.
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+Friend | 07/01/08
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BlooJayy
85 Broa Chief Bandit
 
Devlar said: "Luckless are weak"


You are weak.
M.S. Isn't about damage.

+Friend | edited: Jul 01 2008
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irKevy
71 Khaini Priest
 
Devlar said: "Luckless are weak"


Thanks for joining us Captain Obvious..

WOOT. Strategy > DMG!

I should make one, yeah. YEAH!.

+Friend | 07/01/08
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girixbandit0
34 Khaini Bandit
 
TiHsGyU said: "

WOOT. Strategy > DMG!

I should make one, yeah. YEAH!."



qft

+Friend | 07/01/08
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SiiverArrow7
102 Scania Ranger
 
Well more Dex = more accuracy right? xD

+Friend | edited: Jul 01 2008
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ChibaNinja
80 Broa Chief Bandit
 
TiHsGyU said: "

Thanks for joining us Captain Obvious..

WOOT. Strategy > DMG!

I should make one, yeah. YEAH!."


But a mix of Strategy + Power > Stategy alone > Power alone? So wouldn't a regular Bandit then be more beneficial since you can use any strategies a Lukless Bandit can plus have more power?

Also, isn't a strategy without enough power to execute it, just an idea, while a strategy that can be executed becomes an advantage? xD

+Friend | 07/01/08
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NoDiscipline
31 Mardia Assassin
 
This is the most screwed build ive ever seen. I never want to see this again -.-

+Friend | 07/01/08
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jespaillat92
78 Scania Crusader
 
he wants to be original =P

GOOO INBOMB GET TO 3RD JOB AND PWN WITH ASSAULTER =D

i will laugh hard if you do BOT build and ks ppl out of FOG XD
New Pic: my bro

+Friend | 07/01/08
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SmackYoUp
36 Scania Brawler
 
He would hit waay better with better gear also (more stabilization?) so dont go bash his `damage` like it totally fails.
He actually archieved something unlike you dexless sin scums.
Give him a break will ya?

+Friend | 07/01/08
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oHakumei
91 Broa Hermit
 
I saw you yesterday in FM :D


i give you kudos man. i would never be able to do that. -___-;

+Friend | 07/01/08
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jespaillat92
78 Scania Crusader
 
believe me if he had reall good items, zhelm/3/8 PAC/ 8dex shoes/10att gloves/att shield/20dex sauna, then his damage would be better then even that of a normal dex
New Pic: my bro

+Friend | 07/01/08
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UndieSword
36 Broa Fighter
 
isinxsasuke said: "This lukless thieves thread is very lame.
Who wants to waste their time doin this."


Says the lvl 71 hermit named xsasuke

+Friend | 07/01/08
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ChibaNinja
80 Broa Chief Bandit
 
deedeedee401 said: "believe me if he had reall good items, zhelm/3/8 PAC/ 8dex shoes/10att gloves/att shield/20dex sauna, then his damage would be better then even that of a normal dex"


Prove it? Do the calculations and post them. Prove that a Normal Dex Bandit of the same Lvl would be weak enough to actually get outdamaged by a Bandit with nearly 0 base primary stat. xD

+Friend | 07/01/08
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jespaillat92
78 Scania Crusader
 
im nto saying if the other normal dex dit had the same equips, i mean on average i see normal dex sins do more dmg then but with those equips i can see him catch up and maybe equal them
New Pic: my bro

+Friend | edited: Jul 01 2008
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ChibaNinja
80 Broa Chief Bandit
 
deedeedee401 said: "im nto saying if the other normal dex dit had the same equips, i mean on average i see normal dex sins do more dmg then but with those equips i can see him catch up and maybe equal them"


At Lvl 67, the TS has similar range to this Lvl 50 Str Bandit (TS has GM Bless though): link

So are you saying with those upgrades, the TS would overcome almost a 20 Lvl dif? xD

Edit: Don't forgot to subtract the GM Bless from the TS. xD

+Friend | 07/01/08
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Lukless sins = Punchers >:P
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