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+Friend | Jul 01 2008
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PyreSoulja
90 Windia F/P Mage
 
Sometimes I wonder why people say "R> Members for Party Quest, No F/P mages!" You know, it hurts. And sometimes when I'm in a Party quest, they'll say that I suck, or something like, "why did you choose f/p? i/l is waay better. I mean, yeah i/l can mob and freeze and are better to party with, but I just wish that they all how hard it is to make one and the effert used to continue them. Although us f/p mages solo a lot and will probably keep on soloing in our later lvs, maplers should be happy or excited to see a f/p and can't wait to invite one. In other words, I didn't stick with my F/P this whole time to be called a noob . . . F/P all the way ^.^ Oh, type what you feel about F/p mages
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ilyTiffany
97 Bera F/P Mage
 
What party quests are you talking about? FP's own I/L's at CPQ, and they're pretty much even at lmpq.


+Friend | 07/01/08
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PureLuckl3ss
37 Windia F/P Wizard
 

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imennighoni
156 Broa F/P Arch Mage
 
Those vids are completly biased,on topic, IMO, the reason why we "suck" for more people during 3rd job is because we textually consume the whole experience of most maps, even in party we get the majority of the exp with such a little effort, technically we use the other party members to do the annoying job of finishing off the monsters, instead of doing it ourselves, so they work hard while we are getting more experience than them with ease, and they know it, thats why we "suck" and thats why they wont party us.

the best you can do is to train with a priest. find your own way, it works perfectly and you dont need anything else.

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Gandalf021
60 Scania F/P Wizard
 
enrique said: "Those vids are completly biased,on topic, IMO, the reason why we "suck" for more people during 3rd job is because we textually consume the whole experience of most maps, even in party we get the majority of the exp with such a little effort, technically we use the other party members to do the annoying job of finishing off the monsters, instead of doing it ourselves, so they work hard while we are getting more experience than them with ease, and they know it, thats why we "suck" and thats why they wont party us.

the best you can do is to train with a priest. find your own way, it works perfectly and you dont need anything else."


The videos may be biased, I don't care, they show pros of what a F/P is, and that's what matters about it, and that's on of the reasons why we don't party in SQPT's.

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imennighoni
156 Broa F/P Arch Mage
 
gandalf0213 said: "

The videos may be biased, I don't care, they show pros of what a F/P is, and that's what matters about it, and that's on of the reasons why we don't party in SQPT's."


i saw one of those the other day, and i seriously stopped when the video was showing a RIDICULOUS comparision, on how superior was a f/p casting 3rd job skills against an i/l casting 2nd job skills, yea, completly fair if you ask to me, if you want the honest opinion of a F/P archmage : i/l are better!, but only during 4th job, still, i love being f/p and i wouldnt change for being i/l.

+Friend | 07/01/08
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fln1049
100 Broa F/P Mage
 
gandalf0213 said: "

The videos may be biased, I don't care, they show pros of what a F/P is, and that's what matters about it, and that's on of the reasons why we don't party in SQPT's."


Yeah they are biased.
Hey watch fln1049, level 54 fire poison wizard. NO LEVEL 54 I/L CAN DO THAT! (its FLN not f i n)

+Friend | edited: Jul 02 2008
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foolycooly13
71 Windia F/P Mage
 
enrique said: "

i saw one of those the other day, and i seriously stopped when the video was showing a RIDICULOUS comparision, on how superior was a f/p casting 3rd job skills against an i/l casting 2nd job skills, yea, completly fair if you ask to me, if you want the honest opinion of a F/P archmage : i/l are better!, but only during 4th job, still, i love being f/p and i wouldnt change for being i/l."


dude i dont understand your reasoning when u say i/l are better. I mean f/p's and I/L's are better in diffrent aspects in the game at each job! 2nd for f/p is soloing and bossin. where for I/L its mobbing and pqin(freeze). 3rd its mobbing and pqin for f/p!Where its soloing and bossing for 3rd job I/L!and 4th job f/p's and i/l's are almost exactly the same the only diffrences are these>>>>>>>>>>fire demon is 20+ then ice demon with same effects, Infrit hits 30+ then Elinquines with the same effects, and lastly paralyze hits 30+ comepared to chain lighting which would give f/p's 2 attacks that surpass I/L's out of 3 which would make us a huge and better advantage than I/L's making us BETTER but, chain lighting can hit 6 monsters IF THEY ARE NEXT TO EACHOTHER AND IN THE SAME LEVEL
AND ALSO PARALYZE CAN FREEZE THE MONSTER WHEN ATTACKING IT WHICH WOULD GIVE A VERY BIG ADVANTAGE WHEN FIGHTING EXTREMEMLY HIGH HP MONSTERSso i guess that would even us out almost completely seeing there is one adavntage for them and one for I/L's and 2 for f/p's on the last!Which would make f/p's better BUT chain lightings effect is so good it bassically even it all out!


PS: F/P's lvl much faster during lvl's 78-98 because of mist! ;) ;) ;) ;)

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imennighoni
156 Broa F/P Arch Mage
 
IMO, people who try to justify some kind of biased superiority are the ones who are not happy with their own choices, and its too late for them to restart or they dont want to.

In my case, im really comfortable with my decisions and the path im walking, so i can give an unbiased appreciation and say that during 4th job, i/l archmages have more advantages, even? lol . . . . nah.

@ trinity13, your points are wrong, do your homework first dude.

btw, dont spam my basil mail, i can clearly read what you have to say in this thread.

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foolycooly13
71 Windia F/P Mage
 
sorry dude about spamming your basil mail even though it was just one message, BUT ... "BIASED SUPERIORITY" you have to be joking I just gave a even assesment of both and gave the conclusion that they are about even in amost all the aspects of each job INCLUDING 4TH JOB mainly. Also biased is something u have been saying when u state that f/p's are better in the 2nd and 3rd jobs and say that at 4th job I'L's are better, know thats a bit biased to me.

Also the rreasoning ypu gave mme in the e-mail is horrible i suggest u look over your own reasoning like i had last stated instead of thinking im saying something such as f/p's are completely better and what not.

AND HOW ARE MY POINTS WRONG THEY ARE ALL LEGIT FACTS ABOUT ALL THE SKILLS A F/P AND I/L ARCHMAGE HAS

+Friend | 07/02/08
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archangel58
54 Aquila F/P Wizard
 
@trinity13
Well no one will chose mage for bossing ,I rather chose sin if I wan to boss.But of course I/L < F/P in bossing
And do you know chain lightning is the weakest skill for I/L .Every monster chain lightning hits the damage will go half so it is CLx6 - (180+90+45+22.5+11.25+5.5)
= 354.25 (AND EVEN LIGHTNING BOLT IS HIGHER DAMGE THEN CHAIN LIGHTNING ) <LOL> LIGHTNING BOLT x 6 =360
Fire Demon hits 6 and the damage maintain the same so it is 120 x 6 =720
The damage is almost DOUBLE,So Fire demon>CL and much more I/L skill.
My Opinion of freeze is SLOW + KB = 70% of freeze effect .Agree?

+Friend | 07/02/08
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foolycooly13
71 Windia F/P Mage
 
true true but your forgetting that at higher lvl such arch mages they can easily solo bosses them selfs especially if there soloing pap which weak to fire. lol and you should compare paralyze and cl instead of to chain lightning, but thats still a good point.

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imennighoni
156 Broa F/P Arch Mage
 
trinity13 said: "true true but your forgetting that at higher lvl such arch mages they can easily solo bosses them selfs especially if there soloing pap which weak to fire. lol and you should compare paralyze and cl instead of to chain lightning, but thats still a good point."


i stopped reading when you said that pap was weak to fire, seriously, do some research before even posting. if you didnt understand what i said to you, doesnt mean im wrong. perhaps you need to read more.

and you still keep PMing me, do you mind not doing that?

+Friend | 07/02/08
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Gandalf021
60 Scania F/P Wizard
 
enrique said: "

i saw one of those the other day, and i seriously stopped when the video was showing a RIDICULOUS comparision, on how superior was a f/p casting 3rd job skills against an i/l casting 2nd job skills, yea, completly fair if you ask to me, if you want the honest opinion of a F/P archmage : i/l are better!, but only during 4th job, still, i love being f/p and i wouldnt change for being i/l."


3rd job skills vs. 2nd job skills? Where?
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