DEXless/Low-DEX/Reg-DEX Brawler Comparison
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 Greetings Basil! This thread was up when we first got the Pirate section. For some unknown reason it was deleted. I know you have been waiting for more of my Infighter Storyline, but this is what I have been working on, as I think it is more important. Today we will be looking at the damage range differences between Dexless, Low Dex, and Regular Dex Infighters. I STRONGLY recommend you read every aspect and criteria of these calculations before making comments. Stuff People Already Know So as I have progressed in Maple, Ive noticed alot of people opting for pure stat characters. For those of you who dont know, pure stat means putting every single AP into your main stat, and keeping your secondary stat as low as possible. Examples: • Dexless Sins • Lukless Mages • Strless Bowman These kinds of characters take advantage of maple weapons, which have no stat requirements. This allows them to pump their main stat to its limits and bring with it major power increases. Pros: • Amazing Damage • Can scroll equips for main stat Cons: • Lower Def and M.Def • Limited Equips • Well-Scrolled Weapon can cost hundreds of millions Then there are those who try and wear their current level weapon and keep their secondary stat as low as possible. They use scrolled equips to keep their stat low and sill use the weapon Examples: • Low-Dex Sins • Low-Luk Mages • Low-Str Bowman Pros: • Can equip current level weapon, for better weapon attack Cons: • Have to scroll most of their equips for their secondary stat Finally, there are elite characters. They mix both of the play styles mentioned above. Using scrolled equips, they keep their secondary stat at its minimum and still manage to equip their current level weapon Examples: • Dexless-Rab Sins • Lukless-Evil Wings Mages Pros: • Extremely High Damage (usually) Cons: • Have to scroll ALL their equips for their secondary stat These characters have the highest damage possible. Not only do they have the maximum amount of points into their main stat, they get the advantage of using their current level weapon. The Point of This Thread We will be looking at three possible AP builds of Infighters (Dexless, Low-Dex, and Regular Dex) at three seperate levels (50, 100, 150). This will be the following criteria: Base Equips • 15 Str, 15 Dex Zhelm • 2 Str, 2 Dex Speigelmann Necklace • 10 Dex Earrings • 10 Dex Yellow Snowshoe • 15 Atk Stormcaster Gloves Dexless Equips • 25 Dex Sauna Robe • 3 Atk, 10 Dex Pink Adventurer's Cape Low-Dex / Regular Dex Equips • Current Level overall scrolled with and additonal 25 Str • 3 Atk, 10 Str Pink Adventurer's Cape Non-Equip Criteria: • Every character will be using their current level knuckle. The knuckle will be clean and of average stats • The Low-Dex character will have the absolute lowest base dex possible, while still being able to equip his current level knuckle. Even if he had a higher base dex in lower levels, we assume he reset it into Str. • The Low-Dex and Regular Dex characters will have the same "scrolling luck" as the Dexless character. To represent this, they have the same stat Pink Adenturer's Cape as the Dexless, but scrolled for Str instead. They also have an overall, equal to their level, scrolled for an additional 25 Str (since the Dexless uses a Sauna with 25 additional Dex) • The Regular Dex character will always have his base dex equal to his level, despite his dex equips • All characters are assumed to have rolled perfect stats. (4 Int and 4 Luk) • All damage calculations are comprised entirely on the characters stats and total weapon attack from equips alone. • Other effects such as warrior elixirs are not included Infighter Formulas Max- [(STR * 4.8 + DEX) / 100] * Weapon Attack Min-(STR * 0.9 * 4.8 * Skill Mastery + DEX) / 100 * Weapon Attack HUGE NOTICE! For the sake of easier calculations, I changed the 4.8 modifier to 5. This in NO WAY affects the outcome of the experiment and calculations, as each class is still using the exact same formula. (So basically, whoever was going to win with the 4.8 modifier, will still win with the 5) Level 50 Current Knuckle: 50 Atk Devil Claw Dexless Total Ability Points: 270 Stats: • Str: 242 • Dex: 20 • Int: 4 • Luk: 4 Stats After Equips: • Weapon Attack: 68 • Str: 259 • Dex: 92 • Int: 19 • Luk: 19 Minimum Damage: ((259*0.9*5*0.6+92) / 100) * 68 = 538.084 Maximum Damage: ((259*5*+92) / 100) * 68 = 943.16 Damage Range: 538 ~ 943 Low-Dex Current Overall: +29 Str Green Plaister Total Ability Points: 270 Stats: • Str: 242 • Dex: 20 • Int: 4 • Luk: 4 Stats After Equips: • Weapon Attack: 68 • Str: 298 • Dex: 57 • Int: 19 • Luk: 19 Minimum Damage: ((298*0.9*5*0.6+57) / 100) * 68 = 585.89 Maximum Damage: ((298*5*+57) / 100) * 68 = 1051.96 Damage Range: 586 ~ 1052 Regular Dex Current Overall: +29 Str Green Plaister Total Ability Points: 270 Stats: • Str: 212 • Dex: 50 • Int: 4 • Luk: 4 Stats After Equips: • Weapon Attack: 68 • Str: 268 • Dex: 87 • Int: 19 • Luk: 19 Minimum Damage: ((268*0.9*5*0.6+87) / 100) * 68 = 551.21 Maximum Damage: ((268*5*+87) / 100) * 68 = 970.36 Damage Range: 551 ~ 970 Notes On This Level: As you can see (and as was expected) low-dex wins at this level. Of course, we all know that the Dexless Infighter doesn't need his Sauna at this level to equip his knuckle, and could use a Str scrolled overall like the low-dex. But for the sake of a constant, equips are the same throughout for Dexless Level 100 Current Knuckle: 74 Atk King Sent Dexless Total Ability Points: 520 Stats: • Str: 492 • Dex: 20 • Int: 4 • Luk: 4 Stats After Equips: • Weapon Attack: 92 • Str: 509 • Dex: 92 • Int: 19 • Luk: 19 Minimum Damage: ((509*0.9*5*0.6+92) / 100) * 92 = 1348.99 Maximum Damage: ((509*5*+92) / 100) * 92 = 2426.04 Damage Range: 1349 ~ 2426 Low-Dex Current Overall: +3 Dex, +32 Str Red Duke Total Ability Points: 520 Stats: • Str: 452 • Dex: 60 • Int: 4 • Luk: 4 Stats After Equips: • Weapon Attack: 68 • Str: 511 • Dex: 100 • Int: 19 • Luk: 19 Minimum Damage: ((511*0.9*5*0.6+100) / 100) * 92 = 1361.32 Maximum Damage: ((511*5*+100) / 100) * 92 = 2442.6 Damage Range: 1361 ~ 2443 Regular Dex Current Overall: +3 Dex, +32 Str Green Plaister Total Ability Points: 520 Stats: • Str: 412 • Dex: 100 • Int: 4 • Luk: 4 Stats After Equips: • Weapon Attack: 92 • Str: 471 • Dex: 140 • Int: 19 • Luk: 19 Minimum Damage: ((471*0.9*5*0.6+140) / 100) * 92 = 1298.76 Maximum Damage: ((471*5*+140) / 100) * 92 = 2295.4 Damage Range: 1299 ~ 2295 Notes On This Level: Dexless starts to catch up to Low-Dex at this level, since the Low-Dex had to add to his base Dex. And the Regular Dex just keeps falling behind... Level 150 Current Knuckle: 78 Atk Dragon Claw Upgraded Necklace: 22 Str, 22 Dex Horntail Necklace Dexless Total Ability Points: 770 Stats: • Str: 742 • Dex: 20 • Int: 4 • Luk: 4 Stats After Equips: • Weapon Attack: 96 • Str: 779 • Dex: 112 • Int: 41 • Luk: 41 Minimum Damage: ((779*0.9*5*0.6+112) / 100) * 96 = 2126.69 Maximum Damage: ((509*5*+112) / 100) * 96 = 3846.72 Damage Range: 2127 ~ 3847 Low-Dex Current Overall: +6 Dex, +32 Str Canopus Suit Total Ability Points: 770 Stats: • Str: 717 • Dex: 45 • Int: 4 • Luk: 4 Stats After Equips: • Weapon Attack: 96 • Str: 796 • Dex: 110 (108 without Maple Warrior, explained later) • Int: 41 • Luk: 41 Minimum Damage: ((796*0.9*5*0.6+110) / 100) * 96 = 2168.83 Maximum Damage: ((796*5*+110) / 100) * 96 = 3926.4 Damage Range: 2169 ~ 3926 Regular Dex Current Overall: +3 Dex, +32 Str Green Plaister Total Ability Points: 770 Stats: • Str: 652 • Dex: 110 • Int: 4 • Luk: 4 Stats After Equips: • Weapon Attack: 92 • Str: 731 • Dex: 173 • Int: 41 • Luk: 41 Minimum Damage: ((731*0.9*5*0.6+173) / 100) * 96 = 2060 Maximum Damage: ((731*5*+173) / 100) * 96 = 3674.88 Damage Range: 2060 ~ 3675 Notes On This Level: ~Under Construction~ Most Low-Stat characters make sure that their secondary stat is so low, that even after all their equips they need Maple Warrior to equip their weapon. Its reflected in these statistics. Maple Warrior As all 4th job characters know, Maple Warrior can have great effects on damage. The following data assumes each character has level 10 Maple Warrior: Dexless Stats After Maple Warrior: • Weapon Attack: 96 • Str: 816 • Dex: 113 • Int: 41 • Luk: 41 Minimum Damage: ((816*0.9*5*0.6+113) / 100) * 96 = 2223.55 Maximum Damage: ((816*5*+113) / 100) * 96 = 3936.96 Damage Range: 2224 ~ 3937 Low-Dex Stats After Maple Warrior: • Weapon Attack: 96 • Str: 831 • Dex: 110 • Int: 41 • Luk: 41 Minimum Damage: ((831*0.9*5*0.6+110) / 100) * 96 = 2259.55 Maximum Damage: ((831*5*+110) / 100) * 96 = 4094.4 Damage Range: 2260 ~ 4095 Regular Dex Current Overall: +3 Dex, +32 Str Green Plaister Stats After Maple Warrior: • Weapon Attack: 92 • Str: 763 • Dex: 179 • Int: 41 • Luk: 41 Minimum Damage: ((763*0.9*5*0.6+179) / 100) * 96 = 2149.54 Maximum Damage: ((763*5*+179) / 100) * 96 = 3834.24 Damage Range: 2150 ~ 3834 Notes On This Level: So I guess with these equips, Low-Dex will win in the end, due to the scrolled overall for Strength. Remember that these scrolls are still rare, and a level 100 and 110 will probably be hard to get ahold of. Also remember, the Dexless only has to upgrade it's knuckle each level. The Regular and Low-Dex need to rescroll their new overalls for a least 25 Strength to keep their advantage. And In A Perfect World... Level 150 Equips • 15 Str, 25 Dex Zhelm • 22 Str, 22 Dex Horntail Necklace • 15 Dex Earrings • 3 Atk, 10 Dex Pink Adventurer's Cape • +3 Dex, +32 Str Green Plaister • 15 Dex Yellow Snowshoe • 15 Atk Stormcaster Gloves Dexless Total Ability Points: 770 Stats: • Str: 742 • Dex: 20 • Int: 4 • Luk: 4 Stats After Equips: • Weapon Attack: 96 • Str: 811 • Dex: 110 • Int: 41 • Luk: 41 Stats After Maple Warrior and Equips: • Weapon Attack: 96 • Str: 878 • Dex: 111 • Int: 41 • Luk: 41 Minimum Damage: ((878*0.9*5*0.6+111) / 100) * 96 = 2286.336 Maximum Damage: ((878*5*+111) / 100) * 96 = 4320.96 Damage Range: 2286 ~ 4321 BOTTOM LINE! Low-Dex, due to new Overall Str scrolls, WILL out power Dexless. But as I said, it'll be much more expensive to maintain than a Dexless. Unless that Dexless is AMAZINGLY funded and does the build "In a Perfect World" Credits CREDITS GO TO DAEMARIUS FOR WRITING THE GUIDE AND PIRATESAGE FOR FINDING THE GUIDE FOR US! New Video: Lv 160 Viper
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For level 100, to equips a King Cent you need 100 dex, but it shows the level 100 dexless with only 92dex.
How'd your stats jump from 45 to 110? Was there a change in equips?
im srry this makes no sense. Dexlesss and low dex will pretty much be better than reg dex was all u had to say....
uhmm dude ur saying a low dex is automatically gona get a overall with str O.o if a dexless and a lowdex have the same equips AND WEAPON ON of course the dexless is gona win
NinjaSinDX: uhmm dude ur saying a low dex is automatically gona get a overall with str O.o if a dexless and a lowdex have the same equips AND WEAPON ON of course the dexless is gona win lol exactly a dexless can only wear maple weapons cuz thats dexless have no stats added to dex but low dex can wear high lvl knuckles cuz they can wear dex equips to put on that knuckle Hard to understand 0.o
What would I be? I have a base dex of 20 but am currently using a White Fangz soon to be using a King Cent.
Err... Why is the dexless using a dex overall while the low-dex uses a strength overall? Shouldn't they be the other way around?
What the hell? The low-dex build shows the DEX before equips as this:
Level 50 = 20 DEX Level 100 = 60 DEX Level 150 = 45 DEX How the hell did you lose 15 DEX from Level 100 to 150? CyberVenom: What the hell? The low-dex build shows the DEX before equips as this: Level 50 = 20 DEX Level 100 = 60 DEX Level 150 = 45 DEX How the hell did you lose 15 DEX from Level 100 to 150? ShiKage08: • The Low-Dex character will have the absolute lowest base dex possible, while still being able to equip his current level knuckle. Even if he had a higher base dex in lower levels, we assume he reset it into Str. ty for comparison
this guide makes no sense. it sucks so much:
dexless doesnt use dex equips, thats y they're called DEXLESS dexless would use str equips low-dex would use dex equips to still be able 2 use their current lvl knuckle. So, If I make a brawler with my current equips (My equips will total up to 90 DEX exactly at level 50, Planning to be a King Cent user, not done scrolling) and I start using a White Fangz, I should basically be stronger than a Low-Dex.
xAnthonyLeong: lol exactly a dexless can only wear maple weapons cuz thats dexless have no stats added to dex but low dex can wear high lvl knuckles cuz they can wear dex equips to put on that knuckle fail, im dexless using a king cent, id like to know ur reasoning to why a low dex can wear dex equips and a dexless cannot? this guide would make sense if his math was correct the dex before equips and after equips is wrong. he says low-Dex Current Overall: +6 Dex, +32 Str Canopus Suit Total Ability Points: 770 Stats: • Str: 717 • Dex: 45 • Int: 4 • Luk: 4 Stats After Equips: • Weapon Attack: 96 • Str: 796 • Dex: 110 (108 without Maple Warrior, explained later) • Int: 41 • Luk: 41 equip stats Base Equips • 15 Str, 15 Dex Zhelm • 2 Str, 2 Dex Speigelmann Necklace • 10 Dex Earrings • 10 Dex Yellow Snowshoe • 15 Atk Stormcaster Gloves Low-Dex / Regular Dex Equips • Current Level overall scrolled with and additonal 25 Str • 3 Atk, 10 Str Pink Adventurer's Cape so with the base dex given and equipment dex 45+37= 82 Canopus Suit requires 110 dex as well as the dragon claw so without mw ur missing 26 dex 26 points from str to dex is = about -5 weapon atk and i think i would consider a +32 str overall as "in a perfect world" considering its 5 30%'s or 12 60%'s so knock some weapon atk off that. so if you wanna redo that math 2127 ~ 3847 for dexless 2169 ~ 3926 for low dex im sure just with the dex mistake already, the dexless wins id redo the math for you guys, but im lazy i guess Page: 1 | 2
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