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what happens when i get 1 attack speed inner

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mikeyp Level 60 Scania Hermit
I have legendary inner as a db, but i'm aiming for 50% buff duration of course. What happens when/ if i do roll +1 attack speed? Should i switch to shad or nl? i enjoy all 3 branches.
And if i do roll 50% buff duration, does it benefit nl or shad at all?
Posted: July 2015 Permalink

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pascalio95 Level 202 Windia Blade Master
I think its useful on dbs? Because booster + mpe green doesn't cap.
Jul 22 2015
e1994010 Level 183 Scania Phantom 4
With +1 atk spd you get to save 6b(no need for DSI) but then you spend more for it probably and about buff duration DBs will be getting no cd FC soon for free.
Jul 22 2015
cuddymd Level 214 Khaini Night Lord Emcy Guild
when you get atk speed +1 IA as an NL you beat the game.
Jul 22 2015
mikeyp Level 60 Scania Hermit
With +1 atk spd you get to save 6b(no need for DSI) but then you spend more for it probably and about buff duration DBs will be getting no cd FC soon for free.[/quote]

no CD FC? how does that work? And also, i'm using SW dagger for the moment, so i'm already at cap speed. I can switch to fafnir in the future, but atm, sw is more cost-efficient.
Jul 22 2015
iEvanMaster Level 210 Khaini Xenon 4
no CD FC? how does that work? And also, i'm using SW dagger for the moment, so i'm already at cap speed. I can switch to fafnir in the future, but atm, sw is more cost-efficient.[/quote]

If you're using a SW, then +1 Speed IA is useless for you. You're at the soft speed cap of (2) with just booster, and when using a green MPE pot, you're at the hard speed cap of (0) and literally cannot go any faster.

All DBs will get permanent Final Cut* after the Reboot Patch, so either 20% boss damage or 30% crit rate should be what you're looking for.

*They will be buffing Sudden Raid, using it will speed up the cooldown timer for Final Cut, so every DB will have 100% uptime on Final Cut without needing to use a IA slot on %Buff Duration.
Jul 22 2015
mikeyp Level 60 Scania Hermit
If you're using a SW, then +1 Speed IA is useless for you. You're at the soft speed cap of (2) with just booster, and when using a green MPE pot, you're at the hard speed cap of (0) and literally cannot go any faster.

All DBs will get permanent Final Cut* after the Reboot Patch, so either 20% boss damage or 30% crit rate should be what you're looking for.

*They will be buffing Sudden Raid, using it will speed up the cooldown timer for Final Cut, so every DB will have 100% uptime on Final Cut without needing to use a IA slot on %Buff Duration.[/quote]

To be fair, 20% boss is not worth wasting tons of NX over because it doesn't improve db's dmg that much. And 30% crit rate is useless bc an attacked image target also gives you 7 seconds of 100% crit. The only way crit would be useful is if you and your image is not attacked every 7 seconds.
Jul 22 2015
Klytta Level 215 Bera Blade Master AUniversityO Guild
Still want buff duration for DB with %Crit as a second choice. %buff is simply useful regardless of the class you play. As for DBs getting a CD reduction by using the skill sudden raid, this doesn't mean you don't want buff duration. Plus it will take 4-5 casts of sudden raid if you have no buff duration. (If my memory serves me right.) +1 AS IA is very rare. %buff duration is far less rare because it has multiple possible line values. Such as 50% 49% 48% and so on. So I'm willing to bet you get % buff before +1AS IA. But you never know.
Jul 22 2015
xvietboixazn Level 196 Bera Aran 4
DB don't get permanent FC after reboot.. it just changes so you don't have to full charge for the damage..
Jul 23 2015
iEvanMaster Level 210 Khaini Xenon 4
@mikeyp:

Out of all the lines of IA, those two are the best. Before REBOOT was announced, %Buff Duration was the go to IA for DBs, no questions asked, but it's pretty much pointless now that everybody can have permanent Final Cut for free.

**%Boss:**Damage is still damage. With the standard 250% boss, you'll still gain an overall increase of 5% to your damage by adding 20%.

**%Crit** Sometimes its not feasible to always use Mirrored Target, some examples are in dojo, CVellum, Hard Magnus and Hellux Gem/Eyes, and Chaos Von Bon and Chaos Pierre.

The next best line is 30 atk, which is way worse than 20% boss since it doesn't stack with % Atk. After that there's nothing left, lol. Next best after that is static Stat increase, which also doesn't stack with %stat.

Proof As you can see, first off, he uses Final Cut at around 0:21, and all he had to do was cast Sudden Raid twice and Final Cut was able to be casted again at 1:24, which is 63 seconds. The extra three seconds is just server lag, and seeing as how this DB had no %buff duration (if he had any at all, it was some minuscule amount like 1-5%), during that test,all you have to get is a level 100 Mechanic character card (15% buff duration), and you'd be able to cast Final Cut before it starts blinking.
Jul 23 2015
mikeyp Level 60 Scania Hermit
@mikeyp:

Out of all the lines of IA, those two are the best. Before REBOOT was announced, %Buff Duration was the go to IA for DBs, no questions asked, but it's pretty much pointless now that everybody can have permanent Final Cut for free.

**%Boss:**Damage is still damage. With the standard 250% boss, you'll still gain an overall increase of 5% to your damage by adding 20%.

**%Crit** Sometimes its not feasible to always use Mirrored Target, some examples are in dojo, CVellum, Hard Magnus and Hellux Gem/Eyes, and Chaos Von Bon and Chaos Pierre.

The next best line is 30 atk, which is way worse than 20% boss since it doesn't stack with % Atk. After that there's nothing left, lol. Next best after that is static Stat increase, which also doesn't stack with %stat.

Proof As you can see, first off, he uses Final Cut at around 0:21, and all he had to do was cast Sudden Raid twice and Final Cut was able to be casted again at 1:24, which is 63 seconds. The extra three seconds is just server lag, and seeing as how this DB had no %buff duration (if he had any at all, it was some minuscule amount like 1-5%), during that test,all you have to get is a level 100 Mechanic character card (15% buff duration), and you'd be able to cast Final Cut before it starts blinking.[/quote]

Oh i see. Personally, i don't think it's worth spending more than 30k nx for either %boss or any other lines. The only line i'd consider is crit and buff duration (even with the revamp, sometimes we might forget sudden raid)
Jul 23 2015

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