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[quote=loxiona]@zerobydivide I agree with most of what you said. Many of the top ranked players did use this method, but a large number of other players took advantage of it as well over a fairly long time span (3 months?). Rolling back would have been ridiculous and banning people would be unreasonable. I believe nexon did the right thing to just patch it without punishing the people who used it. They ultimately would be punishing a large percentage of the maple community if they did take action. However, even though they didn't ban anyone for it, I wouldn't say nexon necessarily approved of the method. ( imo they couldn't easily stop or inhibit the use of the exploit)

@sparkshooter I dont have any interest in arguing about your 'popular' Ideas of what nexon is known or not known to do. Many of them you have stated I disagree with. You are also missing the point when i said people exploited the party play exploit as much as inmatesearch. I mean, people often used multiple characters and accounts for this exploit so measuring the extent they exploited it soley by levels or anything similar is not reasonable.[/quote]
I was only arguing because that guy was biased, and treated lnmateSearch like some undeserving top ranker. So I wanted each person to be equal defended/represented.
I might not necessarily agree with half of the things I said, but I don't think we should be the judge of whether that "exploit" should be considered legit or not. People should just acknowledge that he won the race, and no less.

@GameAddict209: Yeah I actually play at a pretty high level of hockey.

[quote=ZeroByDivide]Wow, such intense debate. Guess I'll leave my opinion here then.

Honestly, I wish the Inmate Method had been patched the moment Nexon found out about it. I would have liked the race to 250 to have been extended for at least another year, but hey, it is what it is. I'm not saying that using the Inmate Method was legit or illegit, that's completely opinion-based. It's true, majority of the top ranked players did use this method, it just so happened that both myself and InmateSearch were on vacation at the time, so we were able to take advantage of it the most. In the end, what's done is done, you can't change the past, unless for some reason Nexon decides to rollback the server 3 months. [/quote]

Well put.
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@zerobydivide I agree with most of what you said. Many of the top ranked players did use this method, but a large number of other players took advantage of it as well over a fairly long time span (3 months?). Rolling back would have been ridiculous and banning people would be unreasonable. I believe nexon did the right thing to just patch it without punishing the people who used it. They ultimately would be punishing a large percentage of the maple community if they did take action. However, even though they didn't ban anyone for it, I wouldn't say nexon necessarily approved of the method. ( imo they couldn't easily stop or inhibit the use of the exploit)

@sparkshooter I dont have any interest in arguing about your 'popular' Ideas of what nexon is known or not known to do. Many of them you have stated I disagree with. You are also missing the point when i said people exploited the party play exploit as much as inmatesearch. I mean, people often used multiple characters and accounts for this exploit so measuring the extent they exploited it soley by levels or anything similar is not reasonable.

[quote=dillbert]That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard that's like saying if you can't come first in a race might as well give up and not get silver.[/quote]

you ever compete?

Wow, such intense debate. Guess I'll leave my opinion here then.

Honestly, I wish the Inmate Method had been patched the moment Nexon found out about it. I would have liked the race to 250 to have been extended for at least another year, but hey, it is what it is. I'm not saying that using the Inmate Method was legit or illegit, that's completely opinion-based. It's true, majority of the top ranked players did use this method, it just so happened that both myself and InmateSearch were on vacation at the time, so we were able to take advantage of it the most. In the end, what's done is done, you can't change the past, unless for some reason Nexon decides to rollback the server 3 months.

@loxiona:
"Just as much as he did?" I doubt it, or else there'd be a ton of lvl 250's out there. And since when did Nexon give equal treatment to players.
Pardon me, but it seem pretty out of character for Nexon to have the mindset of "Oh, since we can't locate other infractioners, we'll just leave this player be and let him free."

[quote=sparkshooter]Nexon is very well known for being lazy banners, but when/if they do find a player, they're notoriously known for being unusually harsh.
There's no way that Nexon was turning a complete blind eye to the #1 ranking player in all of GMS. They're not that big of morons.[/quote]

What makes you think they'd single him out among all the other people who exploited it? He may have leveled the fastest, but there were many other people who exploited just as much as he did. If nexon was going to just ban people, they would have to go after everyone who exploited it. Nexon obviously can't do that due to how many people did it, so they're left with just fixing it.

@Omniscient1:
I don't look up to him at all. I just feel that he deserves equal representation, is all.
I'm not making excuses. I'm just saying that your "evidence" and "reasons" are vague.
I've never heard of this "leniency" that you're accusing Nexon of doing. Yes, Nexon misses a lot of the nx sellers/buyer and haxers, but if they encounter them, they never show any mercy. If they happen to bump into someone with a controversial ign, they never hesitate to do anything. I've never heard of Nexon "letting go" a player when they find them doing something wrong.
Nexon hasn't made a public statement on this situation, and I'm sure they were aware of it at the time. They never said that the exploit was ban-worthy, or that it should be avoided. They simply patched it up. It's innocent until proven guilty.

@sparkshooter: They know people are selling nx all the time in this game. Stop making up excuses lol. I understand this guy is someone you look up to and highly of. It's fine that you want to try defend him. Though just understand that you don't necessarily need to be banned to break the rules. I can guarentee that there are times that Nexon knows of something but doesn't do anything about it until they actually think they need to do something. Example is dc hacks. Those were not patch for years and Nexon kept making up excuses to not patch it up. Finally they patch it up. There are tons more things that goes on in this game that Nexon knows of and doesn't ban them for. Not all people who break the rules get banned. Most of the time it's because Nexon doesn't feel it was a big enough deal to ban them for it. They let them go with a warning and fix the exploit/hack up.

@Omniscient1:
The fact is that they absolutely know that he abused the 'exploit.' There is no way that they don't know his method, it's just not possible. They knew, and they decided not to do anything. The reason that Nexon didn't ban those 'other people' is because they didn't know exactly who did what.

@sparkshooter: Sigh no use arguing with you. What inmate did was against the rules. It's common sense that it was against the rules. Nexon doesn't need to ban someone for it to be against the rules. As I already stated and the other person. There have been plenty of times Nexon didn't ban anyone but they still broke the rules. Having a bad name in game makes you illegit. You hardly see people get banned for that. Nexon patch the exploit up which automatically makes it an exploit that was abused.

@loxiona:
Nexon is very well known for being lazy banners, but when/if they do find a player, they're notoriously known for being unusually harsh.
There's no way that Nexon was turning a complete blind eye to the #1 ranking player in all of GMS. They're not that big of morons.

@Omniscient1:
No, it does not mean that are legit (at least some of them), it just means they were given a second chance.
But people do get banned occasionally for selling/buying nx/mesos. It's just not as easy to detect.
I don't see why we're bringing up irrelevant topics/situations.

Nexon turns a blind eye only because they are lazy to do hard work investigating. But there is absolutely no way that they didn't look at lnmateSearch. After all, they banned the ex-#2 player curryishott for doing some side-hacking AFTER getting to lvl 200. If they were going to enforce rules to a high-ranking player that wasn't leveling, they'd obviously puninsh a high-ranking player who was exploiting leveling.

@sparkshooter: There was a dupe a few months ago that no one got banned in fact there was no roll back either. The people who exploited the dupe actually compensated for there efforts. Does that mean those people are legit? Since Nexon didn't patch it right away nor banned them? Tons of things that were against the rules in this game and no consequences had happen to them. Nexon just turned a blind eye. It doesn't mean they were legit because Nexon decided not to ban them. Do the hackers that got unbanned recently in the second chance make them legit now? Since they were given a second chance does that mean they are not illegit anymore? Another thing are nx sellers and mesos buyers. Most of those people do not get banned and are breaking the rules. Since they don't get banned does that make them legit?

[quote=sparkshooter]If it was such a big deal then Nexon would've banned people for it, wouldn't they? But they didn't. So if Nexon says it's ok, then it's legitimate.[/quote]
This is not true. Nexon often fixes big problems by patching and that doesn't require them to ban anyone at all. Sometimes patching is all they can do, and this is one of those cases. Way too many people exploited it for them to start outright banning people. It was also too easy for players to do and hard to detect, since the parties looked like ordinary hoh parties.

Their actions of not banning people does not mean it is legitimate in any way, or that they endorsed or approved the use of it.

@Omniscient1:
Or maybe it was meant to be that way, but Nexon underestimated its effectiveness. If it was such a big deal then Nexon would've banned people for it, wouldn't they? But they didn't. So if Nexon says it's ok, then it's legitimate.

@sparkshooter: You don't understand it. The fact it was patch means it was not meant to be. Does that mean all the hacks right now that are not patched in the game. Means that those hacks are meant to be? Party play was never meant to be solo leech play. That's not what party play is about. Party play was meant to be for training for the full party. if that isn't common sense then idk what to tell you. Nexon patch because that wasn't the way it was suppose to be and many people abused it.

@loxiona:
Yeah, but we go off what evidence we have, just like any case in justice/court.
Nexon made the game, so it's their rules.

[quote=sparkshooter]The very fact that Nexon didn't ban lnmateSearch means that they acknowledged him as the first legitimate lvl 250 player. After all, innocent until proven guilty.[/quote]

Nexon might acknoledge InmateSearch as the #1 ranked player, but it ultimately doesn't mean anything about their legitimacy (which is subjective as it is). Hypothetically if a person who got to 250 used hacks, and Nexon couldn't find any proof he did hack, it doesn't mean the hacker is legit or that Nexon approves of their leveling methods.

[quote=Omniscient1]@stevenman76: I am illegit. Never did I say i was illegit nor do I say I have a problem with people being illegit. Only time I have a problem is if there hackers dcing hacking or making the game unenjoyable for others. This is an exploit and nothing wrong with it. Just pointing out the fact he is illegit and technically isn't the first 250. The first 250 goes to KMS since they did it legitly. Doesn't matter how long it taken. If you want to go down to technicalties then yes he is illegit. Just like majority if not everyone that plays this game are illegit.

@Redefined
Nexon never stated it was meant to be. The ticket that someone posted stated that they believe that since there has been no notice about it. That they are okay with it as of right now. Just because they allowed it before doesn't mean he didn't exploit a glitch in the game. PG hacks were available for a long ass time. The familer hack was available for a month. Just because Nexon didn't patch it up that second doesn't mean they were legit doing so. The fact that Nexon patch the exploit up. Means what he done was illegit. Meaning it wasn't intended to be. Nexon purposly allowed it so they can be the first one to say that GMS got first 250. That is why it was patch asap after he hit 250. Stop trying make excuses for him. He broke the rules even being ignorant about them. He still broke the rules.

@sparkshooter
Sure he can have his glory but that doesn't take away the fact that him being the first lvl 250 was tainted by an exploit. Regardless if he was ignorant of it. It was patch shortly after. Meaning it was never meant to be. Party play is suppose to be party play. The whole party is suppose to be training and receiving all xp. Not just one solo person leeching it all from the party members. Going with technicalities GMS wasn't the first 250 since the first 250 broke the rules. Now going by your own definition of what's legit or not legit then maybe he is the first 250. Everyone has there own definition of what's legit and what's not legit. As explained earlier some people think selling nx is legit. Since a lot of people do it and haven't been caught yet. Some people think buying dupe gear makes you still legit since you didn't dupe yourself. It's all about what your definition of legit is.

If you all want to call me a hater or someone that's jealous or whatever. Then go right ahead. Don't see how I am being either of those since I am just stating facts but if that's what you wish. Then fine by me. My points weren't meant to attack lnmateSearch in anyway. I don't see why it's a big deal to be illegit in this game. There different degrees of being illegit. Some are worse than others. Everyone is illegit in this game some way or form. That includes me too.[/quote]
You're taking everything at face value. Just because it was patched, doesn't mean it "wasn't meant to be." It just means that Nexon realized that it was too big of an advantage. If it was truly an exploit, then lnmateSearch would've easily been banned right on the spot for obvious exploitation. Look at what happened to curryishott. If you're going to go with your blind logic, then so will I. The very fact that Nexon didn't ban lnmateSearch means that they acknowledged him as the first legitimate lvl 250 player. After all, innocent until proven guilty.

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ]My reaction.[/url]

[quote=Omniscient1]@stevenman76: I am illegit. Never did I say i was illegit nor do I say I have a problem with people being illegit. Only time I have a problem is if there hackers dcing hacking or making the game unenjoyable for others. This is an exploit and nothing wrong with it. Just pointing out the fact he is illegit and technically isn't the first 250. The first 250 goes to KMS since they did it legitly. Doesn't matter how long it taken. If you want to go down to technicalties then yes he is illegit. Just like majority if not everyone that plays this game are illegit.

@Redefined
Nexon never stated it was meant to be. The ticket that someone posted stated that they believe that since there has been no notice about it. That they are okay with it as of right now. Just because they allowed it before doesn't mean he didn't exploit a glitch in the game. PG hacks were available for a long ass time. The familer hack was available for a month. Just because Nexon didn't patch it up that second doesn't mean they were legit doing so. The fact that Nexon patch the exploit up. Means what he done was illegit. Meaning it wasn't intended to be. Nexon purposly allowed it so they can be the first one to say that GMS got first 250. That is why it was patch asap after he hit 250. Stop trying make excuses for him. He broke the rules even being ignorant about them. He still broke the rules.

@sparkshooter
Sure he can have his glory but that doesn't take away the fact that him being the first lvl 250 was tainted by an exploit. Regardless if he was ignorant of it. It was patch shortly after. Meaning it was never meant to be. Party play is suppose to be party play. The whole party is suppose to be training and receiving all xp. Not just one solo person leeching it all from the party members. Going with technicalities GMS wasn't the first 250 since the first 250 broke the rules. Now going by your own definition of what's legit or not legit then maybe he is the first 250. Everyone has there own definition of what's legit and what's not legit. As explained earlier some people think selling nx is legit. Since a lot of people do it and haven't been caught yet. Some people think buying dupe gear makes you still legit since you didn't dupe yourself. It's all about what your definition of legit is.

If you all want to call me a hater or someone that's jealous or whatever. Then go right ahead. Don't see how I am being either of those since I am just stating facts but if that's what you wish. Then fine by me. My points weren't meant to attack lnmateSearch in anyway. I don't see why it's a big deal to be illegit in this game. There different degrees of being illegit. Some are worse than others. Everyone is illegit in this game some way or form. That includes me too.[/quote]

what are you talking about KMS used the same glitch, they didnt have kanna which is why it we did it faster.

[quote=13e4n3r]there's first place and then there's the rest lol.

if you're not first you're last[/quote]

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard that's like saying if you can't come first in a race might as well give up and not get silver.

[quote=Omniscient1]@stevenman76: I am illegit. Never did I say i was illegit nor do I say I have a problem with people being illegit. Only time I have a problem is if there hackers dcing hacking or making the game unenjoyable for others. This is an exploit and nothing wrong with it. Just pointing out the fact he is illegit and technically isn't the first 250. The first 250 goes to KMS since they did it legitly. Doesn't matter how long it taken. If you want to go down to technicalties then yes he is illegit. Just like majority if not everyone that plays this game are illegit.

@Redefined
Nexon never stated it was meant to be. The ticket that someone posted stated that they believe that since there has been no notice about it. That they are okay with it as of right now. Just because they allowed it before doesn't mean he didn't exploit a glitch in the game. PG hacks were available for a long ass time. The familer hack was available for a month. Just because Nexon didn't patch it up that second doesn't mean they were legit doing so. The fact that Nexon patch the exploit up. Means what he done was illegit. Meaning it wasn't intended to be. Nexon purposly allowed it so they can be the first one to say that GMS got first 250. That is why it was patch asap after he hit 250. Stop trying make excuses for him. He broke the rules even being ignorant about them. He still broke the rules.

@sparkshooter
Sure he can have his glory but that doesn't take away the fact that him being the first lvl 250 was tainted by an exploit. Regardless if he was ignorant of it. It was patch shortly after. Meaning it was never meant to be. Party play is suppose to be party play. The whole party is suppose to be training and receiving all xp. Not just one solo person leeching it all from the party members. Going with technicalities GMS wasn't the first 250 since the first 250 broke the rules. Now going by your own definiton of what's legit or not legit then maybe he is the first 250. Everyone has there own definiton of what's legit and what's not legit. As explained earlier some people think selling nx is legit. Since a lot of people do it and haven't been caught yet. Some people think buying dupe gear makes you still legit since you didn't dupe yourself. It's all about what your definition of legit is.[/quote]

Don't even bother arguing with the apologists, Inmate exploited his way directly to 250, where as Zero actually had to do manual work for his 250.

@stevenman76: I am illegit. Never did I say i was illegit nor do I say I have a problem with people being illegit. Only time I have a problem is if there hackers dcing hacking or making the game unenjoyable for others. This is an exploit and nothing wrong with it. Just pointing out the fact he is illegit and technically isn't the first 250. The first 250 goes to KMS since they did it legitly. Doesn't matter how long it taken. If you want to go down to technicalties then yes he is illegit. Just like majority if not everyone that plays this game are illegit.

@Redefined
Nexon never stated it was meant to be. The ticket that someone posted stated that they believe that since there has been no notice about it. That they are okay with it as of right now. Just because they allowed it before doesn't mean he didn't exploit a glitch in the game. PG hacks were available for a long ass time. The familer hack was available for a month. Just because Nexon didn't patch it up that second doesn't mean they were legit doing so. The fact that Nexon patch the exploit up. Means what he done was illegit. Meaning it wasn't intended to be. Nexon purposly allowed it so they can be the first one to say that GMS got first 250. That is why it was patch asap after he hit 250. Stop trying make excuses for him. He broke the rules even being ignorant about them. He still broke the rules.

@sparkshooter
Sure he can have his glory but that doesn't take away the fact that him being the first lvl 250 was tainted by an exploit. Regardless if he was ignorant of it. It was patch shortly after. Meaning it was never meant to be. Party play is suppose to be party play. The whole party is suppose to be training and receiving all xp. Not just one solo person leeching it all from the party members. Going with technicalities GMS wasn't the first 250 since the first 250 broke the rules. Now going by your own definition of what's legit or not legit then maybe he is the first 250. Everyone has there own definition of what's legit and what's not legit. As explained earlier some people think selling nx is legit. Since a lot of people do it and haven't been caught yet. Some people think buying dupe gear makes you still legit since you didn't dupe yourself. It's all about what your definition of legit is.

If you all want to call me a hater or someone that's jealous or whatever. Then go right ahead. Don't see how I am being either of those since I am just stating facts but if that's what you wish. Then fine by me. My points weren't meant to attack lnmateSearch in anyway. I don't see why it's a big deal to be illegit in this game. There different degrees of being illegit. Some are worse than others. Everyone is illegit in this game some way or form. That includes me too.

[quote=Sanic]Give it a year 250 will become as meaningless as 200 is now.[/quote]

250 was meaningless from the start because you don't really gain anything worthwhile. Most jobs you just get AP in a secondary stat... and maybe bragging rights? I suppose also the accomplishment of holding a key down for roughly 16hrs a day for a couple months warrants some congratulations because I know a lot of people certainly wouldn't go through all the trouble for a rank.

grats ZeroByDivide

[quote=Omniscient1]First place exploited the game. He was illegit. People may disagree but it's the truth since Nexon basically now patch that exploit up. Since they patch that up it automatically makes the first place a illegit. Since he was doing something that wasn't meant to be in the game. Nexon just let it go for so long just because they wanted to the first person to hit 250.[/quote]
It wasn't an obvious exploit. In my perspective, it seems more clever than some glitch exploitation. Besides, a lot of the other high ranking players probably used it too, to some extent, just not as efficiently. Just let the man have his glory.

[quote=mazori]My question is, how did he get on without getting DCed? I thought he and the rest of the top 25 (apart from the obvious hackers) were getting DC hacked to get the hackers in the top?[/quote]
He told his friends and allies to keep it a secret to avoid getting dc hacked and facing too much lag.
He did get dc'd a handful of times by hackers in the server in the process of training.

[quote=tzionmesil]@sanic nexon should release 5th within a year from what they showed on RED update and telling us its on work so lvl 250 will be meaningful when that happens
Also lvl 200 is still a mile stone and something ppl want to reach since you unlock 2 new skills like ppl that have a main char that have link skills want to reach lvl 210 for lvl 3 link skill[/quote]
Maybe if they stopped making new classes they could keep up with 5th job content.

[quote=13e4n3r]there's first place and then there's the rest lol.

if you're not first you're last[/quote]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPFMzskXZvY]If you ain't first, you're last.[/url]

[quote=Sanic]Give it a year 250 will become as meaningless as 200 is now.[/quote]

Idk how true that really is. It takes a TON of time to get to 250. It took zero from 2/24/14 to 4/26/2014 just to get from 247-250. Thats 3 levels in 2 months and 2 days of frequent training. Think about how long it takes you to get 3 levels at different points in your training. Even at your current level, 170, you can level 3 times in probably 6-8 hours. I really doubt you understand how difficult it was for him to level, and if you did, you would understand why everybody used the "illegal glitch" even though a nexon employee said that it was intended to be in.

@Omniscient1 this could be pointed to you too

[quote=13e4n3r]if you're not first you're last[/quote]

How can there be thousands of people in last place? There's only 1 last place.

All these Lumis... seriously? It's just two people.

[quote=4Times]How come I'm not seeing any threads about this? o.o[/quote]

Because no-one except you and I really care.

[quote=Plenair]I'm pretty sure it was meaningless the day it came out.[/quote]

This. I doubt anyone really cares.

[quote=Sanic]Give it a year 250 will become as meaningless as 200 is now.[/quote]

That's probably true with all the new ways to level up and such. Though it should have taken a year since kms took a year to hit 250. However, i don't think hitting any max lvl in our current game is really as meaningful anymore. Since the player base is too low to actually make a big acknowledgement out of it.

[quote=Omniscient1]You are basically saying that the pg hack long ago was meant to be since Nexon did not patch it up for a long time. That the familer hack was meant to be since Nexon decided to wait a month to patch it up. Just because a hack or exploit doesn't get patch up right away doesn't take away the fact that it was against the rules.[/quote]

uh... no? all i said that something being patched doesn't automatically mean it was unintended. i never said that a patched element [i]couldn't[/i] mean it was unintended.

[quote=Omniscient1]yea well i just want to get this out though. I don't care if people exploited this game to reach the top. It's just a bit weird to see all this praise to people who reach to 250 and claiming they are legit. Getting to 250 should never be that fast.[/quote]
Give it a year 250 will become as meaningless as 200 is now.

[quote=natalie]ah well you can look forward to maroyaa hitting 250 cause he didn't use the "exploit" or whatever people want to call it, but it would probably take a long time and you could tell by the huge gap between 246 and 238[/quote]

yea well i just want to get this out though. I don't care if people exploited this game to reach the top. It's just a bit weird to see all this praise to people who reach to 250 and claiming they are legit. Getting to 250 should never be that fast.

Anyways though to get back on topic. Congrats but I don't think it's a big deal anymore who hits max level. Not because someone already hit 250 but because the playerbase is too low now. That it really hard to see how much of a big deal it is.

[quote=Omniscient1]@xtripled:

Technically yes. Technically no one is legit player in this game since everyone breaks the rules some way or another. Knowing or not knowing they broke the rules. I am not saying there anything wrong with it. Just saying that the first lvl 250 and whoever used that exploit is illegit. It's classified as an exploit since Nexon patch that up. No I am not jealous. I hardly play this game anymore. Do not care to be first in anything. So don't say I am just saying this because I am jealous of them. I can careless but it's a pet peeve of mine when someone claims someone legit when they really aren't. So to answer your question yes technically anyone who had used that exploit regardless if they knew it was an exploit or didn't was an illegit. Just like everyone else who plays this game is illegit some way or another. Though everyone has there own definition of legit or illegit. So i guess in your own definition they might still be legit. Some people claim that selling nx is still a legit person.

@above that makes no sense at all. Things get patched up for a reason. usually when things get patch up it means that it was unfair toward the other players. Example, they had tons of exploits and hacks not patch up for awhile. Then later on patch them up. Does that mean those exploits and hacks were meant to be? Please think logical.[/quote]
ah well you can look forward to maroyaa hitting 250 cause he didn't use the "exploit" or whatever people want to call it, but it would probably take a long time and you could tell by the huge gap between 246 and 238

[quote=iVege]just because it was patched doesn't mean it wasn't meant to be.[/quote]

You are basically saying that the pg hack long ago was meant to be since Nexon did not patch it up for a long time. That the familer hack was meant to be since Nexon decided to wait a month to patch it up. Just because a hack or exploit doesn't get patch up right away doesn't take away the fact that it was against the rules.

looks like luminous and demon slayer is gonna be the new drk and i/l of pre bb

@xtripled:

Technically yes. Technically no one is legit player in this game since everyone breaks the rules some way or another. Knowing or not knowing they broke the rules. I am not saying there anything wrong with it. Just saying that the first lvl 250 and whoever used that exploit is illegit. It's classified as an exploit since Nexon patch that up. No I am not jealous. I hardly play this game anymore. Do not care to be first in anything. So don't say I am just saying this because I am jealous of them. I can careless but it's a pet peeve of mine when someone claims someone legit when they really aren't. So to answer your question yes technically anyone who had used that exploit regardless if they knew it was an exploit or didn't was an illegit. Just like everyone else who plays this game is illegit some way or another. Though everyone has there own definition of legit or illegit. So i guess in your own definition they might still be legit. Some people claim that selling nx is still a legit person.

@above that makes no sense at all. Things get patched up for a reason. usually when things get patch up it means that it was unfair toward the other players. Example, they had tons of exploits and hacks not patch up for awhile. Then later on patch them up. Does that mean those exploits and hacks were meant to be? Please think logical.

just because it was patched doesn't mean it wasn't meant to be.

[quote=Omniscient1]First place exploited the game. He was illegit. People may disagree but it's the truth since Nexon basically now patch that exploit up. Since they patch that up it automatically makes the first place a illegit. Since he was doing something that wasn't meant to be in the game. Nexon just let it go for so long just because they wanted to the first person to hit 250.[/quote]

alright, so by your logic, everyone who used that (zero included, and basically all the high levels) are illegit. Therefore, by your logic, the 1st legit 250 had to be made/started training after the exploit was patched since anyone before that could have participated in this "exploit". Is that basically what you're saying? Not saying it's a right or wrong opinion, just making sure that's what you're saying.

First place exploited the game. He was illegit. People may disagree but it's the truth since Nexon basically now patch that exploit up. Since they patch that up it automatically makes the first place a illegit. Since he was doing something that wasn't meant to be in the game. Nexon just let it go for so long just because they wanted to the first person to hit 250.

[quote=mazori]My question is, how did he get on without getting DCed? I thought he and the rest of the top 25 (apart from the obvious hackers) were getting DC hacked to get the hackers in the top?[/quote]

He is a hacker.

My question is, how did he get on without getting DCed? I thought he and the rest of the top 25 (apart from the obvious hackers) were getting DC hacked to get the hackers in the top?

@4Times: http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2810622
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2810605

He didn't make it a huge deal. Didn't post on basil or anything, didn't smega beforehand. He told his friends and his ally members about it. When we showed up, word must've spread because all the sudden a ton of people started coming.

hype train? naw i'm good, i'll take my hype car