Bm and Mm guide update

@Elufu @bluebomber24
@ all BM/MM

I'm hereby presenting official notice that I'll update the [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Comprehensive-Bowmaster-and-Marksman-Guide-446.html]guide[/url]. I'm not going to be as ambitious as last time since I do in fact have better things to do, but I feel bad leaving it to rot.

To do list:
1. Update skill builds
2. Gut all the equipment stuff
3. Refer to poor Elufu for all technical calculator mumbojumbo
4. Fix weird formatting bugs
5, Update minor stuff like Link Skills and Character Cards
6. Farm out leveling guide
7. Update bossing videos by pointing to Bryan's channel (feel free to suggest others)
8. Ideal equipment list for combining set bonus and such

While I nominally play a couple hours a month, I'm not quite as up to date as I'd like to be for all the details that were previously included. I'd like help from other forumers here, especially to fact check minor changes I might have missed.

What I need from you:
1. An in depth explanation on the current state of Armor Break cause dat shi is weird still
2. A training guide (feel free to point me to any current one)
3. Cool archer videos
4, Maybe a Maple Reward points guide I can link to?
Extra credit
* Equipment comparisons for when various sets beat others
* proof reading

I'm not going to set myself up for failure by picking a deadline I probably won't keep, but you can expect so see me start editing sometime by the end of next weekend. If someone would like to step up and play major role in authoring this update I'd be happy to use you for slave labor and then include you name as payment

PS Apparently numbers are hard for basil now...

January 30, 2015

13 Comments • Newest first

krazyazn33

Welcome back! Seems like everyone's coming back after some hiatus, glad I can still learn a thing or two after a 6 month hiatus

Reply March 4, 2015

Dexen

[url=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX4BOU476jhW2aRT0bJleNg/videos]I suggest my videos for Bowmaster Bossing, aside from Brian's. (I haven't done them all)[/url]

I'd like to help if any is needed.

Reply February 5, 2015

Elufu

@airforce1: Let me know if you need any help with the wiki formatting. (Most of it is the same except heading and subheadings).

Also when you decide to make the BM and MM pages, edit the opening sentence in http://www.basilmarket.com/PC-Bowman-Wiki-91 so it links directly to your wiki pages (like i did for Mercedes).
Navigation to the wiki pages is really bothersome at the moment.

Reply January 31, 2015

twopointonefour

@bluebomber24: Yeah I seriously thought they would've addressed turret and damage reflect when they brought up "players found arrow blaster difficult to use".

Reply January 31, 2015

bluebomber24

[quote=twopointonefour]

I was also personally killed by AFA at empress today. So no it doesn't ignore damage reflecting. Only magic arrows deal full damage but even then I think they also trigger DR.[/quote]

At this point all Turret attacks needs to stop dealing reflect damage then as it should be more difficult now to not die due to Turret.

Reply January 31, 2015

twopointonefour

Here is my general training for leveling characters from 140~200. *ultra casual*

1. Bodyguards in Showa.
2. Bains in Armory of Showa (13x mobs with 26k EXP)
3. Zakum x2 (use rune and enter, then wait 15 minutes and use another rune)
4. Horntail x2
5. Krexel x2 (Use a rune again; if you can kill an eye before the rune buff expires even better)
6. Hilla x2 (If you can kill her fast enough grab a rune)
7. Stronghold
8. Dimension Invade PQ(mostly for just finishing off levels depending on where hunting previously mentioned bosses leave you at)
9. Commerci Trade Voyages are great EXP when you unlock Rosa and get even better. (Often netting 3.5~6m EXP per voyage and it scales with level so you get even more and more EXP)

I was also personally killed by AFA at empress today. So no it doesn't ignore damage reflecting. Only magic arrows deal full damage but even then I think they also trigger DR.

Reply January 31, 2015 - edited

bluebomber24

@airforce1: Uh, I havn't come up with a test that could concretely determine this. But it is still in KMS currently accordig to Max. There are some thing that make it seem like its intended such as the wording in the KMST patch notes, which implied it was broken this whole time.

It definitly behaves differently and appears to only exist within 100pix or so of the bms front range.

@Edit: Yeah, pretty much BMs need to be close. You have to e like within 100pix or so. But again, I have not tested.

edit2: Whoever gets nominated for that BM thing really needs to ask two things 1) How does Armor Break work and is it glitched. 2) how does TAFA work, if at all.

The problem with not knowing how those work is if they get broken, it will be difficult to figure out if they are and what the problem is. There are probaly alot of BMs that probaly wouldn't notice a change to AB or TAFA.

Reply January 31, 2015 - edited

airforce1

[quote=bluebomber24]Be aware of Turret's AFA (the installation): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO2jGSLR2OM[/quote]

This is both awesome and horrifying. The honest answer is this will be working as intended for Nexon programmers and is 100% consistent with the way FA has always worked. The good news is since AFA doesn't kill us during DR right?

Somehow I'm not surprised that AB is still weird as ever.

EDIT: I changed my mind. I assumed that BM was one shotting things which is clearly not the case. I can't remember precisely, but I think FA used to prioritize the mob it activated on and if it died reprioritize to the nearest live mob. If this is the case... we're only going to benefit from turret AFA when in close proximity to monsters? This would be completely intolerable at some bosses. I wish there was a better way to tell when AFA activates and which attack activated it.

Reply January 31, 2015 - edited

NeoBowmaster

@airforce1 : Welcome back!
I can help with the maple point system farming for BMs, since I do a lot of it in game.