Maple Council
It seems there are many issues with this thing already, many things are popping up.
When they came to us and asked us to apply, vote and nominate others for the Councilor position, we all did, we all thought it was going to be some awesome new way so that Nexon could listen to us.
I actually nominated myself and had quite a few people saying I should be it for Shadower, but that didn't play out that way. Apparently my ban from years ago stopped me from being chosen no matter how many people were on my side or even if a already chosen councilor said I'd be a good pick. I know a ton about the class, I even go out of my way to job change to Dual Blade, and Night Lord to compare and get all of their pros and cons. I have played all three from having no funds to being able to hit cap, I've done this from not only spending my own money on the game, but also from taking the time to kill bosses, scroll the gear and sell it, from knowing what people want in the FM and getting it and selling it (Stupidly cheap lol).
I've worked my ass off on my main, I've been helped and taught many things from my peers, I constantly help people on here and in game when they have questions about the class, or what's the difference or what is better for this situation or that. If I'm wrong, I get told the correct way, I learn and I use that information going forward. My problem with this http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1433065-ANNOUNCEMENT-Your-Councillors-for-the-2015-Maple-Leaf-Council!%26highlight%3Dcouncil%26nxid%3D6 < (Huge link lol) is that it's been proven that someone on that list have broken the TOS, way more than I ever could. Does Zelkova even have a Dual Blade? http://www.youtube.com/user/MochisGuides/search?query=Dual+blade I'm not even going to get into the Misusing thing, all I know is that he is the most talked about WH, I don't know of his skill or knowledge of the class, but from what I've read it seems he breaks the TOS on stream.
So with all this, I've tried to make my case a few times on being Shadower's Councilor, it seems it was all for naught, if the people were picked only off their "fame" and who they know, then this is by far the worst sham I've heard of from Nexon. I'm not saying the people there are bad or that they all don't know something about their classes, but if all we're going to have is some people who just want to spread their E fame and get by cause they've sold accounts that were to be exploited knowingly, have a guy who is nice as hell with all his little followers but a total ass on here and someone who doesn't even main the freaking class!
Then this will go nowhere, I know so many people who know a ton about their classes, know the basics and the expert stuff. People who can tell you exactly where to stay on a class to get the best possible time, hell some people who know the %s on skills so well they can tell you exactly how many hits it'll take to kill a boss (Yes, can be basic math) but these people were not chosen, there are some good ones there, Evan, Hero, Mech, DS, Night Walker, MM (i don't know Battle Mage, Phantom, Thunder Breaker, Shade, Bishop, Bowmaster), but then you have the others, the ones who get by cause of E-Fame. Also, someone just told me that mods weren't supposed to be chosen? Isn't Zelkova a mod on Reddit? O.O
I understand this may seem like me just crying and being childish but these aren't only my thoughts, I've been speaking with a few people about this and I finally just said "screw it" and am now making a thread.
Sorry for wall of text, I always do it qq
TLDR: Nexon did bad with some of the choosing for council, wanted to be on it, denied cause of ban so long ago, sees people on there who have sold accounts, streamed them breaking TOS and who just ride the E fame train.
Also, I don't care to be on the Council anymore, I just was really looking forward to try to help make this game more fun, for everyone. That was the only reason I wanted to be on that Council, but it's so damn rigged.
Cat tax http://i.imgur.com/3qCIS59.gif
Oh also, @Traitor was going for Dawn Warrior post, he can tell his side in the comments
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you complain and wrote this text wall as if the council was going to accomplish anything all this is a textbook example of fait accompli in action.
Don't know why anyone bothers with this. This is a joke from Nexon to make the players FEEL like they're apart of something and they can change the game.
Probably every response to your feedback will be this
"We at Nexon, Thank you for your feedback and contribution, we will think this over with our team and hopefully a change will be implemented. - Nexon"
It's all a bunch of streamers and other 2mil 2mil players that think they know the in's and out's of a class because they can solo nearly every boss.
I can understand the banning thing on Nexon's half though. Breaking the TOS is like having a criminal record in real life and that it forever brands you as someone who did something wrong. I do agree on the part of who they chose to represent. Misusing is a joke of representative. Only reason he hasn't been banned is because his like 1/4 of their whole sales.
TL;DR People need to stop crying, MLC is a joke, Nexon stoopid.
[quote=Draception]The game's dead anyway, what do you expect anyone to do at this point?
Aye lmao vote me fp wassup[/quote]
foweeeals tho gurlfrand
The game's dead anyway, what do you expect anyone to do at this point?
Aye lmao vote me fp wassup
I'm still gunning for dat lumi spot
Edit: dreams crushed by zerobydivide
[quote=Artasi]Hi Maplers!
As some of you may be aware, we have been asking for your nominations of "experts" of certain aspects of the MapleStory community over the past week. Today, I am happy to formally announce a new project that I am hoping to get off the ground this month - the Maple Leaf Council.
This "Council" is a group of players, selected from among the major aspects of the MapleStory community, by which we can facilitate feedback and discuss from the player-base to the MapleStory Development Team. Each appointed player will be responsible for gathering feedback and opinions from the division of the community they represent, to be given voice in concern with future updates, game balancing, suggestions and changes, etc.
We will be letting the nomination period continue through the rest of this month, where we will then decide who be chosen to represent the players in the First Maple Leaf Council. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE BELOW DETAILS ARE NOT FINAL AND ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE UPON REVIEW.
Mission Statement
It is the sole mission of the Maple Leaf Council and of each Maple Leaf Councillor to represent, to the best of their ability, the aspect of the MapleStory community to which they have been appointed. It is the responsibility of the Councillor to take note of the interests and opinions of those they represent in a fashion that is unbiased and not at all self-serving, while also pushing the aspect to which they have been appointed in a positive direction by serving as a teacher, leader, and voice for their community, and by advocating for the ultimate gameplay success of the aspect to which they have been appointed.
Appointment and Direction
1. Candidates for the Maple Leaf Council may be nominated by any player in good standing with Nexon America. Please note that self-nominations are taken into consideration as well.
2. The MapleStory community team will hold full responsibility for the appointment of the title of "Maple Leaf Councillor" upon one (1) nominated person per community division.
3. Once appointed to this position, a Maple Leaf Councillor will serve a nine(9)-month-term at which point the position will be open to new appointees for the position. Maple Leaf Councillors can submit to the MapleStory Community Team for re-appointment, no more than 30-days before the expiration of their term of office.
4. Selected members are expected to actively participate in the program for the duration of their term. Please take personal time constraints into consideration carefully when applying. Lack of Council activity will end in impeachment from the office of Councillor.
5. Members of the press, beit professional, individual, or fan-site directed, or those acting in any volunteer capacity at a recognized news, press, or fan site outlet are not eligible to participate on the Maple Leaf Council
6. All members will be asked to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement. Various aspect of work of the council will be shared with the general public, however, in case of certain upcoming content and dates that is being shared with members, we require that all members sign this agreement so we can still have our surprises.
What We Look For in a Councillor
Clarity of word, both written and spoken.
Knowledge of appointed aspect, including knowledge of the community.
A determined and exceptionally precise attention to detail.
Weekly availability for Council-related activity.
Influence and good standing within Nexon and the MapleStory community.
Availability for possible travel, if requested by Nexon.
What a Councillor Can Do
Create or otherwise draft Council legislation.
Bring topics of interest to the attention of the Council.
Vote on Council legislation.
Council legislation can be crafted for numerous reasons, not necessarily limited to:
To request a formal redress of grievances/issues from the Development team.
To formally propose, recommend, or push for consideration of ideas or suggestions.
To formally denounce the implementation of upcoming content or features.
What a Councillor Cannot Do
Propose any removal of past updates through Council legislation.
Ban, threaten, or act as an administrator toward players, both in-game and within the forums.
Delete forums posts, threads, etc.[/quote]
[url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/community#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1376120-ANNOUNCEMENT-Maple-Leaf-Council%26nxid%3D6]Source[/url]
[quote=Simroh1]Welcome to maple politics 101[/quote]
nx and money always win
Quick tip: If you want to get on the MLC, start streaming. That's the trend I'm seeing.
@wall: I apologize.
[quote=Dndre]What exactly is the point of this council thing anyway...[/quote]
make sure the people who spend nx for cap damage are better known
[quote=Drextal]do MMs even need a councillor?[/quote]
Yes they do. Who else is going to complain about sharing equips with a cat tamer?
[quote=SANsaurr]@wall: I suppose. Nexon should have been smarter about this so drama like this doesn't happen.[/quote]
Could've released the whole list at once instead of partially initiating it.
What exactly is the point of this council thing anyway...
@wall: I suppose. Nexon should have been smarter about this so drama like this doesn't happen.
[quote=xXMCheifXx]council confirmed rigged marksman council not even a marksman wtf is this[/quote]
do MMs even need a councillor? MM are easy to use
mobs? pierce
single target? snipe
gollux head? arrow illusion on opposite side
[quote=ImZelkova]If any DB's would like to more or less officially speak their mind on the class, feel free to email me at dualbladecouncil at gmail.com and I'll make sure your voice is heard.
While I may not be the best candidate for DB, I certainly do make sure to the best of my abilities that bugs/hackers/etc are brought to light.[/quote]
Thanks man, that's all we can ask for.
If any DB's would like to more or less officially speak their mind on the class, feel free to email me at dualbladecouncil at gmail.com and I'll make sure your voice is heard.
While I may not be the best candidate for DB, I certainly do make sure to the best of my abilities that bugs/hackers/etc are brought to light.
The entire council thing is pointless.
GMS will end up being copy pasta for the next year or so before completely dying off for MS2.
The fact that mass amounts of PREMIUM customers are being perm banned proves the end of maplestory is inevitable and nigh.(premium = paying, how the servers stay alive)
[quote=xXMCheifXx]council confirmed rigged marksman council not even a marksman wtf is this[/quote]
You smell Bryan, what Bowmaster has a MM ign. /thread
[b]Note:[/b] I think this is the first part of your duty as MM-Councilor to hint at ign-changes eh? *nudgenudge*
@wall: I agree with you but, I just think there were more better candidates for the DB council seat.
[quote=ImZelkova]Yes I have a dual blade, it was my first level 200, is my highest level and has been my main for over 3 years now.[/quote]
Ah, then pardon my ignorance, I've never seen you post in the thief section before and by going through your videos, I've only seen what was posted and it was just revamp videos.
Also a little funny that your recent history here is only in my thread, so you've been summoned then.
I can only hope you take care of the class, it's great where it is now, the only change I can think of is Blade clone killing you during DR, but I'm sure you got that on your list. ^^
council confirmed rigged marksman council not even a marksman wtf is this
[quote=Skelorm]lol you didn't have to change your basil char from your marksman. we 'totally' would have believed you bro.[/quote]
my mm was my main on basil for a long time up until like last week..idk. I dont come here often.
[quote=Wall] @SANsaurr: From what I know his videos are made before/during the translations to english by max (orangemushroom), so not knowing the update verbatim, but giving a general overview should be enough, you can't really expect more in terms of content pre release[/quote]
Basically this. I worked with what translations I could get a hold of and would make videos of training/skills/content etc. Things changed and not everything was always perfectly understandable.
[quote=ImZelkova]Yes I have a dual blade, it was my first level 200, is my highest level and has been my main for over 3 years now.[/quote]
lol you didn't have to change your basil char from your marksman. we 'totally' would have believed you bro.
@Wall: You're correct, but it'd be a more direct approach. I had an issue and Artasi ignored me on forums, I even went as far as making a twitter just so he'd listen to me, but was ignored, the next comment under mine was replied to.
@Rachelll: It doesn't seem to be the case, I wasn't only speaking for myself on that one @Traitor was suspended for 2 days a while ago and he got the same treatment.
@:epicderp I agree, people are mad butt hurt, but they're usually mad for the wrong reason, the main position that got me all butt hurt was the Dual Blade position, I googled around and the only time he played a DB on video was 2 years ago, and for KMS for revamps. I've only known him to play Bowmen. Also, thanks for your kind words.
@SANsaurr: Yus.
It's Nexon. They've never done anything well for the game
Zelkova's Blade Master: http://i.imgur.com/XMuNG1w.jpg
Also have to agree with you where there are certain people on the MLC that should't be there
Edit: just saw Zelkova's post...
@wall: I watched his RED revamped video and it seemed like he didn't know much..
[quote=ImZelkova]My main for over 3 years now has been a dual blade. If you have a problem with the selection please bring it up on the official forums.[/quote]
http://gyazo.com/86b5982cd0f99e4665d21b496381acfb
this guy has twice the experience you could ever have!
Yes I have a dual blade, it was my first level 200, is my highest level and has been my main for over 3 years now.
I think the thing with the MLC is a chance for people who want to participate and be given a voice. Though being a councillor does not dictate what changes happen, it involves working with the player base to create a better community. I don't see how previous bans have to do with any of this, if a play wishes to engage with other players to help and guide them for the better, what better chance is this for said-player to redeem themselves by helping other players out? I mean if said-councillor was found to be a bad choice or is mis-guided, they could easily 1.) set them on track 2.) revoke the position and go back to point blank. I believe that there are a lot of people doing this for ego-boosts but there are genuine players out there too help. I believe if the knowledge is there and the willingness to help is there, why not go ahead and give them a chance to redeem themselves, an opportunity to change for the better? I highly doubt that Nexon will share highly classified information with the Councillors anyways so if that is the case they could refrain from sharing it with said-councillor anyways.
If someone wants to help, let them help. If the player base does not wish for help, they can simply carry-on and submit their opinions via the councillor contact.
@epicderp, if you wish to vote/nominate a person you can still do so but just commenting [url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/community#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1429260-MLC-UPDATED-Open-Positions-6-1-15%2Fpage13%26nxid%3D6]here[/url]. You don't really have to do much, but I'm sure @AntiSenpai appreciates the support
[quote=SpiritBag]Its not like GMS is actually going to make any class changes that don't come directly from KMS anyway. The whole council thing is pointless.[/quote]
This x100 all Nexon knows is ctrl+c -> ctrl+v
[quote=Rachelll]They only considered recent bans[/quote]
my ban from before the 1st second chance (and any sort of illegal nx/cash trade) from before that factored in me getting rejected
Its not like GMS is actually going to make any class changes that don't come directly from KMS anyway. The whole council thing is pointless.
Lol Zelkova as a DB council?
-quits db-
Damn seems like all that's come out of this is a lot of butthurt maplers and QQ'ing. Not directing that specifically at you op but just the general reaction to the news. For what it's worth I see you post on the forums and you seem to be all that you've expressed in your post and I would have "voted" for you if voting had actually counted for something. Maybe moving forward Nexon can implement a system where councilors can be replaced if they are deemed not worthy of their position so we can weed out the unqualified players and eventually nature will take its course and we'll end up with the people we actually want in those positions.
[quote=AntiSenpai]Apparently my ban from years ago stopped me from being chosen no matter how many people were on my side or even if a already chosen councilor said I'd be a good pick.[/quote]
They only considered recent bans