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Why cant we just have country specific Nx codes?

No offense, but I'm pretty angry that I have to start paying more money just because certain residents are exploiting the difference in currencies. Which in turn causes a big problem for Nexon's economy. However, I'm not saying everyone does this, but this problem could have been approached in a better manner. Why not for example place restrictions where each country has a specific code that only works on accounts made in that country. Of course further restrictions will have to be made because this wouldn't be enough. However, I believe this is a much better alternative than just forcing non US residents to pay more up front. Certain players argue that they have been paying too much since the beginning of time, which is a fair argument, but let's think about it. You spending a dollar is no different than me spending a dollar in my region. The only difference is when we decide to buy things from each other's homeland, but does it look like I'm importing nx whenever I want it? If we can just eliminate the possibility of charging nx on accounts not local to the region where it was purchased then wouldn't you agree that it is fine? This is the hugest turn off for me from buying nx and I rarely buy nx as well...

May 1, 2015

17 Comments • Newest first

BobR

[quote=iElmo]The only thing not fair about this is that people charging 10 CAD are getting 7.8k NX when they should be getting 8.2k NX.[/quote]

Currency conversion fees.
Nexon has to pay the banks to convert $CAD to $US, and the banks do -nothing- for free.

When I buy a game from IndieStars in the UK, I have to pay a currency conversion fee on my Paypal transaction on top of the cost of the game for Paypal to convert my $US into British pounds.
With minimums, even a 99cent game will end up costing $2 because of the conversion fee. On larger purchases it's a percentage of the total.

It's how the world does business.
Nexon has nothing to do with it and no control over it.

Reply May 2, 2015 - edited
imshocute

[quote=Rationalism]People claiming it's now "fair" for everyone need to leave their bubble. Sure, other countries will now pay the same amount as the US, but they aren't accounting for the cost of living or each currencies buying power specific to it's country. I'm pretty sure a lot more people were buying more nx cause it was cheaper, but now that incentive is gone. Usually I buy 10k every one or two weeks just to buy something useless from the cs cause why not? It was only $8. Now I probably won't. It was not a smart move on Nexon part imo, since they are selling fake currency with no value outside of Maplestory in exchange for real currency. NX cash costs Nexon literally nothing to produce, maybe a few cents to print the cards. Now people will just stop buying NX because they see it as being unfair. But what do I know? Maybe they were losing money somehow.[/quote]

Don't buy NX anymore if you're unhappy. Why bother giving money to a company you don't like?

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
iElmo

[quote=Rationalism]People claiming it's now "fair" for everyone need to leave their bubble. Sure, other countries will now pay the same amount as the US, but they aren't accounting for the cost of living or each currencies buying power specific to it's country. I'm pretty sure a lot more people were buying more nx cause it was cheaper, but now that incentive is gone. Usually I buy 10k every one or two weeks just to buy something useless from the cs cause why not? It was only $8. Now I probably won't. It was not a smart move on Nexon part imo, since they are selling fake currency with no value outside of Maplestory in exchange for real currency. NX cash costs Nexon literally nothing to produce, maybe a few cents to print the cards. Now people will just stop buying NX because they see it as being unfair. But what do I know? Maybe they were losing money somehow.[/quote]

People claiming that it's "not fair" need to leave their bubble. You do realize that anything that has a value will be priced at the same value but accounted for the conversion rate? As I said earlier, a commodity that is worth $10 isn't going to be 10 CAD. Other games have adapted this system too. The only thing not fair about this is that people charging 10 CAD are getting 7.8k NX when they should be getting 8.2k NX. Also, Nexon should account for currencies with higher value and give more NX for the $10 as well.

NX definitely has value since virtual goods are forms of commodities.

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
Rationalism

People claiming it's now "fair" for everyone need to leave their bubble. Sure, other countries will now pay the same amount as the US, but they aren't accounting for the cost of living or each currencies buying power specific to it's country. I'm pretty sure a lot more people were buying more nx cause it was cheaper, but now that incentive is gone. Usually I buy 10k every one or two weeks just to buy something useless from the cs cause why not? It was only $8. Now I probably won't. It was not a smart move on Nexon part imo, since they are selling fake currency with no value outside of Maplestory in exchange for real currency. NX cash costs Nexon literally nothing to produce, maybe a few cents to print the cards. Now people will just stop buying NX because they see it as being unfair. But what do I know? Maybe they were losing money somehow.

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
SlyOne

@MapleScrub
@Undexme

The only thing frustrating with this is the return in nx though.. I don't see why they couldn't have made it more than 10$(taxed it somehow) or at least GIVE that option so we get 10knx. Now if we want to buy a cube package that's like 19knx 2 10$ cards are not enough and we have nothing to do but to buy an extra card to make the difference. That's just an example though. The same can be said with anything JUST under 25k nx. Everyone outside of USD forced to buy another card and in the end Nexon profits from that. Sure I guess people can save the nx but it's the convenience too. I hope you guys see where I'm going with this.

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
imshocute

Because $1 CAD doesn't equal $1 USD? You were paying LESS than what USD residents paid from actual stores (not talking about pcgamesupply). Now it is balanced (in some way lols).

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
iElmo

Nexon is basically now accounting for currency conversion. All websites that take forms of payment do this. If an item is priced at $40 on Amazon then it's going to cost slightly above that for CAD. I'm not sure how Nexon is going to keep up with the change in conversions though.

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
epicderp

Don't know how steam deals with exchange rates if they're current or not but you could try buying nx through steam to avoid nexon's fixed rate.

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
TrumanB

[quote=Momijii]Currency conversions are a thing. Nexon isn't the only company that charges more (or less) for different countries.[/quote]

Actually their conversion rates are unfair anyways. Yesterday $10 Canadian could only get 7.8k NX. When it should give 8.2. Which isn't a lot, but if you look at the 2.2k decrease already, 400nx makes quite a difference (especially if people buy it in bulk). If they're going to change it, they should ATLEAST follow the current rates.

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
Momijii

Currency conversions are a thing. Nexon isn't the only company that charges more (or less) for different countries.

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
TrumanB

If I remember correctly, CAD NX used to be like it is right now, but Nexon changed it so it would be 'fair'. So I don't know why they're taking steps back now...
All I can say is: Nexon is digging it's own grave. I definitely won't be buying NX after this. It's not necessarily the change that I don't like (which actually is kind of fair... as much I hate to admit it), it's the feeling that I have to actually pay more now. While other people who were exploiting CAD NX go back to their regular rates, Canadians have to suffer from this change.

Nexon thought up the worst possible way to make things 'fair', in-fact I'm pretty sure it made quite a few people mad. A better solution would have been to increase the US and other countries NX rates. Then no one can complain about any loss.

Also I just want to say, NX was freakin' expensive to begin with, by doing this, I'm expecting their economy to go straight down.

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
DwerG

As someone from England, I've been inexplicably banned from charging NX for several years with no provided reason. I've never been banned, and no one else has ever logged in to my account, so they literally could not pay me to charge NX now.

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
Dorks

it's prob bc they noticed a lot more CAD NX flowing in the past few yrs
i'm not afraid of* admitting to taking advantage of it as a person from the US but come on nexon ur game isn't THAT great that ppl outside the country spend the same amount of money to get ur crap cards when it'll easily buy them a full video game

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
Undexme

1 Canadian dollar is worth less than 1 American dollar and buys less of everything else in the world when it comes to currency conversions. It is fair for NX to be this way as well - otherwise, should a Chinese person be allowed to get 10,000 NX with 10 Yuan (worth $1.60 after conversion)?

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
Vitel

The whole thing is poopy, I agree but nothing can be done to change nexon's mind. If we actually had any impact on nexon's decisions then the game probably wouldn't be dying out how it is right now Aside from people stop buying NX to try to prove a point nothing else really matters. But lets face it the NX "addicts" and ones who can't help them self's that want to be super godly an such will buy NX with the new rates regardless of how much they hate it.

Personally, it's ganna suck but I have no intentions on buying NX anymore after this. I can earn enough maple reward points to buy a 1 day shop twice a month. I can live with that. Or even doing surveys to make 1.8k nx for a 90 day stand up shop. It's a pain but I used to do it so I'll do it again if need be.

Edit: @MapleScrub The issue is that we would be paying $10 CAD for like 7k NX, like @asianboii59 said "You spending a dollar is no different than me spending a dollar in my region. The only difference is when we decide to buy things from each other's homeland, but does it look like I'm importing nx whenever I want it?"

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
MapleScrub

I honestly don't see the huge deal in this. Sure, you may have been paying a little less before, but now you're paying the same $$$ as the rest of us. Also, I don't think Nexon is changing this just because people are exploiting this. It makes sense for them to match their currency with the different rates around the world, given that it's 1:1000 with usd.

Reply May 1, 2015 - edited
Darksword

The issue with that is that the US players will start complaining how "the rates are unfair and pay-to-play players outside the US are scamming Nexon" and how we will be receiving "special benefits".

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