Do women make less than men?

So a paper came out that I suggest everyone who is interested in the pay gap read.

Basically, a lot of outcry comes from the saying "women make less than men". However, it's more accurate to say "women EARN less than men", NOT "women get PAID less than men". If a woman gets paid less, it means she gets paid less for the SAME work, and that doesn't happen much anymore. However, women regularly earn less than men because they tend to work in less lucrative fields, or work fewer hours on average. This may be due to differing interests or family reasons.


May 21, 2016

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@readers: Ah, kk. I'm reading the links you gave btw, thanks! Kinda interested.

Reply May 21, 2016

@ashleyattacked: Oh yes, absolutely. This is not news and has been a topic of discussion for a while. I just wanted to address the OP's statements directly.

And yes, the fact that there are fewer men in college in recent years compared to previous years is also another issue altogether.

Reply May 21, 2016

@readers: No one is disputing that women earn less over time.

We're disputing that malice and sexism is to blame.

Because it isn't.

The trend that actually matters now is the trend of vastly fewer men being accepted into college, being able to afford college, graduating college and dealing with a culture that is essentially at war with masculinity.

Reply May 21, 2016 - edited

I think there are other factors at work that other people don't tend to discuss or talk about, probably because these are things that are definitely difficult to talk about without at least getting one side of the debate heated on this issue.

Negotiation of salary is one thing; women tend to not fare very well at this task compared to men [1]. Workplace bullying may have some kind of indirect effect on this as well [2]. Using certain personality models (within the psychological literature), women tend to report higher levels of traits like neuroticism and agreeableness [3], which tend to be negatives when it comes to maintaining success and a position of authority within the workplace [4].

(I'm not trying to present any sort of slant or bias towards women at all, rather I just think that there may be some other factors involved that are not often considered. Maybe the psychological research already has that slanted bias towards women, in which case I have no idea. But this kind of research may probably help to at least explain some of these differences, whether these differences are biological, cultural or societal in nature at the moment are currently not known. Regardless this is definitely a very interesting topic altogether.)


Reply May 21, 2016 - edited

@keyan22: Exactly.

And if it did happen - companies would be bulking up on women employees for the cheaper labour.

But they aren't.

Because the wage gap is fodder for social justice warriors of limited intellect. Not people of actual merit with the ability to think critically.

Reply May 21, 2016 - edited

I knew it was bs since the start, it`s not even legal for them to give less to women, even the guy who made the statistics came out to say it isn't extremely accurate, and wasn't intended to be.

Reply May 21, 2016 - edited

Absolutely not.

Feminists seem to be incapable of learning the difference between wage and earnings.

Reply May 21, 2016 - edited

@saitama: raging feminists think otherwise

Reply May 21, 2016 - edited

This is old, everyone already knows this.

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