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Obesity is more than a health concern; it is the most serious health problem our nation faces, period. It contributes to heart disease, the #1 cause of death in America. It significantly reduces the individual's quality of life and interferes with a person's basic functionality. It drains taxpayer dollars and hurts the economy. It burdens families at the interpersonal level. Tobacco, while harmful, pales in comparison to the damage potential of obesity. However, it is socially acceptable to tell a person to quit smoking because it'll kill them, yet it is considered rude or bullying to suggest the equivalent about weight loss. How much longer is society going to accept this?

February 21, 2015

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FallenLink

Because you know im all about that bass, about that bass. No treble.

Reply February 26, 2015
spireweb

I tell fat people sweat is just fat crying

Reply February 26, 2015
Reticent

If fat acceptance didn't exist, anorexia or close-to anorexic behavior might be on the rise. Which I think is a reason why people are mobilizing for fat acceptance.

Reply February 25, 2015
evyxx

idk man, i've been on both ends of the spectrum in the last TWO YEARS going between nearly 200 and now 130 & yeah i was really unhealthy and depressed and a burden while i was fatter but honestly....part of the depression was probably from just how ugly i felt, like i was too fat to be worthwhile, and i was most definitely treated as such. and half the confidence boost i have now is from society "accepting" my body shape (tho im still pretty chubby) and yeah... ive just been treated a lot different at different weights and i think that's why fat acceptance needs to be A Thing, because it is not acceptable to treat fat people with no human decency whatsoever and society deems it acceptable strictly due to their weight, even horrible things that are not OK no matter who they happen to are suddenly "deserved." "it's a health concern" and yeah it is, and obesity stems from a lot more than just plain overeating - depression, anxious eating, binge eating disorders, stress, etc - that should be addressed as well, if not first, rather than telling people "just stop eating" because while that's nice in theory, it isn't going to work and you're taking away people's coping mechanisms without offering them the proper tools to survive without it. i don't support obesity, i support fat people. but i'm 100% sure i'm gonna get written off as being the insane fat chick here or someone's going to tell me to go back to a blogging site i don't use. xox

Reply February 25, 2015
aznseal

[quote=IKickCats]Why do you care about their health style? If they're fat let them do what they have to do more than likely they're aware of it and if they do nothing about it then that's there problem not yours and please don't give me that "but they're increasing health costs" bs. Also who cares if people are accepting of others weight there's nothing wrong with that because those people can see beyond their body appearance and accept them for their personality. Finally people don't tell fat people to lose weight because more than half the time we know we need to lose weight like damn we're fat we know I'm 330lbs so what I already work out hate how I look ? Do something about it. I can almost guarantee you're one of those people that will keep his or her mouth shut in front of a person but then say it behind their back you disapprove of whatever you don't like about them.[/quote]

No. I say it to their face. And I care because it's literally my job (in the near future) to tell people that they should lose weight or face the consequences later in life.

@TrueAtheist: I'm not bothered that it's part of my taxes. I've already accepted it. I just have a problem with the people who promote it as "being fat doesn't mean i'm unhealthy". Well, more likely than not, yes, it does mean you're unhealthy.

Reply February 25, 2015 - edited
TrueAtheist

[quote=aznseal]It is via taxes and rising healthcare costs.[/quote]

What then are your views on those who engage in high-risk physical activity and extreme sports? These people have a much higher chance of being admitted into the ER, so if you make the argument that fat people are affecting you due to taxes and rising healthcare costs then you must concede that people who play extreme sports are doing so as well.

@ZeDarkLynx Fast food restaurants do not make you fat, eating at a caloric surplus over an extended period of time makes you fat. You can eat fast food every day and lose weight. There are countries that have virtually no fast food restaurants where there is a high percentage of overweight and obese people (i.e. The island of Samoa).

Reply February 22, 2015 - edited
fakestories

[quote=IKickCats]Why do you care about their health style? If they're fat let them do what they have to do more than likely they're aware of it and if they do nothing about it then that's there problem not yours and please don't give me that "but they're increasing health costs" bs. Also who cares if people are accepting of others weight there's nothing wrong with that because those people can see beyond their body appearance and accept them for their personality. Finally people don't tell fat people to lose weight because more than half the time we know we need to lose weight like damn we're fat we know I'm 330lbs so what I already work out hate how I look ? Do something about it. I can almost guarantee you're one of those people that will keep his or her mouth shut in front of a person but then say it behind their back you disapprove of whatever you don't like about them.[/quote]

the issue is that our culture is accepting, even embracing, of a scientifically proven unhealthy lifestyle that doubles as an economical detriment. we've warped obesity into an exclusively [i]image[/i] problem when it's much more than that. good for those who are aware of their obesity - it's great that they're confident admist the "skinny fashion," but it doesn't excuse them from OP's original point

Reply February 22, 2015 - edited
IKickCats

Why do you care about their health style? If they're fat let them do what they have to do more than likely they're aware of it and if they do nothing about it then that's there problem not yours and please don't give me that "but they're increasing health costs" bs. Also who cares if people are accepting of others weight there's nothing wrong with that because those people can see beyond their body appearance and accept them for their personality. Finally people don't tell fat people to lose weight because more than half the time we know we need to lose weight like damn we're fat we know I'm 330lbs so what I already work out hate how I look ? Do something about it. I can almost guarantee you're one of those people that will keep his or her mouth shut in front of a person but then say it behind their back you disapprove of whatever you don't like about them.

Reply February 22, 2015 - edited
aznseal

[quote=ZeDarkLynx]its not the people problem its the government for allowing fast food to exist if we made the fast food restarants to stop giving food with high calories it be much easier[/quote]

The problem isn't about being obese. The problem is people trying to accept it.

Reply February 22, 2015 - edited
ZeDarkLynx

its not the people problem its the government for allowing fast food to exist if we made the fast food restarants to stop giving food with high calories it be much easier

Reply February 22, 2015 - edited
ILikeAnime

I have zero problem with fat people and treat them like any normal person. I can get really annoyed when fat people make excuses for being fat:

- Fast food is cheap and healthy food is expensive - Bch please, even if healthy food were cheaper you would still buy fast food, because in general people love fat pizza, burgers, fries.
- Fast food restaurant all over the place - Its not the restaurant problem that you have zero discipline and can't control your lust. Everyone likes to eat what they want, your nothing special.
- I have no time to exercise - I know a lot of people that barely have time to sport, but also lots of people are just using this as an excuse. 1 hour exercise is barely 4% of your day. And if you have time to play games, go clubbing, lazying in front of the tv, you surely can make a hour free for a work out.

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
lettucing

I figured this thread was going to be by you.

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
2005chuy

yeah but chicken nuggets r awesum

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
LeeKwangSoo

[quote=aznseal]Tobacco is worse than eating normally, sure. Eating bad food is arguably worse than tobacco.[/quote]

Well you can also eat tobacco if you really wanted to

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
aznseal

[quote=LeeKwangSoo]Some people just can't stop eating 24/7 since they love food so much. That's just their way of life. But yea, the condescending (might not be the right word) culture does disgust me quite a bit. It's good to stand up to oneself at times. But when you make such tremendous effort to empower something that you know is bad for your health, it's kinda ridiculous.

But I'd still say that tobacco is even worse. Disagree all you want, but there is nothing good about tobacco. Food is good if you eat appropriate amount of it. Some people might get kinda chubby since they eat 2000 calories a day and don't get a lot of exercise. That's still much better than smoking. But being obese is on a whole another level. It's just as bad as tobacco but the initial cause of the health problem is still not as obviously stupid.[/quote]

Tobacco is worse than eating normally, sure. Eating bad food is arguably worse than tobacco.

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
LeeKwangSoo

Some people just can't stop eating 24/7 since they love food so much. That's just their way of life. But yea, the condescending (might not be the right word) culture does disgust me quite a bit. It's good to stand up to oneself at times. But when you make such tremendous effort to empower something that you know is bad for your health, it's kinda ridiculous.

But I'd still say that tobacco is even worse. Disagree all you want, but there is nothing good about tobacco. Food is good if you eat appropriate amount of it. Some people might get kinda chubby since they eat 2000 calories a day and don't get a lot of exercise. That's still much better than smoking. But being obese is on a whole another level. It's just as bad as tobacco but the initial cause of the health problem is still not as obviously stupid.

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
Anthorix

@Chema:

but i already did.

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
Chema

[quote=Anthorix]lul, Mcdonalds encourages that!

but yah, like i said, do wutever the heck you want.
but remember which things you want have to be completed first.
and if you don't prioritize what you want, you're not really living with a goal.
and that's ok.
but if it's not ok with you, then yur either free, or a zombie.
and being free is different from being a zombie
cuz free is being able to change priorities, complete anything you want
being a zombie is just doing anything you feel at one moment instead of actually deciding based on every single event that lead to that moment.
living is having your entire life affect your decisions.
being free is making choices that don't have to follow how your life affected you. doing things with passion, you know who, what where when everything is happening. every moment is THE moment.
being a zombie is making choices that you just do. just do them for the sake of doing them but with no passion, just yearning and habit, safety, familiarity.

so, rly, ppl are so focused on the body types when its ALWAYS how people ARE. not only what they look like.

and what they ARE, is everything about them.
what they look like is just a small chunk of who they are.

its like, patching a leaky faucet when you can just turn it off.
ppl, especially young people, dont learn about going to the source of the problem. just complain, attack, use violence, condescend,
but through hypocrisy they become ostentatious, create fetishes, create the idea that being bad is ok. take comfort in being a hypocrit, cuz apparently everyone is.
and they get stuck being just another person following what they believe is the majority, cus with majority comes power.

and thats when people search for people to attack others with.
reminds me of war.[/quote]

You should make your posts longer so we can understand what you are trying to say

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
aznseal

[quote=ThotsRUs]Idk, maybe its because skinny people binge on junk food and they feel that they shouldn't critique fat people because they'll seem like hypocrites.
Or it could be crazy Tumblr, SJWs, defending them. I honestly wouldn't care if someone is gaining more and more weight/dietary problems unless its affecting me, my family, or friends.[/quote]

It is via taxes and rising healthcare costs.

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
Anthorix

[quote=0kevqn]If you can't control yourself from eating multiple cheeseburgers, that's your problem not McDonald's problem.[/quote]

lul, Mcdonalds encourages that!

but yah, like i said, do wutever the heck you want.
but remember which things you want have to be completed first.
and if you don't prioritize what you want, you're not really living with a goal.
and that's ok.
but if it's not ok with you, then yur either free, or a zombie.
and being free is different from being a zombie
cuz free is being able to change priorities, complete anything you want
being a zombie is just doing anything you feel at one moment instead of actually deciding based on every single event that lead to that moment.
living is having your entire life affect your decisions.
being free is making choices that don't have to follow how your life affected you. doing things with passion, you know who, what where when everything is happening. every moment is THE moment.
being a zombie is making choices that you just do. just do them for the sake of doing them but with no passion, just yearning and habit, safety, familiarity.

so, rly, ppl are so focused on the body types when its ALWAYS how people ARE. not only what they look like.

and what they ARE, is everything about them.
what they look like is just a small chunk of who they are.

its like, patching a leaky faucet when you can just turn it off.
ppl, especially young people, dont learn about going to the source of the problem. just complain, attack, use violence, condescend,
but through hypocrisy they become ostentatious, create fetishes, create the idea that being bad is ok. take comfort in being a hypocrit, cuz apparently everyone is.
and they get stuck being just another person following what they believe is the majority, cus with majority comes power.

and thats when people search for people to attack others with.
reminds me of war.

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
kevqn

[quote=Anthorix]Wutever totes your goat.

just dont smoke around ppl with breathing problems.
just dont demand health problems mean you're entitled to something.

go ahead, be chubby, fat, skinny, muscular, wutever.
but once you make threads emphasizing other body types not your own are worse, thats when you need to step on a lego.
theres something about everyones culture affecting diet, available resources affecting diet, so much environmental things that attacking people with body types is a waste of time.

you have to attack their culture, their way of life, the available resources.

You can't say you're fat! its unhealthy! and expect magic![/quote]

If you can't control yourself from eating multiple cheeseburgers, that's your problem not McDonald's problem.

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
Anthorix

Wutever totes your goat.

just dont smoke around ppl with breathing problems.
just dont demand health problems mean you're entitled to something.

go ahead, be chubby, fat, skinny, muscular, wutever.
but once you make threads emphasizing other body types not your own are worse, thats when you need to step on a lego.
theres something about everyones culture affecting diet, available resources affecting diet, so much environmental things that attacking people with body types is a waste of time.

you have to attack their culture, their way of life, the available resources.

You can't say you're fat! its unhealthy! and expect magic!
just like any dilemma, you have to do something about every single aspect of your topic.

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
MateoCl

@0kevqn: I know; I never said you did o-o

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
kevqn

[quote=MateoCl]@0kevqn: Honestly I don't even participate in these threads anymore. I just sit here and laugh at you and someone else argue [/quote]

I didn't even make this thread, I just agreed with him

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
MateoCl

@0kevqn: Honestly I don't even participate in these threads anymore. I just sit here and laugh at you and someone else argue

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
Nolen

South Park - Raising the Bar was a great episode about obesity

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
kevqn

[quote=migman1077]I get so mad when they thinking being obesse is ok when its really not i used to be a big kid but i worked my ass off to get where i am at no, but if someones trying to fix the issue you shouldnt bash them instead respect them alot for trying to fix there probelms[/quote]

If someone is trying to lose weight, I'd respect them more than I would anyone else.

@MateoCl: Yeah it is, this thread couldn't get any better

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
aznseal

[quote=Ecliptic]inb4 being skinny isn't healthy either[/quote]

It has it's own associated health risks.

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
MateoCl

Is that one/first like from @0kevqn ? It just has to be

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
migman1077

I get so mad when they thinking being obesse is ok when its really not i used to be a big kid but i worked my ass off to get where i am at no, but if someones trying to fix the issue you shouldnt bash them instead respect them alot for trying to fix there probelms

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
kevqn

[quote=Ecliptic]inb4 being skinny isn't healthy either[/quote]

I don't know why people always bring that up in these conversations.. The thread is about obesity, not list other things that aren't healthy either.

OT: I couldn't agree more with this thread, I find it extremely pathetic when people accept obesity. It's sad enough if you're obese and are okay with it, but when you're obese and try to comfort other obese people, it disgusts me. I know I don't suffer from obesity, you'd think my opinion doesn't really matter. This isn't depression, that I understand isn't something you can just fix, obesity is something you can fix (in most cases). If you're obese and happy with yourself, that's good for you, but don't try to make it seem like a good thing

edit: Happy to see someone agrees with me on topics like these on this site

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
Ecliptic

inb4 being skinny isn't healthy either

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
Chema

Man the harpoons

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
fun2killu

society accepts this, fat people don't.

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited
tiesandbowties

how'd med school naxin?

Reply February 21, 2015 - edited