We need to get over fat acceptance
Obesity is a huge problem in America. It takes a huge toll on our healthcare system, and I think part of it comes from people trying to spread fat acceptance. No one should be an ass to someone else, but at the same time, no one should spread the idea that being obese is healthy. Right now, obesity is the leading cause of health problems in the United States, but it's not being addressed as so because people like to spread around the idea that we need to accept people for who they are, so people are scared to point out that someone is fat and should stop eating so much.
If I tell someone to stop smoking or they'll get lung cancer, it's fine. If I tell someone to stop excessively drinking or they'll get cirrhosis, it's fine. If I tell someone to stop eating so much or they'll get heart disease, i'm suddenly a fat shaming butt. It's insane. People need to get over their politically correct bullcrap and be real.
You literally can not be obese and healthy. Either a) you eat a lot and will have health problems or b) you have some condition that makes you gain weight, which means you're still "not healthy"
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[quote=TrueAtheist]Well I think OP's point is that obesity is the leading cause of health problems in the U.S., being underweight/anorexic isn't. Therefore obesity deserves more attention.[/quote]
i know, i was just joking around
[quote=TheZigen]What about us underweight folks
#NoMoreThighGaps[/quote]
Well I think OP's point is that obesity is the leading cause of health problems in the U.S., being underweight/anorexic isn't. Therefore obesity deserves more attention.
[quote=LamboRev]I'm considered obese according to BMI. My blood work tells me I'm healthy though?[/quote]
BMI is not really accurate to determine obesity.
I'm considered obese according to BMI. My blood work tells me I'm healthy though?
[quote=Ruew]February, close enough
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2867717/
OT: i agree that obesity is a huge drain on our health care system and that people owe it to themselves to lose some weight. No one is saying you have to look like a body builder but at the very least, be like 10-20 pounds over weight instead of 100+[/quote]
Exactly. You don't need to be ripped. Just not be obese.
[quote=LiliKoby][url=http://new2.fjcdn.com/comments/I+m+fat+and+fat+acceptance+is+the+biggest+load+of+_f3169a76ebef412eece4c0658009a53f.jpg] basically this [/url][/quote]
living the dream
[quote=xFaceIess]Didn't know that such a movement existed until it was mentioned earlier today.
I don't know why people come to think that being obese is healthy.Sounds pretty ridiculous. o.o[/quote]
Some people refuse to face reality
[quote=WindowLegs]@Xreniya: i am not supporting the fat movement... nor am i fat O.O[/quote]
oh haha i wasnt talking to you
not "you" as in windowlegs
"you" as in fat ppl who get in others faces about fatness
i'm sure you're fine ^^
@Xreniya: i am not supporting the fat movement... nor am i fat O.O
[quote=2005chuy]Didn't you already make this thread a few weeks ago[/quote]
February, close enough
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2867717/
OT: i agree that obesity is a huge drain on our health care system and that people owe it to themselves to lose some weight. No one is saying you have to look like a body builder but at the very least, be like 10-20 pounds over weight instead of 100+
[quote=WindowLegs]but it is selfish of them to die from being unhealthy and cause unnecessary grief. =(.
They know that eating 15 large meals a day will kill them, yet they continue to do it.[/quote]
of course, the kind thing to do would be to gently rebuke/admonish them and try to get them to stop. they cant stop eating or start exercising without some sort of stimulus, either external or internal. since it clearly won't be internal cause they're not doing jack shift, it'll have to be external -- from us.
but you know what
i dont care
if you're part of this fat acceptance movement and you're an sjw and you attack other people
and you want to justify your laziness and get on everybodys back for not "accepting" how obese and ugly you are
go ahead do it keep being fat and then die see if i care
[quote=Xreniya]i think if people are too lazy to be healthy then thats their own problem
we should let them die by their own hand, through obesity or otherwise
plus if theyre ugly nobody will want to have kids with them anyways so no more fat kids running around
win win[/quote]
but it is selfish of them to die from being unhealthy and cause unnecessary grief. =(.
They know that eating 15 large meals a day will kill them, yet they continue to do it.
Didn't know that such a movement existed until it was mentioned earlier today.
I don't know why people come to think that being obese is healthy.Sounds pretty ridiculous. o.o
[quote=LiliKoby]Those of us with common sense must band together
@Hwabithrower: what a naive lil boy -sniffs-
I partially blame tumblr and social media for a huge part of making this movement worse
[url=http://new2.fjcdn.com/comments/I+m+fat+and+fat+acceptance+is+the+biggest+load+of+_f3169a76ebef412eece4c0658009a53f.jpg] basically this [/url][/quote]
have you seen an example of the "fat acceptance" movement in your own, everyday life? no you've seen it on tumblr or reddit or some other site
i think if people are too lazy to be healthy then thats their own problem
we should let them die by their own hand, through obesity or otherwise
plus if theyre ugly nobody will want to have kids with them anyways so no more fat kids running around
win win
Most people don't care about being healthy
Didn't you already make this thread a few weeks ago
We should turn basilmarket into a fat people hating site
Those of us with common sense must band together
@Hwabithrower: what a naive lil boy -sniffs-
I partially blame tumblr and social media for a huge part of making this movement worse
[url=http://new2.fjcdn.com/comments/I+m+fat+and+fat+acceptance+is+the+biggest+load+of+_f3169a76ebef412eece4c0658009a53f.jpg] basically this [/url]
[quote=Hwabithrower]you do understand this whole "fat acceptance" thing doesn't really exist in real life, right? no one is going around telling people it's healthy to be fat, but regardless, it's rude as hell to reprimand people you don't know on their life choices.[/quote]
Actually, it does exist.
The issue in this context is likely the generalization between the measures being taken to encourage seeking assistance and persisting with working on fixing the issue and marketing to a previously untapped goldmine of a demographic.
Due to Obesity's cultural stigmatization in the western world, amongst other things, the public has a tendency to associate anything having to do with the assistance of those afflicted by the disease with the marketing specifically targeted to the demographic, likely as means for profit.
"Empowerment" for any demographic is extremely profitable if applied correctly.
[quote=Hwabithrower]you do understand this whole "fat acceptance" thing doesn't really exist in real life, right? no one is going around telling people it's healthy to be fat, but regardless, it's rude as hell to reprimand people you don't know on their life choices.[/quote]
Fat acceptance is akin to saying "oh, you're developing liver failure from drinking? ignore the haters and be you!"
wow for once its not a thread by @0kevqn
you do understand this whole "fat acceptance" thing doesn't really exist in real life, right? no one is going around telling people it's healthy to be fat, but regardless, it's rude as hell to reprimand people you don't know on their life choices.
[quote=UAPaladin]You still visit this site? How's medical school going?
Anyway, contrary to popular belief, this isn't just a problem in the US. The UK and Australia also have very high obesity rates (not as high as the US, but still pretty close). I don't think people actually believe that being obese is healthy; people just simply don't care about the effects of it enough. I think the mentality toward fat shaming comes from the fact that the fat is actually part of your body, as opposed to smoking or drinking being something external. I feel like what should be done is not shaming someone for being fat, which would be similar to shaming someone for having lung cancer or cirrhosis (shaming of the result instead of the root of the problem), but we should, for lack of a better word, shame them for their eating habits which are the cause of their obesity. Unfortunately, the mentality is already ingrained in obese people that shaming of their eating habits is the same as shaming their obesity, but I'm not sure what to do about this to be honest. They need to understand that others are trying to help them lead a more healthy life rather than trying to attack them. One thing that would definitely help, to a certain degree at least, is more publicization of the negative effects of obesity. That at least should help with making people care more about the effects of obesity.[/quote]
I still occasionally browse haha. School's hard.
And I couldn't agree more. Our society deems smoking as a filthy habit and excessive drinking as a filthy habit, but we still try to help the people who do it. We need to deem excessive eating as a filthy habit too.
You still visit this site? How's medical school going?
Anyway, contrary to popular belief, this isn't just a problem in the US. The UK and Australia also have very high obesity rates (not as high as the US, but still pretty close). I don't think people actually believe that being obese is healthy; people just simply don't care about the effects of it enough. I think the mentality toward fat shaming comes from the fact that the fat is actually part of your body, as opposed to smoking or drinking being something external. I feel like what should be done is not shaming someone for being fat, which would be similar to shaming someone for having lung cancer or cirrhosis (shaming of the result instead of the root of the problem), but we should, for lack of a better word, shame them for their eating habits which are the cause of their obesity. Unfortunately, the mentality is already ingrained in obese people that shaming of their eating habits is the same as shaming their obesity, but I'm not sure what to do about this to be honest. They need to understand that others are trying to help them lead a more healthy life rather than trying to attack them. One thing that would definitely help, to a certain degree at least, is more publicization of the negative effects of obesity. That at least should help with making people care more about the effects of obesity.
anyone who doesn't agree with this is a delusional idiot.
Can someone explain how people believe this crap?
What about us underweight folks
#NoMoreThighGaps