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Help me with my team

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February 3, 2012

17 Comments • Newest first

aznseal

I got to rank 50 now...

Reply February 5, 2012
aznseal

Scarfed landorus is kind of one dimensional though and still loses to ice shard. I kind of want to try virizion over Breloom.

Reply February 5, 2012
Aophex

@aznseal: Well I'd use Landorus as your scout, he can use the extra speed for late game sweeps and can outspeed those pesky dragons you've been talking about...He should be able to kill Haxorus with Earthquake after SR, and with Sand Force he'll be able to utilize Stone Edge to take down Dragonite and Salemence, not to mention a stronger Earthquake.

At the same time, his 101 speed outspeeds all dragons in the Meta even after one Dragon Dance. So I'd reccomend Landorus scarfed.

Reply February 4, 2012
aznseal

@Aophex: I considered doing that. If i added Uturn, what would you replace? And Mammoswine is interesting, but he's weak to bullet punch so i'm somewhat hesitant on using him.

Reply February 4, 2012
Aophex

You ever think of starting with a sort of U-Turn lead rather than setting up right off the bat? That way you can scout movesets before actually pulling the finishing sweep. For your Dragon problem you really should grab a Mamoswine. It takes down all the Dragons after Stealth Rocks bar Haxorus with Ice Shard.

Reply February 4, 2012
aznseal

@Renicade: I had nite over gross for a point, but being neutral to bullet punch and weak to ice shard kind of killed it

@superawasome: Dig is terrible >_> they'd just switch to an immune pokemon. If i was to run Arcainine, I'd probably do something like Flare Blitz, Extreme Speed, Thunder Fang, Morning Sun. But it doesn't offer my team anything.

Reply February 4, 2012
aznseal

[quote=Player1]@aznseal: I would rant for all of them except for maybe Garchomp. And what I also don't understand is that they banned Drizzle+Swift swim but they didn't ban Sandstream + Sand rush. It's much more reasonable than shoving Excadrill in a rain dominant metagame... then they try to argue that the ground type is good in rain...[/quote]

The SS+Rain ban wasn't because of speed. It was the fact that rain gave pokemon like Kingdra double speed in combination with STAB and rain boost. Sand doesn't boost the attack of Excadrill and sun doesn't give stab AND weather boost to Venusaur/sawbuck/etc.

Reply February 4, 2012
NiceGuys

@aznseal: thats the only bad thing. THE ONLY ONE!

Reply February 4, 2012
aznseal

@NiceGuys: Fear is terrible due to the omnipresence of stealth rocks and spikes.

Reply February 4, 2012
Braviary

Most of your team is weak to grass types, and there are no fire/bug/whatever type Pokemon that can defeat them. You Tyranitar has Fire Blast, but that is just one move.

Reply February 4, 2012
NiceGuys

a FEAR set would always win.

Reply February 4, 2012
aznseal

[quote=Player1]I don't think their guides are bad. They're actually pretty good. I just hate their rules and bans.[/quote]

I think Banning excadrill, garchomp, and thunderus was going overboard but i do feel Swift Swim+Drizzle and Blaziken was justified.

Reply February 4, 2012
aznseal

@audio: I realize SmashPassing is a high risk/high reward strategy, but it's really fun and it fits my play style. With that in mind, I accept that i'll get screwed over by whimsiscott and just try to make smash passing as competitive as possible. And yeah, BU Breloom is NASTY.

@superawasome: What would i replace for Arcannie. The most replaceable member is probably Tyrannitar, but then i'd loose out on rocks.

@Hwang1: Because it's always good to have multiple opinions. And Landorous has very few "hard" counters. Brozong is probably the best against non smack down versions due to resisting EQ, Stone Edge, and having HP Ice. Skarmory can tank hits but can't really do anything back. Gliscor can beat non HP Ice versions. Starmie can check Landorous if you have a way of getting it in safely.

@Player1: Subseeding wouldn't fit my team's play style. Subseed Breloom is probably one of his best sets IMO, but it doesn't fit on hyper offense.

Reply February 4, 2012 - edited
audio

first problem with team: smashpass
if you want a team with which you can actually win consistently then don't use smashpass. it's dumb/situational and you basically have to get lucky to pull it off. not worth it

although i will add that contrary to what people itt are saying, bulk up breloom is actually pretty cool and can work well with the proper team support

Reply February 4, 2012 - edited
aznseal

[quote=Renicade]Bulk up Breloom... just no.
Bounce Espeon doesn't work as a baton passer, just use both shields since it's supposed to be switched around.
Next you're using Tyranitar, but you only have 1 guy that benefits from it. I don't think that's worth it.
For shell smash, I would suggest Cloyster over Gorebyss, it's more versatile and has great defense.
I think a Ferrothorn would benefit your team.[/quote]

Cloyster can't baton pass shell smash lol. Espeon also serves as the middle-man incase Skarm or other phazers switch in. And Ttar isn't to benefit my team as much as it is to screw over enemy tales and toads.

@thedylan: I thought about it, but then i realized I have shell smash for the speed.

Reply February 3, 2012 - edited
thedylan

I'm agreeing with Renicade with a Bulk Up Breloom is just no..

I suggest you put a choice bander or scarfer. You have none at all. I run a scarfed metagross and throw people off a lot.

Reply February 3, 2012 - edited
loe151

Bro Smogon is junk make your own teams and make them original.

Don't be boring like all the rest.

Edit: I forgot I had this shop of stuff lololo
http://www.friendcodes.com/forums/trade-center/179420.htm

Edit2: Here is one of my main teams along with my Trick Room Team. I came up with the stuff myself. I recommend coming up with a cool strategy on your own.
http://www.friendcodes.com/forums/rate-my-team/170884.htm
http://www.friendcodes.com/forums/rate-my-team/179869.htm

Reply February 3, 2012 - edited