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@archm0onl: Let's hope so. Nice vid btw, thanks for the share.

[quote=funkyflame]
If I don't cap 100% with 20k int / 260% boss after this update im f***ing done.
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you do cap.

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXqbCWRSO4k][/url]

this is me hitting damage cap on hell gollux without elemental reset and all other buffs. I have 21k int and 280%boss, pretty sure u can cap with that stats after the update.

BM is the top explorer now i guess

@avihai133: Yeah -.- ugh. @Madzda Truth

[quote=funkyflame]@madzda: Well, training in for example SDH, you rarely see Chain Lightning hit "max mobs" the range usually cuts off before the max mob count does But yeah maybe a bit better. We'll just have to see. We wont get any of these changes for quite a while still.[/quote]
Yeah I very much know that ;-;
The added mob count should still have __some__ effect though

What we really need is a change to how the lightning bounces - similar to Lumis Reflection.

[quote=funkyflame]Hardly. The issue with chain lightning mobbing was never the monsters hit per attack, it's the fact that the range is quite short. Which I accept, it's otherwise a good skill.

If I don't cap 100% with 20k int / 260% boss after this update im f***ing done.

Either way, the trend for "job balancing" will always and forever be nerfs, don't act surprised. People get nerfed > People want to cap > They spend more money on this game > They cap again > Repeat

We're the idiots who fall for it every single time.[/quote]

they nerf mages as hell, While NL can still 100% cap with like 16k luk?......................

@namesboreme

right now its 50m spamable mist, they reduced mist dmg by like 40% and its not spammable anymore,
before capping was 50m x 9, now its gonna be 70x8 ,harder to cap,5sec cd
so people that could barely cap now before, will do ~30m, and now DOT set up takes even more time to set up

@madzda: Well, training in for example SDH, you rarely see Chain Lightning hit "max mobs" the range usually cuts off before the max mob count does But yeah maybe a bit better. We'll just have to see. We wont get any of these changes for quite a while still.

[quote=funkyflame]Hardly. The issue with chain lightning mobbing was never the monsters hit per attack, it's the fact that the range is quite short. Which I accept, it's otherwise a good skill.

If I don't cap 100% with 20k int / 260% boss after this update im f***ing done.

Either way, the trend for "job balancing" will always and forever be nerfs, don't act surprised. People get nerfed > People want to cap > They spend more money on this game > They cap again > Repeat

We're the idiots who fall for it every single time.[/quote]

I agree that the range is low, and that is the primary issue. But surely having it hit 1 more monster, will increase its effectiveness... I guess it would also depend on how the lightning bounces.

I believe it will hit as many monsters as Lumi Reflection, but Lumi Reflection bounces a lot better...

[quote=namesboreme]Technically, if you hit 70m per line right now (AKA capped at 50, theoretical 70), its a buff...[/quote]
True. Brb robbing people for enough money to fund my maplestory character.

@funkyflame yes, we are the idiots can't really blame nexon when we keep coming back for more.

Alas, I will probably also sell off a few equips for textbook fund ($600). Also need a 280z w/rb26dett swap. May just sell it all!

[quote=madzda]Seems like a buff to mobbing, nerf to bossing.
I like this. But I think the bossing nerf is unwarranted.[/quote]

Hardly. The issue with chain lightning mobbing was never the monsters hit per attack, it's the fact that the range is quite short. Which I accept, it's otherwise a good skill.

If I don't cap 100% with 20k int / 260% boss after this update im f***ing done.

Either way, the trend for "job balancing" will always and forever be nerfs, don't act surprised. People get nerfed > People want to cap > They spend more money on this game > They cap again > Repeat

We're the idiots who fall for it every single time.

[quote=stillllish]Why do I/L mages need a nerf </3 Nerfing mid tier classes </3[/quote]

Technically, if you hit 70m per line right now (AKA capped at 50, theoretical 70), its a buff...

Time to sell my 30%int reinforced ring for $$.
That's going into the textbook fund~

Why do I/L mages need a nerf </3 Nerfing mid tier classes </3

i cri everitim

[quote=goxds]100%->55%*1.5 = 82.5%. endgame bossing was nerfed T_T and Lightning Sphere was nerfed also so wtf[/quote]

still got 10% elemental ignore from traits so its ok

100%->55%*1.5 = 82.5%. endgame bossing was nerfed T_T and Lightning Sphere was nerfed also so wtf

Well, after both this and reboot, I/L damage will be reduced to 70% against bosses with eleresist (outside of lightning orb) compared to its current state. The number of hits per minute goes up significantly though, so if you're godly enough, then its perfectly fine.

Seems like a buff to mobbing, nerf to bossing.
I like this. But I think the bossing nerf is unwarranted.

People with low Mana count.

I think it's complete bullcrap, to be honest. If they do that, they need to adjust bosses as well, or change it from 10% to something at least higher.
Also 50% damage? that's way too OP, we're not asking to be gods, just want to be balanced.

I mean come freaking on, they change aura's MP consumption? who the hell cares about that?

just like the rest mage i think it will be fine and its not final yet.