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Shadower Range to Night Lord Range

So my self-buffed range when I was a Shadower was about 431k. Now that I'm a Night Lord, my self-buffed range is 397.5k. Before, I had a +200 ATT dagger and a +32 ATT shield with 9% ATT. Now, I have a +185 ATT claw with 3% LUK and a secondary weapon with +5 ATT and 6% LUK (no ATT %). Both ranges are with top fifty dojo gloves. Is this normal? I heard Night Lords had a higher weapon multiplier, so I had assumed my range would stay the same or go up.

Edit: For reference, a dagger's damage multiplier is 1.3x while a claw's damage multiplier is 1.75x.

August 3, 2014

11 Comments • Newest first

Voxous

Shadowers also get another 25% from coin flip when fully stacked. (5)

Reply August 5, 2014
BlazinBlood

[quote=TripleBladez]It does, but Shad's also have 25% Total Damage from B-Step's passive effect, so they essentially have 25% more Total Damage than NL's. They also have 160 Attack in total from their skills vs. 100 Attack in total for NL's.[/quote]

Oh okay, thank you. I didn't realize Shadowers received a range boost from Boomerang Step because it didn't appear like it when I was leveling up the skill.

Reply August 4, 2014
TripleBladez

[quote=BlazinBlood]Does the +25% damage from Expert Throwing Star Handling add to a NL's range? That's the same amount of damage % that Flip of the Coin gives.[/quote]

It does, but Shad's also have 25% Total Damage from B-Step's passive effect, so they essentially have 25% more Total Damage than NL's. They also have 160 Attack in total from their skills vs. 100 Attack in total for NL's.

Reply August 4, 2014
Thomie96

It is added to your range. Though NLs have Dark Harmony which is 40 att, Shadowers have Instinct and Karma which is 80 att total. They also get more att from other skills like shield mastery which is 15 att? Even if you added in Poison star, 30 att, its only for 30 seconds which is not very useful. When I was a shadower, my clean to fully buffed range was almost 1.5x what it was clean. As an NL, I only gain about 60~70k from the 2 buffs we have.

Reply August 4, 2014
BlazinBlood

[quote=HappyTraderr]Also, I think NL's only have 1 damage buff(Not including the poison star), and Flip The Coin gives a hell of a boost to your range.[/quote]

Does the +25% damage from Expert Throwing Star Handling add to a NL's range? That's the same amount of damage % that Flip of the Coin gives.

Reply August 4, 2014
Voxous

night lords and dual blades have a range that is naturally much lower than shadower. I have gone between all 3. Dual blade and Night lord are roughly the same when equally funded. A shadower stands around 40k+ stronger due to buffs. Shadowers are also the harder class to play though, having so many buffs to manage and micromanaging attacks to get the most out of your range.

Reply August 4, 2014
HappyTraderr

Also, I think NL's only have 1 damage buff(Not including the poison star), and Flip The Coin gives a hell of a boost to your range.

Reply August 4, 2014
cRogue

it's not a damage multiplier, it's an attack multiplier so since your NL weapon and secondary have bad pot they need that ATT% to get high range

Reply August 4, 2014
BlazinBlood

[quote=Lecarde]Of course your range is lower, you are missing a lot of attack with your current equips compared to your old ones[/quote]

I'd thought the attack multiplier difference would make up for it. Maybe it's just the 9% ATT I'm missing?

Edit: Attack multiplier, my bad.

Reply August 3, 2014 - edited
Lecarde

Of course your range is lower, you are missing a lot of attack with your current equips compared to your old ones

Reply August 3, 2014 - edited
SpiritBag

nls dont have as good damage buffs as shads

Reply August 3, 2014 - edited