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kMS v.1.2.240 Dpm Charts

https://itzdarkvoid.wordpress.com/2015/09/09/kms-v-1-2-240-boss-dpm-chart/

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Note: This is DPM not hits per second. This probably reflects bang for your buck more

September 11, 2015

29 Comments • Newest first

Lecarde

@vivabasura: So then whats the point of teh chart? It isn't relevant here because we haven't received Reboot, and it isn't relevant in KMS apparently....

Reply September 12, 2015
VivaBasura

[quote=lecarde]@vivabasura: Evans just got their elemental reset lowered to 10%, so you can ignore that.

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i know.. thats why im my first post im already celebrating a bam rise after elemental mages get that nerf but we cant ignore it on this topic because this dpm chart is various patchs before that change

Reply September 12, 2015
Lecarde

@vivabasura: Evans just got their elemental reset lowered to 10%, so you can ignore that.

@forevernl: Yes, but they won't beat us by that much after their nerf

Reply September 12, 2015
healer55

@star909: The "low dps classes" actually hit pretty hard but less hits per second due to higher survivability or some great % damage on their main bossing skill. kaiser transformed will hit more damage until you hit X damage. Also you should realize the top classes are for the top 1% of maplers the ones that can fund to 2m-2m and this chart has no relevance to them. This chart is specifically for people that want to judge the damage difference between the classes and what matters the most is how much effort you put into your class.

Reply September 11, 2015
closetoshady

Kinda lame Shades are next to bishops and don't have the number of lines to compensate too

Reply September 11, 2015
Axnslicer

[quote=vivabasura]breaking news evans hit their full damage on the important bosses unlike NLs, i think ure ignorant about elemental reset classes, ofc capping NLs will be stronger than evans but thats not what DPM is about
yeah a chart is never fully accurate but by only taking in account elemental decreases it makes it one of the best dpm charts, ive never seen another chart that includes this important factor[/quote]

That's half of why the top chart feels so wonky. It's factoring in mage elemental ignore which effectively doubles F/P, I/L, Evan, and BW dps. It's also post-massive nerfs to the Zero class, which explains why they've fallen so far. Most people will find the bottom chart to be more familiar, since the majority of dps charts don't factor in elemental ignore.

That being said, from an overheard perspective we can see that the weakest class Kinesis is scaled at 100% and the second strongest class (excluding questionable outlier F/P) is around 220%. So the strongest classes in the game are only at most twice as powerful as the weakest. That's impressive balance considering there are 30 some classes.

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
ForeverNL

[quote=lecarde]This is one of the worst DPM charts I have ever seen. Evans are scoring higher than NL? NW completely blow NL out of the water even after their nerf? I don't think so. Someone just threw numbers on a chart man[/quote]

What are you talking about? NW will always out dps a NL.
Oh and also this chart means nothing to players who already cap. You can deal 9999999999% damage x5 lines per second, but still limited to the 50M cap. That's the reason why F/P's are on top. This chart is 100% accurate, you guys are are confusing a chart for hits per minute and damage per minute.

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
Star909

[quote=healer55]lol @ people saying this dpm chart is wrong, you guys said that about others one too.[/quote]

Some people don't believe that low dps classes should be at the top? Idk, F/P being at the top (twice even) just seems off. What seems off to me is that there's specifics like; 2h sword, Snipe hitting max damage etc. I don't see how those should be taken into consideration except maybe att speed for the 2h sword, and usually that can be differed by +1 inner and DSI. I also put into question how final transfiguration is above normal kaiser, but that may be because KMS doesn't have it being held back? That doesn't make sense since most Kaisers in KMS don't use transfiguration except when DR comes into question, even then kaiser majesty is usually used first.

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
healer55

lol @ people saying this dpm chart is wrong, you guys said that about others one too.

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
Star909

Edit: nvm I'm wrong

Either way this DPM chart seems off.

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
VivaBasura

[quote=lecarde]This is one of the worst DPM charts I have ever seen. Evans are scoring higher than NL? NW completely blow NL out of the water even after their nerf? I don't think so. Someone just threw numbers on a chart man[/quote]
breaking news evans hit their full damage on the important bosses unlike NLs, i think ure ignorant about elemental reset classes, ofc capping NLs will be stronger than evans but thats not what DPM is about
yeah a chart is never fully accurate but by only taking in account elemental decreases it makes it one of the best dpm charts, ive never seen another chart that includes this important factor

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
tangy132

I could be wrong, but this chart seems like an unfunded DPM chart. I'm more interested in a max damage DPM chart.

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
Lecarde

This is one of the worst DPM charts I have ever seen. Evans are scoring higher than NL? NW completely blow NL out of the water even after their nerf? I don't think so. Someone just threw numbers on a chart man

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
VivaBasura

well bams seem decent and we gonna climb even more after ele reset gets slaughtered
i thought by casting finishing blow alone we would be at the very bottom

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
GoXDS

[quote=thetornado]I trained my I/L mage last week and I feel like it's way better casting Frozen Orb once and maintaining the stacks with Glacier Chain since the cast time of Orb is horrible.

OT: YAY 6th, I always believed! [/quote]

however, the dmg is great enough to compensate (especially with properly working Blizzard FA).

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
ArchM0onL

[quote=grawp77]Zero is on pair with Mihile
how sad is that[/quote]

thats the revamped mihile tho

mihile > xenon/phantom/bowmaster

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
grawp77

Zero is on pair with Mihile
how sad is that

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
Bioniclema93

Aran is totally average XD

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
TheTornado

[quote=namesboreme]This is without skill downtime. I/Ls need to constantly cast frozen orb to maintain ice stacks, and the cast time is a full 1.5 seconds (which will also get you killed in most bosses if you're not careful xD) and the duration is 3.5 seconds. So theoretically, you only do 3/4 that much damage...[/quote]
I trained my I/L mage last week and I feel like it's way better casting Frozen Orb once and maintaining the stacks with Glacier Chain since the cast time of Orb is horrible.

OT: YAY 6th, I always believed!

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
Dbenbaruk

[quote=tampons]koreans do not know how to make a dpm chart.[/quote]

But they do know how to make korean bbq mmm

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
Tampons

koreans do not know how to make a dpm chart.

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
Ecarina

Huh, Cannoneers are near the bottom. Like right down there.
Alright then.

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
Dbenbaruk

Where's the play what you like chart?

Sorry guys...I'll go now....

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
Crysteel

Realistically, this chart wouldn't make sense as other factors have to be taken into consideration. It's just taking into account dpm for a completely stationary target that doesn't attack.

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
NamesBoreMe

This is without skill downtime. I/Ls need to constantly cast frozen orb to maintain ice stacks, and the cast time is a full 1.5 seconds (which will also get you killed in most bosses if you're not careful xD) and the duration is 3.5 seconds. So theoretically, you only do 3/4 that much damage...

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
Hydroxide

This chart looks like a bunch of baloney to me

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
kiue

Somehow WH beats other character even with 1st job adv skill

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
Elufu

I can see why the Koreans think they need to keep buffing Mercedes. I'm fine with that. (Would be nice if the blog owner posted the source of the table. Probably insoya.)

Reply September 11, 2015 - edited
jerry5000

i just dont get why F/P is top even with only paralyze

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