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New Dojo Thoughts/Comments

Hey folks, I was able to do the dojo 3 times (max now) and I'll give a few comments.

- potions do not work (haven't tested potion pot)
- mutant snail familiar hp regen doesn'twork
- you deal 10% the dmg you did before
- 15 minutes max to complete before kick
- Bosses at stage 10, 20, 30, and 40 take significantly more time than others
- Hilla stage will do aoe hp% dmg (15% i think) and dmg reflect **binds are useful
- beware of dispels from griffey, dragon dude, and pap
- past a certain stage, bosses begin to double spawn: either you will fight two clones at the same time, or you will kill one and then the second one spawns
- at stage 37, the bird will spawn 3 times

- dojo overall is much harder than before
- shop is very nice tho imo. Takes a while to farm certain things if you aren't funded though (like the chairs)

I recorded two of my runs, but the Windows 10 DVR glitched on me so only 40 seconds were recorded. I'll try to re-record tomorrow

December 16, 2015

28 Comments • Newest first

RisingRain

@carlosdp: You can't really do anything about Cancel or DR, but you can get a Resistance pot to prevent pot lock.
Most classes should be able to get 90%+ if you max out your Cygnus links and Willpower though.

Reply December 19, 2015
I3artman

I wish all the mobs spawned at once for the multiple boss lvls. It would make it fair for mobbing classes.

Reply December 19, 2015
Tiguier

You do 5% dmg on every 10th floors and you are able to use potions every 10 floors as well.

Reply December 19, 2015
iElmo

I cleared it after a few tries on my NW yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl4jo7zusKw

It's a lot more difficult since the clear is very damage-dependent and some bosses do certain things. It's a bit annoying that the boss spawn indicator was removed. The points shop is pretty underwhelming for the effort...

Reply December 19, 2015
Genostigma

Semi fun and interesting. Manage top 3 on my main class.

Reply December 18, 2015
GarrettsHot

@raiden: dude i did this on ark but i didnt know how to get back down so i left

Reply December 18, 2015
zander145

Didn't know about the dmg cuts, wouldnt say I'm funded, doing 80~120k per line on hilla demotivated me. Then she DR while I was charging up my dragon gauge and death followed soon after. I'll try again after I have more funds...

Reply December 18, 2015
ProDualite

@modsaredumb: New dojo is sure based on skills like when to time DR, how to avoid each boss attack. But it is largely based on your equips and damage more than ever. First, your damage get cut by 90%, so you are only doing 10% of your original damage, then damage will be cut even further on strong elemental resist monster like stage 40 Magnus. For example, if you were doing 2-3m per line in prior Dojo, you would be hitting 200-300k per line, on boss like Magnus you would be hitting 80-180k per line. Second, and all the bosses HP get boost 10x more than before. Third, some bosses can you DR, Defense up, and all other curse skills. Fourth, 15 mins is the new time limit, instead of the old Dojo 25min-30mins. Basically, new dojo is based on your equips more than ever. This is the first time where people normally doing 50-55m damage to all bosses on the game will only see themselves doing 7-10m damage,(more damage when your equips are super godly OP. This is where those 30k+ stats, 300%+ boss damage equips will shine). New Dojo is extremely harder than before, you see many people who can solo Cvellum with ease have some hard time clearing all 41 stages of the new Dojo.

Reply December 18, 2015
carlosdp

Anyone have tips on how to get past ark faster? like he is always WEP cancel, DR, and pot lock I average like 4-5min on him just waiting...

Reply December 17, 2015
RisingRain

@tzukyrie: Nope. Your damage just gets cut by 90%.
I find it easier to imagine if you were killing outside of Magnus' blue aura.
Multiply that damage by about 2 for most bosses in the tower (minus the bosses at floor 10/20/30/40/41).
I think the bosses each have a little bit of PDR now though (in KMS it was 50% across the board).

Reply December 17, 2015 - edited
Tzukyrie

Does pdr play an effect on the damage reduction?

Reply December 17, 2015 - edited
David0696

Dojo should be done in a competitive environment so whether or not you can finish it is irrelevant since everyone is on the same playing field, even more so than before because of the "500m" damage cap. When I say everyone is on the same playing field, I mean that it is a funds race where your character's strength is measured. No, I cannot even finish dojo with 20k STR and 380% boss but I cannot complain because just because I am weaker than others. I am not entitled to enjoy finishing the entire run.

Reply December 17, 2015 - edited
Locust

It's actually kinda fun. Though i only do 5m/line compared to my 50m but this makes me remember the good ol days when i couldnt finish dojo LOL.

Reply December 17, 2015 - edited
Raiden

You're allowed to heal on the 10/20/30/etc floors against the actual bosses, just on a cooldown. You still can't pot while on the other floors though.

Fun fact, we can Final Toss and reach the 2nd floor. Can't jump back down though, but if you 2x final toss again from the 2nd floor you can bypass the wall and hit ground level again. You can consider it to maybe dodge some attacks while there's DR/Wep Cancel.

Reply December 17, 2015 - edited
trumpet205

Do Aran and Evan character card work on this new dojo?

Reply December 17, 2015 - edited
ChickenSoul

@conceit: I can confirm that potion pot works inside the new dojo.

Reply December 17, 2015 - edited
Lecarde

Taking away all forms of healing and then putting in bosses that deal %dmg attacks?? Why you do dis nexon?

Reply December 17, 2015 - edited
carlosdp

Frigin ark wasted 3 minutes for me. Wep cancel every 10 secs

Reply December 17, 2015 - edited
KamikazeDes

The 10% damage reduction is tough, but some of the bosses having ele resist makes it even more ridiculous.

Reply December 16, 2015 - edited
Rianael

@conceit: Darn. Arans have such a low MP pool too. I guess an Evan card is going to be necessary.

Reply December 16, 2015 - edited
Sheritin

Highest in Reboot so far is hilla. The 90% damage reduction really hurts lol.

Reply December 16, 2015 - edited
Lamato

tfw can only get up to floor 37
tfw no hurricane

Reply December 16, 2015 - edited
Conceit

@rianael: Familiars may be summoned, but their effects do not work. Mutant snail did not work for me.

Can someone test if potion pot bypasses the lock?

Reply December 16, 2015 - edited
Rianael

Can you still heal MP with familiars by spamming them?

Reply December 16, 2015 - edited
Conceit

@rachelll: yay thanks for the specific info rachel. I was too lazy to dig it out Still kind of sad I only made it to 3x ani. I'm defs not even close to finishing doddo, lily, lyka, mag, and mu gong

Reply December 16, 2015 - edited
Rachelll

@wall: Or you can purchase an overdrive ring (tower ring that lets you ignore DR and cancel wep)

OT:
As for the HPs:
(Name) (HP) (HP in mils)
Mano 2600000 2.6
Mushmom 2870400 2.8704
Stumpy 3153600 3.1536
Blue Mushmom 3465000 3.465
Zombie Mushmom 3774600 3.7746
King Slime 6171000 6.171
Dyle 6961500 6.9615
King Clang 7552500 7.5525
Faust 8423400 8.4234
Hilla 500000000 500
Metal Golem 13608000 13.608
Eliza 15134850 15.13485
Jr. Balrog 16197750 16.19775
Nine Tailed Fox 18450000 18.45
Deo 20533500 20.5335
Zeno 22707000 22.707
Timer 26280000 26.28
Snack Bar 30003750 30.00375
Tae Roon 32634000 32.634
Von Leon 50000000 50
Papa Pixie 43512000 43.512
Alishar 53046000 53.046
Lord Pirate 63450000 63.45
Deet and Roi 80808000 80.808
Frankenroid 135168000 135.168
Chimera 165680000 165.68
Poison Golem 198832000 198.832
King Sage Cat 235392000 235.392
Crimson Balrog 274752000 274.752
Arkarium 1000000000 1000
2xManon 527060000 527.06
2xGriffey 631630000 631.63
2xSnowman 744000000 744
2xPapulatus 866230000 866.23
2xAni 996660000 996.66
2xLeviathan 1137750000 1137.75
3xDodo 1287440000 1287.44
3xLilynouch 1618740000 1618.74
3xLyka 1992960000 1992.96
Magnus 2000000000 2000
Mu Gong 2000000000 2000

You fight all one after another except for levi and lyka

Reply December 16, 2015 - edited
ModsAreDumb

Oh so it's player skill based now? If so I'm very happy

Reply December 16, 2015 - edited