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the dark metamorphosis skill

When I reached level 70 i chose the dark metamorphosis skill book. Was that a bad choice? I have heard that it is glitched somehow.
And according to the guide found here on basilmarket I should max it pretty early. Should I still do it?
If not what should I max instead? How is the skill glitched?
And if it is okay I would also want to ask what I should do now that I am level 120? A PQ or grind somewhere? What do you recommend?

January 24, 2012

14 Comments • Newest first

croowl

I did put 5 points in methamorphosis to be able to use the mastery book.

Reply February 4, 2012
Fusion09

[quote=vPurpleish]Ok i have a off topic question if someone can please answer..
I already chosed Dark Metamorphosis as my free mastery when i hitted 70 like a long time ago
And it ends on the 12th, but im almost 120 i just want to know should i put 5 in metamorphosis and use the mastery book to get it to 30 in 100% chance?[/quote]

i would like to know this too

Reply January 30, 2012
sumyounguy

[quote=archopath]That may be true, though this might conclude to how the player plays their demon slayer, funding, and the commonplace where they're usually at.
I'm aiming to hit 200 before doing anything else on my ds, which allows me to max every skill except obsidian which will be left at level 28.
reason why i'm leaving it at 28 is that the 1% less damage i will be receiving with max skin is not better than having 10% more damage on concussion.
Other players may prefer to max obsidian before concussion, there's nothing wrong with that, though I feel if I capped obsidian first, it would be pointless
since everything I train on does very, very minimal damage, nothing that leech aura can resolve.
Having maxed concussion, however, allows me to take down high hp mobs such as castle golems with ease, especially with max rage activated, in a glitched castle golem map where the skill hits monsters on 2 platforms, faster than spamming demon cry.[/quote]

To each their own. I believe in survivability before anything else. I'm not a big fan of concussion anyways.

Reply January 29, 2012
archopath

might as well

Reply January 29, 2012
archopath

[quote=sumyounguy]@archopath: It makes a huge difference. Considering that our M def is good but not that high we still take significant magic damage from bosses. I still take around 800+ damage at czak and when 1/1ing me I'm taken down to 500 ish HP with level 1 obsidian. After playing my paladin and having achilles on my drk and then losing achilles, you feel how significant an achilles like skill is.[/quote]

That may be true, though this might conclude to how the player plays their demon slayer, funding, and the commonplace where they're usually at.
I'm aiming to hit 200 before doing anything else on my ds, which allows me to max every skill except obsidian which will be left at level 28.
reason why i'm leaving it at 28 is that the 1% less damage i will be receiving with max skin is not better than having 10% more damage on concussion.
Other players may prefer to max obsidian before concussion, there's nothing wrong with that, though I feel if I capped obsidian first, it would be pointless
since everything I train on does very, very minimal damage, nothing that leech aura can resolve.
Having maxed concussion, however, allows me to take down high hp mobs such as castle golems with ease, especially with max rage activated, in a glitched castle golem map where the skill hits monsters on 2 platforms, faster than spamming demon cry.

Reply January 29, 2012
sumyounguy

@archopath: It makes a huge difference. Considering that our M def is good but not that high we still take significant magic damage from bosses. I still take around 800+ damage at czak and when 1/1ing me I'm taken down to 500 ish HP with level 1 obsidian. After playing my paladin and having achilles on my drk and then losing achilles, you feel how significant an achilles like skill is.

Reply January 29, 2012 - edited
archopath

[quote=sumyounguy]That's the point of having obsidian. It's to keep a good chunk of HP after 1/1. If you haven't noticed how useful that is at high tier bosses, it's game changing.[/quote]

Idk if obsidian actually lessens 1/1's effect,but i've never been brought down to 1/1 by any boss on my DS before. I've never come across any boss that did lethal damage to me so far. I've done every boss except empress. So yeah I haven't noticed. Still level 1 obsidian skin.

EDIT: level 10 obsidian skin now, doesn't feel any different.

Reply January 29, 2012 - edited
sumyounguy

[quote=archopath]Just because its glitched. you cant question why, it just is.
what happened is its not giving the effects as it says so in its description.
The damage bonus doesn't work, it DOES give you bonus HP, and the autoattacking orbs doesn't work, which is why its broken.
You wouldn't want 20% more hp when the monsters you train on literally do 1 or 2 damage on you.

Idk what other people are doing but level 1 obsidian works fine for me when bossing.
Maxing it first only lessens the already low damage bosses do, while the only thing you'd have to worry about is 1/1.
soo.. 14% less of 1k~3k most isnt really that much compared to seeing archers and thieves scurry away after getting hit by crits from concussion.[/quote]

That's the point of having obsidian. It's to keep a good chunk of HP after 1/1. If you haven't noticed how useful that is at high tier bosses, it's game changing.

Reply January 29, 2012 - edited
archopath

[quote=games400]Ok all of u guys posting never answered the question on WHY IS DARK METAMORPHOSIS IS GLITCHED?
What the hell happened that made is so bad to max out in the first place?
answer the damn question WHY?[/quote]

Just because its glitched. you cant question why, it just is.
what happened is its not giving the effects as it says so in its description.
The damage bonus doesn't work, it DOES give you bonus HP, and the autoattacking orbs doesn't work, which is why its broken.
You wouldn't want 20% more hp when the monsters you train on literally do 1 or 2 damage on you.

[quote=sumyounguy]Obsidian is for bossing which most people are doing at the level where you start putting points into it.[/quote]

Idk what other people are doing but level 1 obsidian works fine for me when bossing.
Maxing it first only lessens the already low damage bosses do, while the only thing you'd have to worry about is 1/1.
soo.. 14% less of 1k~3k most isnt really that much compared to seeing archers and thieves scurry away after getting hit by crits from concussion.

Reply January 29, 2012 - edited
sumyounguy

[quote=archopath]Having max def. kinda defeats the purpose of obsidian. Infernal kills squishies in pvp pretty fast.
Not to mention spamming this with Rage activated on a glitched bw/golem map does beautiful damage to upper and lower platforms (golems)[/quote]

Obsidian is for bossing which most people are doing at the level where you start putting points into it.

Reply January 29, 2012 - edited
archopath

[quote=sumyounguy]Wut. Infernal before obsidian? Uh obsidian is by far more useful than infernal concussion.[/quote]

Having max def. kinda defeats the purpose of obsidian. Infernal kills squishies in pvp pretty fast.
Not to mention spamming this with Rage activated on a glitched bw/golem map does beautiful damage to upper and lower platforms (golems)

Reply January 29, 2012 - edited
sumyounguy

[quote=archopath]What to max in sequence with explanation and feedback (Dark Metamorphosis Glitched):
Barricade > (1 sp to all skills except mw) > Demon Impact > Demon Cry > Dark Metamorphosis OR Binding Darkness > whichever you didn't pick between the previous two skills > Rage > Leech Aura > MW if you passed books > Infernal Concussion > Obsidian Skin

Explanation:
1.Barricade: simply increases your attack range and effectiveness in dealing damage, thus making it most beneficial since it applies to every skill.
2.Add 1 sp to all skills except MW to grasp the concept of being a Demon Slayer
3.Demon Impact: One will most likely be training in LHC, put this skill to good use by dealing the most damage to mobs of 2~3. mobs of 4+ you will want to use Carrion Breath on
4.Demon Cry: Adds variation to training, works like threaten with extra exp bonus and a wider range. Best used on Kenta PQ and Dragon PQ for eliminating mobs.
5.Dark Metamorphosis or Binding Darkness: This one is debatable. Provided that GMS will notify players that they will fix the Dark Meta Glitch, DARK METAMORPHOSIS WILL BE YOUR TOP PRIORITY SKILL TO MAX. Otherwise, the bonus 3k hp it provides is just extra bulk, also making it a non-priority skill. Since the bug has been acknowledged, a fix might be in order soon. Hold off on adding SP at this point if you don't plan on grinding 10+ extra levels to max either skills out. If you are, Binding Darkness would be a better logical choice, at least for now.
6.At this point, everything you need to be a successful demon slayer will be maxed out. Maxing Rage and Leech aura provides better utility on using Demon Slayer Skills and how to deploy them on different situations. (PQ's, Grinding, Boss runs, PvP) Maxing Rage results to a lower cooldown, longer infinite force sustained, extra dps burst to mobs/bosses, while maxing leech only provides longer buff duration, anyone can live off level 1 leech aura.
7.Anything you'd like to add on, by the time you reach this point, you probably already know what you want to do with your demon slayer.

If Dark Metamorphosis would be fixed in future patches, here's the sequence:
Dark Metamorphosis > Barricade > (1 sp to all skills except mw) > Demon Impact > Demon Cry OR Binding Darkness > whichever you didn't pick between the previous two skills > Rage > Leech Aura > MW if you passed books > Infernal Concussion > Obsidian Skin[/quote]

Wut. Infernal before obsidian? Uh obsidian is by far more useful than infernal concussion.

Reply January 29, 2012 - edited
archopath

What to max in sequence with explanation and feedback (Dark Metamorphosis Glitched):
Barricade > (1 sp to all skills except mw) > Demon Impact > Demon Cry > Dark Metamorphosis OR Binding Darkness > whichever you didn't pick between the previous two skills > Rage > Leech Aura > MW if you passed books > Infernal Concussion > Obsidian Skin

Explanation:
1.Barricade: simply increases your attack range and effectiveness in dealing damage, thus making it most beneficial since it applies to every skill.
2.Add 1 sp to all skills except MW to grasp the concept of being a Demon Slayer
3.Demon Impact: One will most likely be training in LHC, put this skill to good use by dealing the most damage to mobs of 2~3. mobs of 4+ you will want to use Carrion Breath on
4.Demon Cry: Adds variation to training, works like threaten with extra exp bonus and a wider range. Best used on Kenta PQ and Dragon PQ for eliminating mobs.
5.Dark Metamorphosis or Binding Darkness: This one is debatable. Provided that GMS will notify players that they will fix the Dark Meta Glitch, DARK METAMORPHOSIS WILL BE YOUR TOP PRIORITY SKILL TO MAX. Otherwise, the bonus 3k hp it provides is just extra bulk, also making it a non-priority skill. Since the bug has been acknowledged, a fix might be in order soon. Hold off on adding SP at this point if you don't plan on grinding 10+ extra levels to max either skills out. If you are, Binding Darkness would be a better logical choice, at least for now.
6.At this point, everything you need to be a successful demon slayer will be maxed out. Maxing Rage and Leech aura provides better utility on using Demon Slayer Skills and how to deploy them on different situations. (PQ's, Grinding, Boss runs, PvP) Maxing Rage results to a lower cooldown, longer infinite force sustained, extra dps burst to mobs/bosses, while maxing leech only provides longer buff duration, anyone can live off level 1 leech aura.
7.Anything you'd like to add on, by the time you reach this point, you probably already know what you want to do with your demon slayer.

If Dark Metamorphosis would be fixed in future patches, here's the sequence:
Dark Metamorphosis > Barricade > (1 sp to all skills except mw) > Demon Impact > Demon Cry OR Binding Darkness > whichever you didn't pick between the previous two skills > Rage > Leech Aura > MW if you passed books > Infernal Concussion > Obsidian Skin

Reply January 29, 2012 - edited