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where did you ptut it anyway

[quote=fradddd]@Kratospie: Oh I get it. So since Dark Knight's have a drain skill skill anyway, we'll pretty much always be hitting a total of 422%*8, or at least 400%*8.[/quote]

Not exactly =P the damage formula for gungnir works like this

(insert range here) x 3.12 (gungnir) x 3.6 (all your multipliers on a boss) x 1.5 (reincarnation)

Mine for example would be 100,000 x 3.12 x 3.6 x 1.5 which equals 1,684,800 per line of gungnir on a boss with 0% defense, no physical resist, not factoring critical hits.

@Kratospie: Oh I get it. So since Dark Knight's have a drain skill skill anyway, we'll pretty much always be hitting a total of 422%*8, or at least 400%*8.

[quote=Kratospie]It works off of your HP ratio like Cross Over Chains. For example, if your hp is full (100% HP) the damage dealt is increased by 110%. If your hp is at half (50% hp) the damage dealt is increased by 55% etc.
Not sure how exactly this stacks/scales with Cross Over Chains and Reincarnation's Passive total damage buffs.[/quote]

pretty sure he's suggesting i add said info to the guide, good suggestion at that.

so far it seems that crossover and gungnir are additive, while reincarnation is multiplicative

[quote=fradddd]Explanation of how Gungnir Spear works with your HP.[/quote]
It works off of your HP ratio like Cross Over Chains. For example, if your hp is full (100% HP) the damage dealt is increased by 110%. If your hp is at half (50% hp) the damage dealt is increased by 55% etc.
Not sure how exactly this stacks/scales with Cross Over Chains and Reincarnation's Passive total damage buffs.

@BornNew: ah very nice, thank you very much. will be a bit annoying to keep up, but nothing otherworldly

[quote=darkspawn980]5 base
30 from lord of darkness
10 from reincarnation
20 from reincarnation hyper
10 from hyper crit rate

where did you get the last 10%?[/quote]

My mistake, I was thinking Post-RED. The extra 10% would be from Hex of the Beholder. Right now the max you can get just from DrK skills is 75%/

@darkspawn980: he got the last 10% from beholder's buff

Explanation of how Gungnir Spear works with your HP.

[quote=Kratospie]At level 198, as a DrK you will have 85% crit. So to get 100% you'd need either a level 2 phantom link skill or at least 15% crit from inner abilities.
There was an Event in KMS that came with RED where if you get a new adventuer up to level 130, you get the Adventurer Dark Critical Ring; +3 AllStats, +300 MaxHP&MP, +3 Weapon & Magic Attack, 15% Critical Rate and 5% Minimum Critical Damage. Tradable within account once.

You can't get 100% Defense Ignore anymore, as it stacks multiplicatively Post-Unleashed.[/quote]

5 base
30 from lord of darkness
10 from reincarnation
20 from reincarnation hyper
10 from hyper crit rate

where did you get the last 10%?

[quote=aznstyles]Like uhh list of ways to get 100% pdr/crit and stuff like that through links and stuff[/quote]

At level 198, as a DrK you will have 85% crit. So to get 100% you'd need either a level 2 phantom link skill or at least 15% crit from inner abilities.
There was an Event in KMS that came with RED where if you get a new adventuer up to level 130, you get the Adventurer Dark Critical Ring; +3 AllStats, +300 MaxHP&MP, +3 Weapon & Magic Attack, 15% Critical Rate and 5% Minimum Critical Damage. Tradable within account once.

You can't get 100% Defense Ignore anymore, as it stacks multiplicatively Post-Unleashed.

@darkspawn980: Well no, the "just for you" part was the (:O) face, since I know how much you LOVE that. I'll do my best to try and get it on video later today @ reincarnation + sacrifice.

Ways to get 100% crit in red:
5% base crit
30% Lord of Darkness
10% Beholder's Buff
10% Reincarnation
20% Reincarnation - Critical Rate (Hyper Advanced skill lvl 189)
10% Hyper Critical (Hyper Passive skill lvl 198)
10% Lvl1 Phantom Skill link; 15% Lvl2 Phantom Skill link; 20% Lvl3 Phantom Skill link
10% Explorer's Critical Ring or 5% Explorer's Cruel Ring
1%~30% Inner Ability Critical Rate; 1%~10% Crit Epic Ability, 11%~20% Crit Unique Ability, 21%~30% Crit Legendary Ability [b]*need confirmation on ranges for each tier[/b]
4%~8% Nebulite on weapon; C neb 4%, B neb 5%~6%, A neb 7%~8%
10% Decent SE
Tier 1 weapon(10-30); R 1%, E 2%, U 3%, L 4%
Tier 2 weapon (31-70); R 2%, E 4%, U 6%, L 8%
Tier 3 weapon (71+); R 3%, E 6%, U 9%, L 12%

Like uhh list of ways to get 100% pdr/crit and stuff like that through links and stuff

@darkspawn980: I'm blind

>repeat all over again in red

[quote=Plusle4eva]@Darkspawn980: I can happily edit if you'd like me to, to alleviate the bad engrish bit.[/quote]

yea, i plan to give the link to the guide (i'll remove it from above, so it won't be seen in the forums) and once i'm done with it, or with certain parts, it can be spellchecked.

@Darkspawn980: I can happily edit if you'd like me to, to alleviate the bad engrish bit.

@lazershock: considering it's information that is going towards the guide, it can't be "just for me", just saying :U

and if you could get the reincarnation extra time on video, that'd be boojangles (on that line, the sacrifice too if possible)

Definitely needs a tips and tricks section for all the special tricks you can do with certain inner abilities =P

That reminds me, my friend who plays KMS tells me that Reincarnation is infact affected by buff duration, MOAR INVINCIBILITY! I'll be able to see it for myself tomorrow when I go see him for confirmation. Maybe describe the specifics of how drain works (i.e: Drain is able to proc once per mob, per attack, but will attempt to proc on every line, on every mob) some recommended macros, thats about all I have right now, if I think of anything else i'll let you know... and just for you Shinku (:O)

[quote=darkspawn980]@trinidad: those are already on the current guide, will just get moved.[/quote]Welp, that answers my question.

@singaporean: considering it's on the DrK section, your assumption is correct.

@icedemon9: y u do dis 2 me? D:
being serious though, i don't think it's possible, nowadays there's waay too many equips that could be considered "endgame", and the cost of each varies greatly between servers, getting a domi pendant might be hell in bellonova while it's relatively easy and cheap in scania. not to mention with new class releases prices might go up and down, right now PA's are pretty cheap, but imagine if we do get bandwagoned with red and the bosses still don't drop fafnir gear? faf PA's would shoot up in price with empress remaining somewhat affordable still.

@silentxynh: i just went over your build and it's pretty much exactly what i had thought, you even went the step and beyond and calculated how much attack would be required for mastery to be better, so yea. i'll add a disclaimer along the way of "this is the best training build, you're free to dump a point in reincarnation early on, if only to see the horns, and to prove your DrK-ness, and to put a point in gungnir if just to mess with it or try your lich status" or something

@trinidad: those are already on the current guide, will just get moved.

I enjoyed the humor in this post.

Anyway, FAQs, much like the current guide. I assume you'll be including these anyway, but since that wasn't explicitly on your list, I thought I'd say it just in case.

[quote=trinidad]the pros and cons of spear and polearm[/quote]That doesn't change at all, post-Red, does it? I wouldn't think it would, but I haven't exactly been following the updates.

Also, where's Tobago?

the pros and cons of spear and polearm

I had the hyper build posted somewhere, will upload and PM the link to you, alongside the post-RED build we agreed on.
Happy to do the math for the builds if you need me to.

That lazy, not that lazy but still lazy drk.

Gl with the gui----equip suggestions for the certain tiers of investing on a drk!

Best of luck

EDIT:

Assuming you're talking about a DRK guide so correct me if i'm wrong.