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Thanks Nexon

Thank you for your report. This account was locked after it was detected to be involved in meso transactions with known botter accounts. Normally, these types of locks are permanent but, after reviewing this account's history, the admins have decided to show leniency and provide this account with another chance.

Therefore, this account has now been submitted to be unlocked by our account admins. We advise that you wait up to 1 hour before attempting to log on in order to allow the system to fully process the changes they will make.

Please keep in mind that such leniency is not granted freely, and that if further violations are found, sanctions that are much stricter can, and will, be placed on this account. That being said, welcome back!

Regards,

GM Kryndax

Can't believe how happy I was to recieve this <3 <3 <3
I was also perma'd to begin with by buying like 5k spell traces. never doing that again. CRUSADE COINS HERE I COME

August 15, 2015

16 Comments • Newest first

Kiirori

@cxter: i think vpn solves that issue, what i want to know is if nexon can put restrictions on computer IDs, pretty sure Osu does that.

Reply August 16, 2015
GreatBolshy

[quote=megascience]@greatbolshy: If Nexon bans each person as they find them, the rest quickly catch on that they've been found out and go into hiding until the 'coast is clear.' By banning in large batches - marking up each exploiter - they catch many more of them. Unfortunately, some players get caught in the middle of this. It isn't easy to tell who knows the items are duplicated across so many players, but seeing as he was unbanned in such a context, this was a precautionary ban which most exploiters would not dispute and therefore would be lifted for legitimate players doing so. It explains the wording. Yes, not good banning legitimate players, but I can see how buying a stack of spell traces is odd considering the events are giving so many at the moment.

Nothing against you, @dawnemperor, just explaining why spell traces might have been why you were a target, but also why they backed off.[/quote]
as i said, they're honeypotting the accounts. i've heard a few stories from friends, alli members and basilers recently about spell traces being a no buy zone because of the bans. if nexon were to be waiting to ban all of the botters in batches, how would that be more effective than banning them as they see them? if they ban the accounts in batches, they'll probably get a larger amount of spell traces than they'd find if they regularly banned accounts. BUT, they're also letting way more spell traces be released into the market between these ban batches among a mountain of other problems. it should be completely unacceptable to let legit players get caught in the middle of this. how would nexon confuse the legit players and bots? they'd either have to be incompetent or it would have to be intentional. if you have access to account logs and see that someone bought 5k spell traces from a bot, why would you think the person that bought the spell traces had anything to do with the botting? does the gm think there's some spell trace laundering happening? rofl. nexon hasn't been a company that cares much about their legit player base. just a week ago artasi OPENLY WARNED the dupers to sell their products to legit people because they'd be deleting the products soon.

Reply August 15, 2015
IkumiChan

@bobr: We'll just have to agree to disagree about it being easy. I already sent you a PM on the matter.

Reply August 15, 2015
BobR

[quote=ikumichan]Slow them down? Yeah, by about 2 minutes after each IP ban to obtain a new address.[/quote]

It's not that easy. A lot of the urban myth about "ipconfig /release /renew" and "unplug your modem overnight" is just that- urban myth.
And using IP relays isn't all that easy either. All Nexon has to do is block known VPNs, and keep adding new ones as they appear and that eliminates a big percentage.
Of course there will always be some obsessed few who take it as a challenge to "bypass the man", but they could at least make it harder than it is now.
Nexon won't do it because it might block an NX sale or two.

Plus they could limit new account creation by requiring a phone number to make an account and cross-checking to be sure they're not being re-used.
And yeah, yeah, I've heard all the excuses why that would never work.
It would work, but same reason why they won't do it.

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
IkumiChan

[quote=bobr]You can slow them down by restricting account creation.
Nexon won't do that because it might cost them 10 cents in NX sales.[/quote]

Slow them down? Yeah, by about 2 minutes after each IP ban to obtain a new address.

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
Cxter

Nvm lmao the post above me pretty much says it all

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
BobR

[quote=ikumichan]You do know they can easily hide/change their IP address right?[/quote]

You can slow them down by restricting account creation.
Nexon won't do that because it might cost them 10 cents in NX sales.

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
IkumiChan

[quote=cxter]Put a limit on how much acc you can make per IP address[/quote]

You do know they can easily hide/change their IP address right?

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
Cxter

[quote=kiirori]they do ban botters, en masse, but they just make more accounts. what's nexon supposed to do.[/quote]

Put a limit on how much acc you can make per IP address

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
ElNath

Gratz!

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
Kiirori

they do ban botters, en masse, but they just make more accounts. what's nexon supposed to do.

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
MegaScience

@greatbolshy: If Nexon bans each person as they find them, the rest quickly catch on that they've been found out and go into hiding until the 'coast is clear.' By banning in large batches - marking up each exploiter - they catch many more of them. Unfortunately, some players get caught in the middle of this. It isn't easy to tell who knows the items are duplicated across so many players, but seeing as he was unbanned in such a context, this was a precautionary ban which most exploiters would not dispute and therefore would be lifted for legitimate players doing so. It explains the wording. Yes, not good banning legitimate players, but I can see how buying a stack of spell traces is odd considering the events are giving so many at the moment.

Nothing against you, @dawnemperor, just explaining why spell traces might have been why you were a target, but also why they backed off.

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
GreatBolshy

i like how nexon tries to act all high and mighty like they're the saviors of the world. "we decided to be lenient to you because we're basically god" is what i got out of that. "known botter accounts" also gets me. it may be known to nexon that the account owner is a botter, but do they expect everyone on the game to know each botters igns? also if it's a known botter why the hell are they honeypotting the account to ban the legit people when they could get rid of the problem at the source instead? jesus christ is nexon trying to meet some ban quota? rofl

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
LuizEvilx

so nexon bans people who buy from known botters, but not the known botters? hahahahahah 10/10

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
MegaScience

If you keep up with events, you should get all the spell traces you need. :o Just to say how you can get more. The events dump tons on you.

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited
GlobalKorean

Congratulations!

Welcome Back to Maplestory!

Reply August 15, 2015 - edited