Sweetwayer Hat, how rare is it?
Hi guys, I'm going for the SW set, and i'm wondering how rare the SW hat is? Or is there any way i could simply find one? Help appreciated thanks!
If you're wondering about the set effect:
Included in the set: Hat, Overall, Gloves, One weapon, Cape, Shoes
2 Set effect:
ALLSTATS+25
W/M.ATK+20
3 Set effect:
ALL STAT+75
W.M.ATK+35
4 Set effect:
ALL STAT+95
W/MATK+ 48
5 Set:
Defense and blah
6 set:
30% BOSS
i want to get up to the 3rd set at least, maybe even 4 we'll see, any easy/cheap way to get these items? mainly hat?
January 31, 2014
10 Comments • Newest first
@FunkyFlame:
No problem XD
[quote=TheBaldAran]@FunkyFlame:
Oh its no problem! And yes, you need both a tyrant cape/shoe and a SW to transpose it. Just make sure youre okay with the amount of enhancements that the Tyrant has before you transpose then you're golden. However, the SW Tyrant becomes bound to your account (if you PSoK it before hand, you can trade it ONCE), so make sure youre okay with that too. Have fun gearing up [/quote]
Okay cool ^^ Thanks a bunch!
@FunkyFlame:
Oh its no problem! And yes, you need both a tyrant cape/shoe and a SW to transpose it. Just make sure youre okay with the amount of enhancements that the Tyrant has before you transpose then you're golden. However, the SW Tyrant becomes bound to your account (if you PSoK it before hand, you can trade it ONCE), so make sure youre okay with that too. Have fun gearing up
[quote=TheBaldAran]Overall, any SW drop from the bosses have been pretty much been nerfed to oblivion. Most of the ones that you see floating around the FM are just leftovers from when SW equipment (mostly weapons, the armor was still relatively rare) dropped a LOT more often. If you want to buy a hat, or any other SW armor sans the gloves, they run for about 1.2b~1.7b on Scania, while the gloves go for around 3b~4b (its not uncommon to see a SW glove bought for 3.5b or more). The SW set is very expensive compared to the CRA set, and you do lose out on both tyrants and dojo gloves... however, theres a way to have your cake, and eat it too. Generally speaking, a good alternative for the SW set would be to do a hybrid set of CRA and SW.
Since you only need 4 out of the 6 SW equips to get the best part of the set, the crazy stats, you can go with the SW cape, boots, weapon, and gloves (you can substitute/arrange them however you want, but this combination seems to work for me the best) and get a CRA hat, top, and bottom. This way, you get the 195 all stat and 95 att from the 4 piece SW set, as well as the 20 main/sub stat and the 50 att from the RA set. Plus you have the advantage of having both a top and bottom, resulting in more potential than an overall would offer, as well as the extra PDR ignore that the RA armor offers. However, you do lose out on the 30% boss damage at the end which can either be a big deal or pretty negligible, depending on how much boss % that you have, and if you chose to stick with the gloves, you also lose out on dojo gloves. However, you can also [b]transpose tyrants[/b] which makes this build very viable as well. Since enhancement and scrolled stats transfer over, you can tack on even MORE stats onto the SW set this way so essentially its like having both SW and tyrants at once. However, once you do this, you can't get any more tyrant like stats from enhancing the "Sweetened Tyrants" after you transpose, so you need to be content with the stats of your tyrant before transferring over. You also lose the base stats of the tyrants themselves, however, I find that the SW set makes up for it, and the fact that you can use a tyrant from any class (using a bowman to transpose vs a thief) makes it much more cost effective as well. There's also tyrant gloves that are coming out with Kritias which are great for transposing to SW gloves.
Overall, if you went with this, your set would look like this (again, you can mix and match):
RA Hat
RA Top
RA Bottom
SW Cape + Tyrant
SW Gloves + Tyrant
SW Shoes + Tyrant
SW Weapon
195 All Stat and 95 Att from SW set
20 Main/Sub Stat and 50 Att from RA set
115+ All Stat +X Att from Sweetened Tyrant Enhancement stats
30% Boss from SW Weapon OR Fafnir depending on what you do
15% PDR(?) From RA Armor[/quote]
Wow thanks mate! Really appreciate this answer! + Points for you! Def. going for this! Finally someone who has a great and straight answer! RA stuff is really cheap now thanks to the marvel machine, have to look around a bit
One quick thing tho', I need both a tyrant and an SW to transpose it into a SWTyrant? Already have tyrant cape/shoe so that's nice
Thanks again!
Overall, any SW drop from the bosses have been pretty much been nerfed to oblivion. Most of the ones that you see floating around the FM are just leftovers from when SW equipment (mostly weapons, the armor was still relatively rare) dropped a LOT more often. If you want to buy a hat, or any other SW armor sans the gloves, they run for about 1.2b~1.7b on Scania, while the gloves go for around 3b~4b (its not uncommon to see a SW glove bought for 3.5b or more). The SW set is very expensive compared to the CRA set, and you do lose out on both tyrants and dojo gloves... however, theres a way to have your cake, and eat it too. Generally speaking, a good alternative for the SW set would be to do a hybrid set of CRA and SW.
Since you only need 4 out of the 6 SW equips to get the best part of the set, the crazy stats, you can go with the SW cape, boots, weapon, and gloves (you can substitute/arrange them however you want, but this combination seems to work for me the best) and get a CRA hat, top, and bottom. This way, you get the 195 all stat and 95 att from the 4 piece SW set, as well as the 20 main/sub stat and the 50 att from the RA set. Plus you have the advantage of having both a top and bottom, resulting in more potential than an overall would offer, as well as the extra PDR ignore that the RA armor offers. However, you do lose out on the 30% boss damage at the end which can either be a big deal or pretty negligible, depending on how much boss % that you have, and if you chose to stick with the gloves, you also lose out on dojo gloves. However, you can also [b]transpose tyrants[/b] which makes this build very viable as well. Since enhancement and scrolled stats transfer over, you can tack on even MORE stats onto the SW set this way so essentially its like having both SW and tyrants at once. However, once you do this, you can't get any more tyrant like stats from enhancing the "Sweetened Tyrants" after you transpose, so you need to be content with the stats of your tyrant before transferring over. You also lose the base stats of the tyrants themselves, however, I find that the SW set makes up for it, and the fact that you can use a tyrant from any class (using a bowman to transpose vs a thief) makes it much more cost effective as well. There's also tyrant gloves that are coming out with Kritias which are great for transposing to SW gloves.
Overall, if you went with this, your set would look like this (again, you can mix and match):
RA Hat
RA Top
RA Bottom
SW Cape + Tyrant
SW Gloves + Tyrant
SW Shoes + Tyrant
SW Weapon
195 All Stat and 95 Att from SW set
20 Main/Sub Stat and 50 Att from RA set
115+ All Stat +X Att from Sweetened Tyrant Enhancement stats
30% Boss from SW Weapon OR Fafnir depending on what you do
15% PDR(?) From RA Armor
@FunkyFlame: Ypu might be able to pass off Grosso polpo v2
I killed him with something along the lines of 90% boss 100% and 150k~ range
But now they doubled his hp and you have double my range soo maybe
[quote=FlamyHeavens]I'm not quite sure could you list boss & PDR?
You can kill V1 Grosso defs and probably v2 grosso if you have enough boss & pdr but I'm sure about livy[/quote]
85% PDR and 80% BOSS.. Hmm, I guess i'll have to try it out x)
[quote=FunkyFlame]Okay, could I kill it on a 201 I/L with 350k range?
Thanks.[/quote]
I'm not quite sure could you list boss & PDR?
You can kill V1 Grosso defs and probably v2 grosso if you have enough boss & pdr but I'm sure about livy
[quote=FlamyHeavens]None of them are "easy" unless you are very very strong and can kill v2 levy
Then you can just do daily runs until they drop
which is also very very hard since the drop rate is almost none existent
Go for gloves Hat and overall
the equips cost alot and their drop rate is small so it's not even easy[/quote]
Okay, could I kill it on a 201 I/L with 350k range?
Thanks.
None of them are "easy" unless you are very very strong and can kill v2 levy
Then you can just do daily runs until they drop
which is also very very hard since the drop rate is almost none existent
Go for gloves Hat and overall
the equips cost alot and their drop rate is small so it's not even easy