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GakiNoTsukai

Bind Pool 12/10/2014

I recently started looking into boss binding but does anyone have a more recent Bind pool or know where Shade/Eunwol stands?

Only recent one I could find was from last year :
Group 1: Demon Slayer, Demon Avenger, Luminous, Dawn Warrior, Ice/Lightning Archmage, Kanna's Hyper Bind
Group 2: Paladin, Xenon
Group 3: Kanna's Binding Tempest

Is this one still correct? If so, in theory you could prevent bosses from buffing 100% with 2x Kannas and a Paladin. 80s of immobility and 42s of buff cancelling/prevention with proper Kanna rotation.

*Edit* So as of Dec 10 2014

Group 1: Demon Slayer, Demon Avenger, Luminous, Dawn Warrior, Ice/Lightning Archmage, Kanna's Hyper Bind, Shades (Thanks @xcoldshadowx), NW (Thanks @wingless666)
Group 2: Paladin, Xenon
Group 3: Kanna's Binding Tempest

0 December 11, 2014

16 Comments • Newest first

stevenman76

@Lecarde: I mean theres a huge range and control difference between needing 2 binders, and being able to solo. If youre at the range and control where you can only use binders, then youll take what you can get

Reply December 11, 2014
GakiNoTsukai

Thanks for the response guys, too bad Shade and NW's are in grouping one. To add :

1) Why the different groupings - Because if you try and use a bind from the same group (pool) the enemy resists it unless there's been 60s inbetween bind attempts. So the earlier statement about 45s "cooldown" is semi correct as most binds last roughly 20s.

But this still means that 1 Paly + 2 Kanna's basically perma debuff if rotated correctly.

@GazimoEnthra - I'll never be able to reach pro status =[, I can however dodge for days =].

Reply December 11, 2014
whiteforce18

@Lecarde: well, the thing is, when you are doing bosses that you can bind (such as hard magnus) having the boss bound as much as possible = difference between a good run and a failed run.

Reply December 11, 2014
Lecarde

@stevenman76: Yea I know about the cd, but I don't see a point in bossing if you are just going to bind him and then hit the boss. Yea you make money but there is no more fun involved. Personally I wouldn't do that unless I was going for a speed run or something

Reply December 11, 2014
Axnslicer

[quote=bblan7787]You cant bind a boss 100% after a bind ends bosses have a 45 second resist to further binding from most other classes.[/quote]

I believe it's 60 seconds.

Reply December 11, 2014
stevenman76

@Lecarde: Because binds go on cd. The more binds you have, the longer the time that youre doing your most dps

Reply December 11, 2014
QuantumLegend

@origeldest Bind skills have cool downs so if you want to bind a boss for a longer time you'll need multiple players binding in succession.

Reply December 11, 2014 - edited
Lecarde

@stevenman76: Oh,that sounds complicated lol and I'm not really sure why you would need more than one bind tbh

Reply December 11, 2014 - edited
wingless666

Nw is in the same tier as shade

Reply December 11, 2014 - edited
stevenman76

[quote=Lecarde]Could someone explain to me what these different groups are?[/quote]

The classes tell you which classes' binds stack, and which don't. Any two classes in the same class DONT stack binds, but classes in different groups WILL stack. This is useful so that you dont have to wait until the bind is off to rebind. (If you dont count the time right, then you might use your bind while the previous one is still on. If youre in the same groups, the second one will do nothing, and it will be a waste of a bind)

Reply December 11, 2014 - edited
Lecarde

Could someone explain to me what these different groups are?

Reply December 11, 2014 - edited
stevenman76

Groups + attacks are: IL + phantom - Freeze breath, DS - Binding darkness, DA - Bloody Prison, Luminous - Armageddon, Dawn warrior - Impaling Rays, Kanna - Veritable Pandemonium
Group 2: Paladin-Smite Shield, Xenon - Entangling Lash
Group 3: Kanna- Binding tempest

Appearently Shade is in group 1. Anybody know where NW belongs?

Reply December 11, 2014 - edited
XcoldshadowX

Shades are in group 1.

Reply December 11, 2014 - edited
bblan7787

[quote=GakiNoTsukai]I recently started looking into boss binding but does anyone have a more recent Bind pool or know where Shade/Eunwol stands?

Only recent one I could find was from last year :
Group 1: Demon Slayer, Demon Avenger, Luminous, Dawn Warrior, Ice/Lightning Archmage, Kanna's Hyper Bind
Group 2: Paladin, Xenon
Group 3: Kanna's Binding Tempest

Is this one still correct? If so, in theory you could prevent bosses from buffing 100% with 2x Kannas and a Paladin. 80s of immobility and 42s of buff cancelling/prevention with proper Kanna rotation.[/quote]

You cant bind a boss 100% after a bind ends bosses have a 45 second resist to further binding from most other classes.

Reply December 11, 2014 - edited
GazimoEnthra

If you have enough dps you don't need to bind.

Reply December 11, 2014 - edited
Trigonometry

I'm also curious about this, but with Night Walkers.

Reply December 11, 2014 - edited