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Brawlers and Maruaders. Well, few days ago I made a brawler. He is currently lvl 54 and apparently, you're not supposed to add any to Double Uppercut, which I didn't know about and maxed it. Is this going to be a problem? This would mean I won't have the Barrel or the HP to MP skills. My friend told me something about not adding Shockwave at 3rd job and add the points into the Barrel and Hp to MP skills but I didn't really understand him. Please and thank you. -JiggaTofu EDIT: Does Buccs/Maruaders out there actually use HP to MP or Barrel? My guesses are, I don't think those will actually be useful in training and what not. EDIT2: Is it better to max out Barrel and HP to MP instead of Shockwave? Or is it better to only max out HP to MP and add 10 points into Shockwave, leaving Barrel at 0.

0 December 29, 2010

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Max everything in 2nd and 3rd job except transform. Even then, you will have 2 extra points.
Reply December 29, 2010
Apparently no one uses DU though I think it's a great move. To compensate for this, I didn't put any in barrel and left CSB at 18. A fair amount of points into double uppercut. Because seriously. It's awesome!
Reply December 29, 2010

[quote=eonpoop]Energy charge for the first point. for the build, oh this was so long ago. I believe it was put charge until you're comfortable. And then blast?[/quote] Alright thank you very much. I got all the answer I need for now. I might come back to this thread when I got more questions.

Reply December 29, 2010

Alright thank you guys for helping me out. Hopefully my Brawler will become a successful Maruader/Bucc currently at lvl 55. 1 last question. What skill should I add the point into when I hit Maruader? Also, what are you supposed to max out first?

Reply December 29, 2010
Doesn't transform give wep atk now? I'd say thats not worthless, lol
Reply December 29, 2010
@eonpoop: Hmm... So pot saveing in 4th job, or faster training in 3rd job. Shockwave can only be used durring Transformation correct? So if my build is to max Transformation last, wouldn't that be a worthless skill since 4th job wouldn't be that far?
Reply December 29, 2010
Double UpperCut is definitely worth maxing. It's nearly spammable post BigBang. Take points out of LOLwave in 3rd and use it to max mp recovery in second job.
Reply December 29, 2010
Heres what to do DONT MAX shockwave Max all skills but dash and double fire and shockwave...
Reply December 29, 2010

Shockwave is the most useless skill ever in my opinion, it may have gotten better post BB, but I wouldn't know because I don't use it... ever. Barrel and Mp recov aren't used very often, but I actually use them once in a while, unlike shockwave. DU is also better and more used then shockwave. So yes, max DU, but maybe put 1 point into shockwave for showing off or something, but then use all other points to max skills in the brawler job.

Reply December 29, 2010

[quote=eonpoop]@carloslam911 When i was in 3rd job, no trainable maps except gallopera had a use for shockwave. MP Recovery, well before it was nerfed, gave more mp than it does now. However, it still heals mp nonetheless. Oak Barrel, with thise wonderful new avoid system, i get hit more than before. So it save pots on the way to zak, ht, etc.[/quote] So Barrel and HP to MP is useful at all times for saving pot money compared to Shockwave, which is only useable at a flat surface correct? Sorry for takeing a while to get it through my head. I'm not really smart as you guys can see lol.

Reply December 29, 2010
@BBD: So since now its only an atk boost, its pretty much same thing as using an attack pot. Hmmm... I guess I'll max that last also.
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BBD

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@Kaiyaki: I barely ever go for mp pots, so for me it would be useless. And you are correct, it isn't really useless, but I found that for me, even after big bang, it wasn't something I needed. I guess it would help, seeing as it would create space in my inventory, but I just feel that I would get too used to it. I maxed my DU though, and it is nice.
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BBD

[quote=Ghetto415]Sounds like a good build. I'm on the same track as you for now. But is it reccomended to max transformation last? Cause the biggest reason I decided to make Maruader/Bucc was for the transformation lol.[/quote] Before BB I loved transform because of the speed boost and the jump boost. Now it is just an Atk powerboost. The problem is that, I still have stew left over the halloween event. So I use that making my transform useless. Even then, if you use normal warrior pots (+12atk) from NLC all you are losting is 8atk. I don't see this as a big deal since when training we are already having an advantage thanks to BB (2 hits ko or less). Of course when it is maxed (close to 4th job), 20atk for almost the whole time training will be amazing. Trans + Dragon move = Love

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

This Is What I Went With For 2nd /3rd Job: [b]2nd Job[/b] HP Boost - Maxed Critical Punch - Maxed Knuckler Mastery - Maxed BackSpinB(l)ow - Maxed Double Uppercut - Maxed, Helpful For Stunning Purposes As Well As Mini Boss Hunting When You Arent 4th Job Yet. Corkscrew B(l)ow - Maxed MP Recovery - 0, Pretty Useful For Some However I Dont Use Many MP Pots During 4th Job. Knuckler Booster - Maxed Oak Barrel - Maxed - Helpful In Certain Situations During 4th Job. [b]3rd Job[/b] Stun Mastery - Maxed Energy Charge - Maxed Brawling Mastery - Maxed, Good Since You'll Be Using Your 2nd Job Moves Include Double Alot During 3rd Job. Energy Blast - Maxed, Because Of This Shockwave Is No Longer Needed. Energy Drain - Maxed, Useful For Mini Bosses (Manon/BF/Etc). Transformation - Maxed, Needs To Be Maxed For Super Transformation At 4th Job. Shockwave - 0 - 10, Skill Is Pretty Useless Not To Mention Slow, Blast Is Better. Even BackSpinB(l)ow Is Better. Roll Of The Dice - Maxed. Thats What I Have On My Bucc And My Newly Made Marauder. My Shockwave Is Lvl 0.

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited
I"m not maxing shockwave in my opinion it sucks. I maxed hp to mp and use it all the time. I rarely need mp pots. And uppercut is so useless for training that I did barrel instead. I'll get barrage at 120 anyways and that's much better.
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[quote=BBD]Why not max Double Upercut O_________o I maxed mine O____________o Yes I used SP reset but when putting the SP back into the book I put it in this order since I saw it most important. (The build I would have picked if I was leveling.) [b]My SP build[/b] [b]First Job[/b] Sommersault Kick Maxed Flash Fist Maxed Bullet Time Maxed Double Shot 1 Dash 0 [b]Second Job[/b] HP Boost Maxed Knuckle Mastery Maxed Booster Maxed Critical Punch Maxed Corkscrew Maxed Backspin Maxed Double Uppercut Maxed Oak Barrel 1 *note I will max this at 3rd job* MP 0 [b]Third Job[/b] (energy build) Energy Charge Maxed Energy Blast Maxed Drain Maxed Dice Maxed Brawling Mastery Maxed Stun Mastery Maxing <--- at the moment I am doing this. Transformation Maxing Last (since it does nothing! Woopdy do for 20atk, but I have potions that do that (or better)!) Shockwave 1 (for showoff) Rest of the points to Oak and MP. If still more than Double Shot (1st job) [b]Summary[/b] All my points I wanted maxed at 2nd job is maxed, everything in 3rd job but shockwave is maxed and that is what I want. Perfect build for me, I like it.[/quote] Sounds like a good build. I'm on the same track as you for now. But is it reccomended to max transformation last? Cause the biggest reason I decided to make Maruader/Bucc was for the transformation lol.

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

Drain helped SO MUCH for me from 80-103 i used like 20 barbs xD i also use 30-40 sorc an hour with mp recovery oak barrel is useful XD i hate walking to latanica and getting hit so much

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BBD

Why not max Double Upercut O_________o I maxed mine O____________o Yes I used SP reset but when putting the SP back into the book I put it in this order since I saw it most important. (The build I would have picked if I was leveling.) [b]My SP build[/b] [b]First Job[/b] Sommersault Kick Maxed Flash Fist Maxed Bullet Time Maxed Double Shot 1 Dash 0 [b]Second Job[/b] HP Boost Maxed Knuckle Mastery Maxed Booster Maxed Critical Punch Maxed Corkscrew Maxed Backspin Maxed Double Uppercut Maxed Oak Barrel 1 *note I will max this at 3rd job* MP 0 [b]Third Job[/b] (energy build) Energy Charge Maxed Energy Blast Maxed Drain Maxed Dice Maxed Brawling Mastery Maxed Stun Mastery Maxing <--- at the moment I am doing this. Transformation Maxing Last (since it does nothing! Woopdy do for 20atk, but I have potions that do that (or better)!) Shockwave 1 (for showoff) Rest of the points to Oak and MP. If still more than Double Shot (1st job) [b]Summary[/b] All my points I wanted maxed at 2nd job is maxed, everything in 3rd job but shockwave is maxed and that is what I want. Perfect build for me, I like it.

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

[quote=nietsrevliS]oh yea no doubt its true that dragon stirke will replace your shockwave attack but leveling a sin [ dont flame me xD ] im kinda a damage person i like seeing high Yellow/orange/pink numbers and thats what max shockwave did for me so when i see my level 100 marauder doing 20k on a shock wave compared to a blast shot doing 12 i feel better xD[/quote] Ahhh I see. Well, I guess it also depends on how far you're planing to get. I'm planing to get to atleast lvl 130 just like my Shadower. Hopefully around lvl 140-150 after getting my Shadower to that lvl.

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited
Can some of you high leveled buccs rate my build? is it good? decent?
Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

What I did was max all 2nd job skills BUT mp recovery(1) and double uppercut(10) 3rd job i did max energy charge max energy blast max brawling mastery max lucky dice and the last 3 are your choice i did trans then drain then stun after you max DU and Mp recovery/oak barrel rest to shockwave

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited
You don't need shockwave. Therefore you add points to double uppercut in late 3rd job. Shockwave is replaced by dragon strike at 120.
Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

[quote=nietsrevliS]its up to you and your playing style to be perfectly honest my marauder build was a max shock wave and transform [actually useful when training at himes] but beside the point you put the points in what you want they are just " the conformed build " or standard build that every chooses[/quote] Hmmm... I guess your right. But according to the guides I read, Shockwave becomes completely useless due to Dragon Strike being stronger. So basically, its either max Shockwave or HP to MP and Barrel.

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

DU is amazing IMO they lowered the cooldown for it and its becoming really useful in training especially with stun mastery this is my build: 1st job Max SSK Max Flash Fist Max Dash 12 Bullet time 2nd job: Max hp increase Max critical Max CSKBLOW Max DU Max Backspin blow- This became spammable so its really good now 0 on barrel and the mp thing Max Mastery and booster 3rd Job: So far.... i'm level 100 Max energy charge Max energy blast Max stun mastery Max dice Max brawling mastery 1 drain- im going to max this 0 Transformation- going to max this later 0 shockwave- im only going to put 21 on it IK this may not be the best build but its efficient for me and yes like the other people said above me dont max shockwave cuz it will be replaced by dragon strike and as for Double Uppercut- i say good job maxing it cuz its pretty good IMO you shouldnt put any thing on barrel or that mp thing...

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited
Take points out of 3rd job from SW for it.
Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

[quote=fp0718]Shockwave is USELESS even at 3rd job. It gets replaced by DS At the end of 3rd job all skills should be maxed and like 1-2 points into shockwave[/quote] Thanks for telling o-o i was going to max it, so now ill max smthing else

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

[quote=fp0718]Shockwave is USELESS even at 3rd job. It gets replaced by DS At the end of 3rd job all skills should be maxed and like 1-2 points into shockwave[/quote] This. Basically I just maxed out everything in second job (i think? gotta recheck) except for the recovery and barrel. found those two useless.

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

[quote=Avalanchies]I don't mean to steal your thread or anything but.. Where did u train at lvl 40 and over o-o?[/quote] I trained at Kerning Square. Those monsters give amazing EXP IMO. Well, my friend just showed me the guide. Apparently, Shockwave gets completely replaced by Dragon Strike so its smart to add the points into the 2nd job skills that you didn't max out earlier. @AlwayzWiffu: So is it smarter to just add the 20 points into Barrel and HP to MP than Shockwave?

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

Shockwave is USELESS even at 3rd job. It gets replaced by DS At the end of 3rd job all skills should be maxed and like 1-2 points into shockwave

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited
There prolly will be more SP resets, dont worry, otherwise just remake the char, its not that hard now since bb :b
Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

[quote=fp0718]I only had 10 in DU Im maxing it and mp recovery with points that would have gone into shockwave. but its not a problem to max it[/quote] Okay, I think I understand it now. Max lvl for Shockwave is 20 correct? That would mean I can add 10 points into Barrel and 10 points into HP to MP by lbl 120 correct?

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

I maxed double uppercut, and im maxing shockwave right now o.o there a good skills Barrell sucks btw, dont put even 1 sp( my opinion)

Reply December 29, 2010 - edited

I only had 10 in DU Im maxing it and mp recovery with points that would have gone into shockwave. but its not a problem to max it

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