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Cmst Already Has Red - Different Red Store

Since there's no CMS sub-forum, I guess I'll post this here. This is also relevant to GMS, as it seems CMS got the same RED update we're getting.

So, as most of you guys know, the RED store in KMS included Miraculous / regular Chaos of Goodness, 10% Clean Slates and 50% 8 att scrolls.
A lot of people expected GMS to receive a similar store, only that today RED hit CMST, and things are a bit different. A member from [URL=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=70361&page=7&p=1201503#post1201503]Southperry[/URL] was able to extract some info about the RED store, and it seems it was altered. The store has 25% 8 att scrolls with 100% boom, 5% clean slates and no Miraculous / regular Chaos of Goodness scrolls.

The thread also mentioned that CMST received KMS' UI, but that might not be relevant to GMS, as we got our own exclusive UI.

Although there's always the chance we won't follow CMS, it seems like CMST go the same RED update we're getting, which includes the following:
1: Adventurer Revamp
2: Zero
3: Commerci
4: Profession Revamp
5: Winter Shops
6: RED shops
7: RED events
8: Spring events
9: UI revamp
10: Soul Weapons

Credit goes to the Southperrians

November 23, 2013

20 Comments • Newest first

GunPowder

@chudi: Take Beryl Hearts for example. Perfect hearts sell for about 2b in Scania. I'd expect the price to be a lot higher if people didn't farm hearts to scroll.

Reply November 23, 2013
GunPowder

[quote=chudi]@Redadin: I have nothing against rewards for hot time, but abusing it, by farming on 20+ accounts is kind of rediculous. They usualyl give prizes during hot times that help us dive into the new content more easily. Unleashed, tempest, big band, ascension we always have gotten coin events with hot time, but now that red has brought one of the greatest thing everybody is prepared to abuse it. Before most people only had around 5 accounts for this kind of thing and it was acceptable, now people are making dozens of accounts a day, and you really want nexon to just accept it? I for one think that with all the complaining we do, we shouldn't resort to this. I think they should just give us CMS hot time items, and add the items to the shop. That way if people want to make 30 accounts, they can do daily coin events 30 times a day.[/quote]

Hey, look at the bright side:
The more people farm ---> More supply ---> Cheaper prices ---> Unfunded players can purchase items.

Reply November 23, 2013
chudi

@Redadin: I have nothing against rewards for hot time, but abusing it, by farming on 20+ accounts is kind of rediculous. They usualyl give prizes during hot times that help us dive into the new content more easily. Unleashed, tempest, big band, ascension we always have gotten coin events with hot time, but now that red has brought one of the greatest thing everybody is prepared to abuse it. Before most people only had around 5 accounts for this kind of thing and it was acceptable, now people are making dozens of accounts a day, and you really want nexon to just accept it? I for one think that with all the complaining we do, we shouldn't resort to this. I think they should just give us CMS hot time items, and add the items to the shop. That way if people want to make 30 accounts, they can do daily coin events 30 times a day.

Reply November 23, 2013
GunPowder

[quote=xXxFoxKingxXx]Somehow I still kind of doubt we're going to get the cms version of the shop, mostly due to gms' population and how common player reaction would go.

Population has been on a decline for a while, it's hopefully going to go up when RED comes, though if we were to get the shop for cms I wouldn't be surprised to see even more people leave, some people were looking for a reason to leave anyway and seeing that "The Big Patch Shop" may have been nerfed would enable even more people to quit.

I'd say if anything RED as a whole is a patch of recovery, recovering from the beating this game has been taking for a short while now, and nerfing parts of it that people have been looking forward to would probably not end well for anyone.[/quote]
I just hope our RED will have enough to offer to make up for the nerfed store.

Reply November 23, 2013
bluebomber24

[quote=xXxFoxKingxXx]Somehow I still kind of doubt we're going to get the cms version of the shop, mostly due to gms' population and how common player reaction would go.

Population has been on a decline for a while, it's hopefully going to go up when RED comes, though if we were to get the shop for cms I wouldn't be surprised to see even more people leave, some people were looking for a reason to leave anyway and seeing that "The Big Patch Shop" may have been nerfed would enable even more people to quit.

I'd say if anything RED as a whole is a patch of recovery, recovering from the beating this game has been taking for a short while now, and nerfing parts of it that people have been looking forward to would probably not end well for anyone.[/quote]

Player reaction? Why?....GMS never promised anything, omly player assumptions have been made. I rarely see them act when the population rises in arms about item shops and etc. If it was otherwise, empress boxes would have had high percentages and the black friday shop would be uber cheap.

Keep in mind that KMS created a new player tier of royalty that broke the game called MEE players. KMS is trying, perhaps failing, to offset that mistake since most ppl that abused MEE already can't rescroll. GMS doesn't have this issue.

Reply November 23, 2013
Powerbomb

[quote=xXxFoxKingxXx]Somehow I still kind of doubt we're going to get the cms version of the shop, mostly due to gms' population and how common player reaction would go.

Population has been on a decline for a while, it's hopefully going to go up when RED comes, though if we were to get the shop for cms I wouldn't be surprised to see even more people leave, some people were looking for a reason to leave anyway and seeing that "The Big Patch Shop" may have been nerfed would enable even more people to quit.

I'd say if anything RED as a whole is a patch of recovery, recovering from the beating this game has been taking for a short while now, and nerfing parts of it that people have been looking forward to would probably not end well for anyone.[/quote]

I'm hoping this is true, especially after Unleashed (god that patch was horrible).

Reply November 23, 2013
xXxFoxKingxXx

Somehow I still kind of doubt we're going to get the cms version of the shop, mostly due to gms' population and how common player reaction would go.

Population has been on a decline for a while, it's hopefully going to go up when RED comes, though if we were to get the shop for cms I wouldn't be surprised to see even more people leave, some people were looking for a reason to leave anyway and seeing that "The Big Patch Shop" may have been nerfed would enable even more people to quit.

I'd say if anything RED as a whole is a patch of recovery, recovering from the beating this game has been taking for a short while now, and nerfing parts of it that people have been looking forward to would probably not end well for anyone.

Reply November 23, 2013
GunPowder

Well, it seems regular Chaos of Goodness didn't make it in to CMST's store as well

Reply November 23, 2013
Redadin

[quote=chudi]I bet people are going to start making threads about why farming accounts is useless now. But in my honest opinion I kind of hope nexon does this for GMS, because all people are doing is abusing the event hot times for scrolls. I really hope nexon makes it to where daily farmers can achieve the most out of this event, and not 1 time loggers.[/quote]

Dude, all this does is just punish everyone.

Why the hell would you want to farm for hours for a 5% clean slate? It's far superior to abuse hot time BECAUSE they go down this stupid path. If the best rewards come from hot time and the event shop gives sub-par things at the same time which do you think people will put more effort into? Making hot time mules ofc.

This is going AGAINST what you think. Lol.

Reply November 23, 2013
GunPowder

I hope more info will be posted soon. I'm really curious about the rest of the store. Need I remind you KMS got regular 50% Chaos of Goodness scrolls?

Reply November 23, 2013
MegaSage

i hope we get the nerfed RED shop that cms got
im too lazy to rescroll my weapon lol

Reply November 23, 2013
chudi

I bet people are going to start making threads about why farming accounts is useless now. But in my honest opinion I kind of hope nexon does this for GMS, because all people are doing is abusing the event hot times for scrolls. I really hope nexon makes it to where daily farmers can achieve the most out of this event, and not 1 time loggers.

Reply November 23, 2013
bluebomber24

So far most GMS originating ideas gets tested in CMST, I assume because we don't have tespia. CMS usually gets the GMS orginating update a few hours after GMS does, which would usually mean GMS technically got it first. Lets see if that same pattern plays out.

At any rate, interesting info. But yea, I have been trying to downplay the hype of RED shop in my guild. I am not sure why, but people like to get hyped up about alot of uknowns only to grab pitch forks and torches to threaten Nexon when they become disappointed. I mean ppl think that Empress and Fafnir will be upgraded to 160 equips equally....really

Reply November 23, 2013
GunPowder

[quote=Redadin]Rightfully so. RED is the boo-boo patch to Unleashed/Unlimited.[/quote]

[b]-Insert level 160 gear here-[/b]

Reply November 23, 2013
Redadin

[quote=GunPowder]While I agree, I have to say that KMS' store was incredibly OP[/quote]

Rightfully so. RED is the boo-boo patch to Unleashed/Unlimited.

Reply November 23, 2013 - edited
GunPowder

[quote=MyKarma]If GMS does take it differently than KMS, there are a lot of people that'll be kind of mad, I mean I've been seeing threads about these 50% +8ATK scrolls for a long time now.

Not only that, but GMS is dying as it is now, I don't think nexon would try something like that, especially not when they're at risk.[/quote]

While I agree, I have to say that KMS' store was incredibly OP

Reply November 23, 2013 - edited
Lecarde

whats comerci?

Reply November 23, 2013 - edited
Redadin

We did technically get the same UI as CMS in unleashed. Our dashboard (thing on bottom of screen) is different is all. So I'm sure we'll get KMS's.

ONE thing I'd like to ask is if CMS got their own survey about the status of the game from a player's perspective. 25% chance with 100% boom is hardly relieving the pay to win issue. Same as 5% clean slates.

Reply November 23, 2013 - edited
MyKarma

If GMS does take it differently than KMS, there are a lot of people that'll be kind of mad, I mean I've been seeing threads about these 50% +8ATK scrolls for a long time now.

Not only that, but GMS is dying as it is now, I don't think nexon would try something like that, especially not when they're at risk.

Reply November 23, 2013 - edited