Sonic the Hedgehog is a bad game, and heres why

And they said Nexon was bad, yeah this proves worse

You want to talk glitches in a game that was full of expectations? here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MWEHwvcnyM

November 13, 2013

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Aiacu

@Copyrighted: Half of those are things you can live with though, things you don't really think too much about as a casual gamer.
Certain things in Maple are unbearable, and it never gets fixed.

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Rorik92

[quote=Copyrighted]@Rorik92: 100% runs? I don't think so because there are certain heart pieces that are locked after trading quest and a replacement is in child gerudo fortress which requires a megaflip, ISG and staircase hover. Also there a like 2 skulltullas that are easily glitched (hyrule castle song storm). Also, playing it over meaning you already know the route which gets rid of many potential glitches.

Also, obviously because of bias, you pointed out the "accidental" encounters in maple but failed to acknowledge the "accidental" encounters in OoT (which are frame perfect) and there are far more "accidental" encounters in glitches than there are in maple. Lastly, many glitches in OoT are overlooked because a person is not aware that it is occuring, an ESS ends after about 10 frames (game runs at 20 FPS) if you don't maintain the same position. There are many negligible clipping that occurs as mentioned earlier and you may say that it didn't "glitch it in any obvious way" but if you apply the same glitch elsewhere in the game, it's a major sequence break (wasteland w/o membership).[/quote]

No not 100% runs, I was not nearly that dedicated =p, and again I'm just saying that I never noticed any bugs in OoT. Doesn't mean there weren't any, just that they were minimal enough to not be an issue. I never ended up somewhere where I wasn't supposed to be, nor did I ever have the game freeze, or get an item before I was supposed to. My only real point is that in my experience I never saw a bug that detracted from the game in the least, that cannot be said of maple.

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Rorik92

[quote=Copyrighted]Actually, even if you play OoT normally, you'll still glitch like hell.
The damage of a crouchstab is the same as the last attack you did. Opening a door too quickly after a cutscene causes an actor glitch (skips the whole bottom of the well and a room in spirit temple). Holding L and Z gets you the golden scale as a child. Holding L while talking to king zora gets you frog eyeball early. Using an ocarina while taking damage can cause more damage Those are simple and are accidentally done on regular runs. Shielding with an object in your hand causes it to drop it with no lag. Invincibility when rolling.

Now all that is caused unintentionally during normal gameplay...

Now play it with the intent to break the game as a person would in maplestory.
bottle dupe, wrong warp, item generation, ability to hover, no delay attack, superslide

But of course, maple has patches and OoT never have and still took 14 years to figure out WW[/quote]

I have beaten OoT 4 different times and never once managed to glitch it in any obvious way, as opposed to maple in which I would accidentally encounter errors and have it crash 1-2 times an hour or so? hardly a comparison there.

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PikeBishop

[quote=xDigiwave]Creator of the game called it's own community stupid and blamed the community for the game being so bad.[/quote]

Nexon, at least, has the courtesy of relegating those kind of words to their employees, whom they make sign impenetrable contracts ensuring their silence.

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Aeronomx

[quote=Copyrighted]Actually, even if you play OoT normally, you'll still glitch like hell.
The damage of a crouchstab is the same as the last attack you did. Opening a door too quickly after a cutscene causes an actor glitch (skips the whole bottom of the well and a room in spirit temple). Holding L and Z gets you the golden scale as a child. Holding L while talking to king zora gets you frog eyeball early. Using an ocarina while taking damage can cause more damage Those are simple and are accidentally done on regular runs. Shielding with an object in your hand causes it to drop it with no lag. Invincibility when rolling.

Now all that is caused unintentionally during normal gameplay...

Now play it with the intent to break the game as a person would in maplestory.
bottle dupe, wrong warp, item generation, ability to hover, no delay attack, superslide

But of course, maple has patches and OoT never have and still took 14 years to figure out WW[/quote]
I played Ocarina just fine, had the gamecube compilation of all the Zelda series, I loved it so much I have it on my phone as well(not the only game titles though). I would personally say it was not a bad game, and it has been mentioned by IGN and metacritic's as one of the best zelda games of all time. As far as gameplay goes it's not an impossible game to play like the video the OP showed. While some of the glitches on Ocarina are done unintentionally, if you are having trouble in the cut scenes then you are glitching the game by talking to navi during them(most likely cause). I personally liked the unlimited milk glitch and early magic meter which came in handy. The game should not even be compared to Wind Waker when it comes to the ui, there were certain limits that were hard to overcome just using a cartridge and limited graphics on the 64, one of them being the huge field.

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ItsTalegas

[quote=Kewk][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rikTiT2OwqQ]You mean this one?[/url][/quote]

Yup, this game. You don't have to do anything to win.

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alanliuis

Loved Sonic Generations

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HorrorsLove

@ox0Shad0w0xo: I remember listening to the soundtrack as an elementary school kid and being like "This game is so cool" and loving Silvers Japanese voice. Then when I was 14 I played it and I said never again.

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ox0Shad0w0xo

@HorrorsLove Haha, I just mentioned sonic 2006 in that "best and worst video games" thread. It was really a let down after sonic adventure 1 & 2 were so good.

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simaini

i loved sonic adventure 2. i love playing with the chao <3

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Kewk

[quote=ItsTalegas]They also made that broken truck racing game from waay back.[/quote]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rikTiT2OwqQ]You mean this one?[/url]

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xDigiwave

@ItsTalegas:

haha yeah.

I saw a video on that game...my god I don't know how that even released.

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Aiacu

[quote=Copyrighted]Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of time

Most broken game in game history. 0 doubts.[/quote]

It's only broken if you try to break it, playing it normally is perfectly possible, without any issues.

Maple on the other hand, you don't even have to try to break it.

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LuckyNinja

[quote=HorrorsLove]Wasn't Sonic Unleashed good? I enjoyed it.[/quote]

I give it a 7/10.
It could have been better.

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Amgame4

[quote=Copyrighted]Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of time

Most broken game in game history. 0 doubts.[/quote]

Seriously, truer words have never been spoken.

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ItsTalegas

[quote=xDigiwave]Thought the video was gona be the war z aka Infestation: Survivor Stories

That game has way worse customer service than nexon.

Creator of the game called it's own community stupid and blamed the community for the game being so bad.[/quote]

They also made that broken truck racing game from waay back.

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JekutoNightra

How is this worse than Nexon?

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xTagg

Sega is secretly Nexon

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HorrorsLove

[quote=ItsTalegas]I completely dislike it for going with "Sonic becoming a werehog" which was stupid to me. [/quote]

I more enjoyed it for the night soundtrack and battle style.

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fun2killu

u is comparing two different things; a cd-based game vs a downloadable game

qurl, u can fix the downloadable game, but how u gonna fix a cd-based game?

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ItsTalegas

[quote=HorrorsLove]Wasn't Sonic Unleashed good? I enjoyed it.[/quote]

I completely dislike it for going with "Sonic becoming a werehog" which was stupid to me.

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xDigiwave

Thought the video was gona be the war z aka Infestation: Survivor Stories

That game has way worse customer service than nexon.

Creator of the game called it's own community stupid and blamed the community for the game being so bad.

I got lucky enough and ended up getting a refund on that game.

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HorrorsLove

[quote=nopaycheck]This is basically why.
But hey, SEGA redeemed themselves from the trainwreck of Sonic 06 with Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations. Nexon on the other hand...[/quote]

Wasn't Sonic Unleashed good? I enjoyed it.

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nopaycheck

[quote=ItsTalegas]The problem with Sonic the Hedgehog(2006) was that it rushed by sega so they can release it on the holidays or something[/quote]
This is basically why.
But hey, SEGA redeemed themselves from the trainwreck of Sonic 06 with Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations. Nexon on the other hand...

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HorrorsLove

[quote=ItsTalegas]The problem with Sonic the Hedgehog(2006) was that it rushed by sega so they can release it on the holidays or something[/quote]

Yeah, this is very true. The game deserved better treatment then it received obviously.

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ItsTalegas

The problem with Sonic the Hedgehog(2006) was that it rushed by sega so they can release it on the holidays or something

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