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Are you really an Atheist?

I've seen a lot of people saying that they were Atheists but... they don't really seem like it. They seem more like Agnostics or Anti-Theists. Same goes for a lot of Theists, they just associate any questioning of religion/God with being Atheist. For those of you that do not know, I'll put the definitions below.

[b]Agnostic[/b]: A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

[b]Theist[/b]: One who believes in the existence of a god or gods.

[b]Atheist[/b]: someone who denies the existence of god.

[b]Anti-Theist[/b]: Antitheism (sometimes anti-theism) is active opposition to theism. *// Meaning that they are are going debate, attack and attempt to take down the ideas of God(s) and organized religion.

Keep in mind that this is not a topic to debate religion/God, this is a topic to inform you of what you actually are. I made this because I've been seeing more and more instances where Anti-Theists are calling themselves Atheists; this has a very negative impact on most Atheists because people start to assume that any/every Atheist is going make an argument about God(s)/Religion when given the opportunity.

May 26, 2011

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Kinshima

[quote=How2Mob]The word "lack" makes it sound like it should be there. For example, "That little boy is lacking vitamin D" or "The little girl is lacking discipline".[/quote]

Sorry if someone has already said this, but the way you worded it sounded as though atheists refuse to believe God exists, as you have not inserted the word "a" before "god".

EDIT: Making it sound as if "it (He) should" exist.

OT: I consider myself an atheist.

Reply May 29, 2011 - edited
Fearless

[quote=PandasFTW]@Fearless: If you believe in any superstition, it means you believe in a higher power that has control over your life or destiny. By believing in karma. you believe in a fair world, where doing bad things will make bad things happen to you.[/quote]

Let's say I believe in the boogey man. Does that mean I'm not an atheist?

Reply May 29, 2011 - edited
holymage

Anti-Theist isn't taht illiuminiti?

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Fearless

Sorry to revive this thread, but I [b]had[/b] to reply to this guy:

[quote=PandasFTW][b]If you believe in karma or any other superstition, you're not an atheist. Just saying;[/b]
I'm agnostic by the way, no one knows if god(s) exist, but also no one can explain what exactly was the Big Bang.[/quote]

WAT. WAT. WUT. WHAT. WHHHATTT. WAT? WUT! WHAT. WHATTTTT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHATTT. I WANT TO KILL MYSELF AFTER READING YOUR POST. WHATTTTT.

Atheist - One who denies the existence of (a) deity/deities

What in the mother smoking hell does that have to do with believe in karma?
[url=http://www.operatorchan.org/n/arch/src/n129753_I_dont_want_to_live_on_this_planet_anymore.jpg]whatt[/url]

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Mysterieuse

I am a Relativist and Existentialism Atheist.
How ever, I believe in Karma. And to the guy who said that if an Antheist believed in Karma is no real Atheist, then I am sorry but you are wrong.
Karma is not a higher being nor a religion itself.
It is the belief you are juged based on your actions you commit throughout your life. You don't need to be religious to belive in this, because I know it from personal experiences.

Reply May 27, 2011 - edited
DuskRaven

Nope, and I never claimed to be one

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UglierBetty

I think this puts a lot of the more outspoken basilers in their places. They all need to see this.

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Leeploper

[quote=virallas]Don't feel sorry. eventually these children whose parents brought them to church 'to build their character' make the decision whether or not to believe in God.
However, I can't blame you for assuming that they are forced into since you never went to church yourself and so don't know this.[/quote]
His assuming is correct. In my case, at least. Been to church every Sunday since I was born. Everyone in my family is uber Christian, if they found out I didn't believe in God... Well, let's just say things wouldn't go to well.

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CrunchBars

Athiest. I don't care about what others think as long as they don't try to force it on anyone else.

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SlashNStab

I am Sadenist
Jokes. o_o

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lindemann

I dont believe in god. However i do believe in the buddha thing called Karma.

Reply May 27, 2011 - edited
GeEmEs

I think the best word to describe me is 'Agnostic'.

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Yanluo

I believe in God, just not yours.

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Abba26

Anti-theists are atheists in almost every case. Of course they call themselves atheists; that is what they are.

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LEGENDairy

I believed I was atheist, then realised I was actually agnostic.

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Fate

I'm a Kerhwinist. The way I figure it is that if there happens to be a deity that I haven't spent time worshiping, and some kind of heaven/hell system, I can simply use my dashing good looks, gentlemans appearance, and large amounts of money to [b]buy[/b] and [b]charm[/b] my way into the most desired section of this life in death.

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plain88

[quote=xXKnuckIesXx]A bit contradicting when you insult me right back. This debate would be a lot better if you actually had any knowledge of the other side at all.... Whoever said anything about existence in the universe? I certainly did not.

@plain88 : Actually there is solid evidence of Jesus Christ performing miracles, such as healing the blind, sick, and paralyzed. This is actually standard education in 7th grade world history. If you actually read my post instead of automatically going against me because you side with non-believers (this is not an insult, it is an appropriate term), you would see that I countered his argument. I don't just throw pathetic insults out there.[/quote]

Lol, so many assumptions. I never stated anything about my religious views, just that your "personal opinion" is clearly a claim that what you said is true. Does saying it is an opinion make it politically correct?

Reply May 27, 2011 - edited
Permafrost

[quote=xXKnuckIesXx]Wow, I thought everyone knew about a place called heaven, whether you believe in it or not. Definitely not in the universe.[/quote]

I don't think I can continue this conversation. Sorry.
It's like arguing with a downs patient or something.

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Permafrost

[quote=xXKnuckIesXx]A bit contradicting when you insult me right back. This debate would be a lot better if you actually had any knowledge of the other side at all.... Whoever said anything about existence in the universe? I certainly did not.[/quote]

Stop being stupid. I think that we all here can assume that god exists in the universe.. so that was kind of pointless.

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plain88

[quote=xXKnuckIesXx]@Permafrost: "Personally..." Maybe you got me, but I do believe that 'personally' is stating your own opinion.

Edit: I see you edited your post... just thought of some extra stuff to pull out of your @ss? Well, I think you need to go outside man, it actually is quite nice. It may take some getting use to but its alright, you will.[/quote]

And you also say that there is evidence of Jesus Christ performing miracles, that people just refuse to believe that there is someone higher up, and then saying that what you said is the truth. And lol at you insulting the other person instead of actually tackling his arguments.

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Permafrost

[quote=xXKnuckIesXx]@Permafrost: "Personally..." Maybe you got me, but I do believe that 'personally' is stating your own opinion.

Edit: I see you edited your post... just thought of some extra stuff to pull out of your @ss? Well, I think you need to go outside man, it actually is quite nice. It may take some getting use to but its alright, you will.[/quote]

Your insults are useless.
Maybe YOU should go and look outside. Realize that there is no proof of any existence of anything in this universe, whether you "personally" believe in it or not.
It's called delusion. I think you might have it.

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Permafrost

[quote=xXKnuckIesXx]Yes, I see you know how to put something COMPLETELY out of context. Bravo.[/quote]

No. That's what you said.
It's easier to believe in god than the big bang.
Fluffed it up with some crap about how "beautiful" the earth is, or how perfect the universe is... when in reality... the earth and the universe are virtual death nightmares.

Reply May 27, 2011 - edited
Permafrost

[quote=xXKnuckIesXx]Agnostic, atheist, whatever you want to call it... eventually you will wonder how you, humans, and the world came to be. Some believe that the world was formed when a dot, no bigger than the period at the end of this sentence, exploded billions of years ago, which we know as the 'Big Bang.' Then later life started to develop from evolution. I must say, it takes a lot of faith to believe in something like that, right? I mean, evolution has never been proven. It does take some faith to assume that that is how this beautiful world came to be. Personally, it is a lot easier to accept that there was a creator that shaped such a perfect earth. I do believe that there was a man known as Jesus Christ you performed miracles on earth.... oh wait... that can actually be PROVEN. Look it up, come at me. Let's face it, people never want to believe there is someone higher than them. Someone who has the power to do anything. That is why today we have all these crazy new theories and religions to come up with a different excuse for existence.

I am no preacher trying to get in your face. I am just stating the truth. You decide what you want to believe.[/quote]

It's easier to believe that a space wizard created man from his rib and the entire universe from nothing in 7 days and can do magic.. he's the most loving thing in the universe but will send you to an eternal stay in a lake of sulfur if you don't like him.
Hmmm, sure man. Keep on believing in this crap.

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Permafrost

secular humanist.
i am my own god.

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Leeploper

[quote=Eeveepony]I consider myself Atheist. I don't exactly care if someone believes in God or not, as long as they respect others. I just can't bring myself to believe in one.[/quote]
I'm exactly the same as you. The other day though I got into a discussion with guildies, and they said that wasn't an athiest. All these different terms confuse me.

Reply May 27, 2011 - edited
andrewtsia

I believe in [b]myself[/b]

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Satellite

People should stop saying that "Atheists are actually Agnostic". It is more like [b]"Agnostic are actually atheists"[/b]

In Atheism, "I don't know" is a good answer, because [b]that is exactly how it is.[/b] I assure you that as soon as there is empirical evidence for God, most Atheists will believe in it. The thing is that we are (more or less) sure that there won't be. As in, we don't believe that way. There is different types of Atheism, Agnostic people seem more like practical atheists to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#Practical_atheism

Agnosticism is really just created cause people don't want to call theirself atheists.

Reply May 27, 2011 - edited
Ramunesun

these useless semantics have been posted before, believe it or not.

And again, I'll say it doesn't accomplish anything.

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DailyDoseOfRawr

Harold Camping is a very interesting guy, he tried to derive a date of the rapture from completely random passages in the Bible. I for one did not believe. There is no way we can predict the second coming. In the Bible it talks about how Jesus will like a thief in the night and it will surprise everyone.

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Dorks

I'm an Agnostic. I believe in reincarnation and souls(lol what). :0

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Xchippzanuff

@eeveepony: THANK YOU!

yes what eevee said, i don't believe in one but if some do it's cool for me i just get offesive if they force me to believe in one. it's my life i believe what i want. and most people in basil who bashes Atheists needs to chill and enjoy your day/night

also what @aznanimality: said. i don't deny him. that guy can come into my door and slap me or give me some angel game tickets. who knows?

Reply May 27, 2011 - edited
Killeraxon

your all idiot's Stewie is god.... Brian helped...

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How2Mob

[quote=Emenia]@How2Mob: [url=http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lack]methinks you need a dictionary[/url]

lack (lk)
n.
1. Deficiency or [b]absence[/b]: Lack of funding brought the project to a halt.
2. A particular deficiency or [b]absence[/b]: Owing to a lack of supporters, the reforms did not succeed.
v. lacked, lackĀ·ing, lacks
v.tr.
[b]To be without or in need of[/b]: lacked the strength to lift the box.

tldr: the word "lack" has more than one meaning. Just because you're choosing to interpret it one way doesn't mean I mean it that way. In fact to interpret it as a deficiency is just plain silly. It's obviously the other meaning that is intended in my previous sentence.[/quote]

"methinks you need a dictionary"? I got the definition of it right, "methinks" you need to expand your vocabulary to state what you actually mean. Most words have more than one definition and using them in situations where a second definition could be applied is disastrous.

Reply May 26, 2011 - edited
Masinko

I'm agnostic, but heavily towards the atheist side.

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Schokoshake

I do not believe in a higher power. I also have my own set of beliefs which are not outlined in any set religion of this day in age. I also belief that religion is a load of crap and that people should interpret their religion's book to formulate it around themselves since I feel that it should revolve around the self because we are all different. It should be kept to the self and held as your own, personal.
But yeah...I do not believe in a higher power but have my own beliefs which do not involve one.

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Mclena

[quote=WorkOfArt]I'd say I'm Agnostic and Theist. I think that God is something that can't be proved or disproved, but I still believe in the existence of a higher power, since I don't believe everything just came out of nowhere. But, I've been saying I'm Agnostic for several years now. I've never referred to myself as a flat out Athiest.[/quote]
You're an agnostic theist, like I am.
http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/25/8419/

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KamikazeDes

I am whatever is most convenient at the given time.

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Gnawliryc

[quote=dbackbay]What's it called if i believe in god but i dont follow a religion cuz i think following a religion is just stupid and u should believe what u believe in whether or not theres a god or not.[/quote]

Theist: One who believes in the existence of a god or gods.
it's in the OP

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Gnawliryc

i've posted a few times saying that i'm agnostic, though leaning towards atheism. hasn't changed.

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NoobCake

Now that I think about it, I'm more of an Anti-Theist.

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ClementZ

No, I'm a deist.

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rokindit82

I'm an Atheist still.
But a better definition of Atheist is: A person who doesn't believe in any sort of higher being or god.

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Emenia

@How2Mob: [url=http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lack]methinks you need a dictionary[/url]

lack (lk)
n.
1. Deficiency or [b]absence[/b]: Lack of funding brought the project to a halt.
2. A particular deficiency or [b]absence[/b]: Owing to a lack of supporters, the reforms did not succeed.
v. lacked, lackĀ·ing, lacks
v.tr.
[b]To be without or in need of[/b]: lacked the strength to lift the box.

tldr: the word "lack" has more than one meaning. Just because you're choosing to interpret it one way doesn't mean I mean it that way. In fact to interpret it as a deficiency is just plain silly. It's obviously the other meaning that is intended in my previous sentence.

Reply May 26, 2011 - edited
jorden27

Atheism is more, "The rejection of belief in the existence of deities." I didn't like the way you said it because it suggested that there is a god but we choose not to believe in him (not true we simply do not believe that there is a/are god/gods).
I am sometimes anti-theist not to the basic concept of religion but what it had evolved to, and to some of it's values. But I respect a man's belief if he respect's mine.

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fredthefot

I am an apatheist.

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Skrato

Actually, they overlap. You can be an agnostic atheist, an agnostic theist, a pure atheist, a pure theist or an agnostic.

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WorkOfArt

I'd say I'm Agnostic and Theist. I think that God is something that can't be proved or disproved, but I still believe in the existence of a higher power, since I don't believe everything just came out of nowhere. But, I've been saying I'm Agnostic for several years now. I've never referred to myself as a flat out Athiest.

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