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[quote=GreenGoblin]Correct me if I am wrong but didnt they make Boomstep, phase dash, and assassinates speed faster? To me in this video it looks like boomstep is way faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPPzF015IVU[/quote]
I think they made the after cast delay shorter or something.. but the animation time is still the same.
If this is true, it's awesome because of iframe. Less time outside of iframe if you spam BS. <3

Correct me if I am wrong but didnt they make Boomstep, phase dash, and assassinates speed faster? To me in this video it looks like boomstep is way faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPPzF015IVU

Shadowers need this assassinate speed boost as well as assualter back. Then we will be superior!

I dont have a problem at all surviving with an NL. Although people say Shads are the tanky thieves, I have 22k health with around 25-6k with Decent hyper body, with a near 50% chance to dodge and a skill that cancels a mobs touch damage, I have no problem surviving

Boomerang Step doesn't even feel that slow. It has a delay so we could use it with Band of Thieves(Savage Blow now), but Boomerang Step is still strong as hell. Well, you can just use Savage Blow if you care about attack speed that much, who cares about damage right? I always see complaints about Shadower being too slow at attacking, but no complaints about damage.
I also wouldn't want Savage Blow to go to waste if Boomerang Step would turn out to be a better/almost as fast as Savage Blow. It's kind of like when Midnight Carnival made Savage Blow obsolete when we had the Renegades/Justice update. That was a disaster. It would also be boring as hell to use a single mobbing skill for the rest of your levels until 250. Shadower is all about the play style, if you don't like it then move onto something else, like a Demon Avenger, Execution is basically like a Boomerang Step with no delay.

And about the damage reflect issue, Meso Explosion doesn't reflect damage back to you, but it still won't do damage to the boss. It's like a DR checker I guess.

[quote=Zeev]Imagine a RL B-Step for a second.
Assuming you move incredibly fast to slash enemies on one direction, you will have a rather high momentum -> more time needed to slash backwards again.
It actually makes a bit of sense to have a slow returning delay.[/quote]

but this a video game. nexon plserino make bstep fasterino
and for hella unfunded people like me, i cannot 1 shot mobs like u pros

Imagine a RL B-Step for a second.
Assuming you move incredibly fast to slash enemies on one direction, you will have a rather high momentum -> more time needed to slash backwards again.
It actually makes a bit of sense to have a slow returning delay.

I miss the old shadz

[quote=ajaxTERROR]just assassinate? what about bstep? booooooooooooooo[/quote]

bstep is enough to 1 shot mobs, no need for speed increase

i was talking about shad's speed.
gimme faster bstep pls. why's a thief gotta be slow and clunky, ja feel
reduce bstep dmg and gimme dat atk speed

[quote=SpiritBag]@iDivideZero None of those things you mentioned have any effect on the bosses that matter[/quote]

And none of the things we are discussing has anything to do with shadower's speed either.

@iDivideZero None of those things you mentioned have any effect on the bosses that matter

[quote=epikkhighh]just job change haha. thats what im doing. we shadowers are too slow. we are tanky, but we arent tanky like other classes. whats the point in having 30k hp if you still die from dr lol.[/quote]

30K HP, a skill that cuts all damage by 50%, super long iframes BECAUSE of our slow skills, 45% dodge rate that only shads and NL's have, and a decent amount of avoid to be well above NL but not as crazy as DB (in terms of avoid).

I don't see any reason to complain

[quote=epikkhighh]just job change haha. thats what im doing. we shadowers are too slow. we are tanky, but we arent tanky like other classes. whats the point in having 30k hp if you still die from dr lol.[/quote]
Dieing from DR is up to you, but 30k hp is pretty nice for a thief class

just job change haha. thats what im doing. we shadowers are too slow. we are tanky, but we arent tanky like other classes. whats the point in having 30k hp if you still die from dr lol.

[quote=Thorontur]http://orangemushroom.net/2014/07/23/kms-ver-1-2-218-touch-of-the-coordinator-star-force/
I wanna say this may come during the winter update.
The delay for nate decareases.[/quote]

just assassinate? what about bstep? booooooooooooooo

http://orangemushroom.net/2014/07/23/kms-ver-1-2-218-touch-of-the-coordinator-star-force/
I wanna say this may come during the winter update.
The delay for nate decareases.