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Does Si affect Boomerang Stab?

Hey all! I am aware that SI, using a "Faster" blade, Green MPE pots, etc. will increase the speed of Assassinate significantly. Do they also increase bs a lot, or is bs just slow because of its animation? Thanks.

November 30, 2014

9 Comments • Newest first

Cocola

@ChickenS0up: Ah, I transposed into SW, so that won't be an issue for me.

Reply December 2, 2014
ChickenS0up

[quote=Cocola]Sweet, I guess db's and shad's don't need dSI then or +1 att spd IA. I feel bad for all the db's and shad's that cubed for it or reset IA's for +1[/quote]

for shadowers, that is only true if they use a faster dagger
most people probably use fafnir, which is fast, so dSI / IA would be needed if they want the max attack speed

Reply December 2, 2014 - edited
Cocola

[quote=NoMoreHeros]I can confirm this is correct. Using a faster dagger with mpe green pot and booster, is the fastest possible attack speed. SI on top of this configuration does not have any further effect.[/quote]

Sweet, I guess db's and shad's don't need dSI then or +1 att spd IA. I feel bad for all the db's and shad's that cubed for it or reset IA's for +1

Reply December 1, 2014 - edited
NoMoreHeros

[quote=ChickenS0up]mpe does indeed break the speed cap, but with a faster dagger + mpe (and booster), its already the highest attack speed for shadowers, so si doesnt do anything here

tested again and si [b]doesn't[/b] increase attack speed for bstep and assassinate when you are using a FASTER dagger and a MPE pot

(faster + booster + mpe) vs (faster + booster + mpe + si)
both cases resulted in 56 bsteps/min and 56 assassinates/min
even more, bstep is already 56/min without any atk speed buffs on

another test with assassinate using fast dagger:
(fast + booster + mpe) = 53/min
(fast + booster + mpe + si) = 56/min

so if you want to like, compare sw to fafnir in terms of attack speed, its like (sw + mpe) = (fafnir + mpe + si)[/quote]

I can confirm this is correct. Using a faster dagger with mpe green pot and booster, is the fastest possible attack speed. SI on top of this configuration does not have any further effect.

Reply December 1, 2014 - edited
NoMoreHeros

[quote=ChickenS0up]mpe does indeed break the speed cap, but with a faster dagger + mpe (and booster), its already the highest attack speed for shadowers, so si doesnt do anything here

tested again and si [b]doesn't[/b] increase attack speed for bstep and assassinate when you are using a FASTER dagger and a MPE pot

(faster + booster + mpe) vs (faster + booster + mpe + si)
both cases resulted in 56 bsteps/min and 56 assassinates/min
even more, bstep is already 56/min without any atk speed buffs on

another test with assassinate using fast dagger:
(fast + booster + mpe) = 53/min
(fast + booster + mpe + si) = 56/min

so if you want to like, compare sw to fafnir in terms of attack speed, its like (sw + mpe) = (fafnir + mpe + si)[/quote]

I can confirm this is correct. Using a faster dagger with mpe green pot and booster, is the fastest possible attack speed. SI on top of this configuration does not have any further effect.

Reply December 1, 2014 - edited
ChickenS0up

[quote=CRUSlFIED]Yes it will, when using mpe green potions it breaks the speed cap[/quote]

mpe does indeed break the speed cap, but with a faster dagger + mpe (and booster), its already the highest attack speed for shadowers, so si doesnt do anything here

tested again and si [b]doesn't[/b] increase attack speed for bstep and assassinate when you are using a FASTER dagger and a MPE pot

(faster + booster + mpe) vs (faster + booster + mpe + si)
both cases resulted in 56 bsteps/min and 56 assassinates/min
even more, bstep is already 56/min without any atk speed buffs on

another test with assassinate using fast dagger:
(fast + booster + mpe) = 53/min
(fast + booster + mpe + si) = 56/min

so if you want to like, compare sw to fafnir in terms of attack speed, its like (sw + mpe) = (fafnir + mpe + si)

Reply November 30, 2014 - edited
nitsua2789

It will affect it as long as you use the Green MPE pot, you have to break the speed cap in order for SI to do anything and the only way to do that is with the Green MPE pot. As for how much faster I'm not sure if it's necessarily worth the cost of SI, it's technically only 1 attack speed that you'd gain.

Reply November 30, 2014 - edited
CRUSlFIED

[quote=ChickenS0up]not at all

and si wont have effect when you have faster dagger + green mpe + booster[/quote]

Yes it will, when using mpe green potions it breaks the speed cap

Reply November 30, 2014 - edited
ChickenS0up

not at all

and si wont have effect when you have faster dagger + green mpe + booster

Reply November 30, 2014 - edited