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Is that kishin nerf cruel?

Hello to the Kanna mains, I think you already know what I am about to say, but what are your feelings for Kishin getting a possible "small" nerf?

I think that's kind of cruel for kishin mules and a Kanna overall, if they don't have the decency of buffing their % and revamping some of their passives, then kannas are gonna be too underpowered, and that's sad for a nice class :I.

So, what do you kannas feel for hearing those news? Sorry if I'm late o.o.

TL; DR (lol); Kannas getting nexon'd, your thoughts/feels?

May 14, 2014

35 Comments • Newest first

GraffitiSkyez

[quote=ycycyc]doesn't vanquisher charm completely replaces shikigami later on? why would buffing shikigami help?[/quote]

Well for one, it's your main mob attack from 1st job all the way up until you get the mob count hyper for vanquishers charm. I know they have many other moves at their disposal but c'mon. 3 mobs? That's just booty.
Buffing shikigami haunting would totally help especially since kishin just "slightly" rekt. Earlier jobs would probably go by a lot faster. (Not like training kanna was a time-consuming task anyway but still.) At least let it hit more mobs per attack.

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ycycyc

doesn't vanquisher charm completely replaces shikigami later on? why would buffing shikigami help?

Reply May 14, 2014
uKARMAit

"You farming too much leaves? you having fun? get rkt." - NEXON @2014 happy birthday

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BornNew

Damn, and I just made a kanna mule for leaves...

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KaichouShion

@AznFlip: In actual terms, it is something. At least it isn't really nothing at all.

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AznFlip

[quote=KaichouShion]They aren't going to remove the spawn rate thing completely. It will slightly be changed to a lower rate.[/quote]

That's like saying Nexon lowering HS bonus experience to 5% instead of 50%. Based on the reports from TMS, that's basically a comparable change.

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Elufu

[quote=AckarRed]They said they were making Sengoku content, they didn't say they were "revamping both Hayato and Kanna".[/quote]

To add to this, they have only mentioned that they are "considering" class balancing. Nothing has been confirmed thus far.

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AckarRed

[quote=JasGuilty]a Kanna buff is coming, last I checked JMS was revamping both Hayato and Kanna.[/quote]

They said they were making Sengoku content, they didn't say they were "revamping both Hayato and Kanna".

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albertrock

can someone link me to the details please? thanks

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Dupants

nerf: to make worse or weaken, usually in the context of weakening something in order to balance out a game.

fix: to make (something) whole or able to work properly again
to repair (something)
to deal with or correct (a problem)

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lilpyro991

[quote=GreatBolshy]wait, where are you guys getting this info? i don't see the v149 patch notes anywhere[/quote]

http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1173445%26p%3D9919550%26viewfull%3D1%23post9919550

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GreatBolshy

wait, where are you guys getting this info? i don't see the v149 patch notes anywhere

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yiffyfurry

@YukiCross08: yeah it sucks, but i don't know the rate of nerf though

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IsGamer

Pretty bad to be honest, in my oppinion, if they nerf "party support", then buff the solo part with a huge revamp.

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Ksixaij

ppl leveling without kishin slaves is cruel.

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YukiCross08

[quote=yiffyfurry]tomorrow or later today either way you look at it[/quote]

aww i was using it to farm leaves

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LightCaress

[quote=YukiCross08]when are they implementing this?[/quote]

The maintenance/update they're doing tonight/tomorrow.

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yiffyfurry

[quote=YukiCross08]when are they implementing this?[/quote]

tomorrow or later today either way you look at it

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Finalily

if anything they should add more mobs for shikigami to hit, 3 is pathetic

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YukiCross08

when are they implementing this?

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noobiest123

If they're going to nerf the support role of Kannas, they should buff the solo-play for Kannas (increase damage %'s)

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schizophonia

they should tweak some of the kanna passives to make up for it, maybe boost shikigami haunting

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draken

[quote=OneDevil]This is completely different.

The only other change like this was to Mages and Bishops lolGenesis.

pls go[/quote]

#FWP .

Enlighten me.

@Redadin. It's not being removed though. It's just getting nerfed.

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Redadin

[quote=draken]So every other skill in the game that's been removed/revamped should never have been added? Changes happen.[/quote]

They don't just take away skills. They either tweak them in the regards of the OP (back then) spammable ults for mages. Replace them for something better in one way or another. Or completely chance the focus of the class and while shedding new light unto said class they don't come out worse (usually and down to subjectivity) than before.

This is just taking away a unique mechanic and asking for people to go back to buying glitched spawn.
The class gets nothing in return, it is dimished further than in uses.

I mean.. okay Kanna is now the Ult Spamming Double Binder class.

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Powerbomb

I wish GMS would run things by their players more often instead of just dropping bombs on us and expecting us to like it. People tend to hide from bombs, Nexon...

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KaichouShion

They aren't going to remove the spawn rate thing completely. It will slightly be changed to a lower rate.

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OneDevil

[quote=draken]So every other skill in the game that's been removed/revamped should never have been added? Changes happen.[/quote]

This is completely different.

The only other change like this was to Mages and Bishops lolGenesis.

pls go

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JasGuilty

a Kanna buff is coming, last I checked JMS was revamping both Hayato and Kanna.

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draken

[quote=OneDevil]If they were going to take it away it should have never been added.[/quote]

So every other skill in the game that's been removed/revamped should never have been added? Changes happen.

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OneLife

[quote=OneDevil]If they were going to take it away it should have never been added.[/quote]

wish i could thumb up this comment 10000000000000000000000000000000 times

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OneDevil

If they were going to take it away it should have never been added.

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alanliuis

kannas are already weak, and yet they are focusing on nerfing instead of buffing.
Although Kishin getting nerfed was necessary cuz of kanna mules, they should buff other kanna moves in return.

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