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@nitsua2789: sry idont grind at sdh all day long, i only play ms 2hour max a day, i never train. on my main. and i said only boss drops cra/emp not the mob.
hardly know anything? plz its already hit kmst,check the above thread tehres a dude know zakum not drop potion and spell trace can sell for millions of meso.
the word "harder" is too broad. what do u mean harder? in terms of grinding,bossing or meso- gaining speed?
all im saying is its harder to boss coz u dont have bonus potential there and not enough supply of decent gear coz eveyrthing untradeable.
sure there might be future update abt reboot world but i doubtthere will be any significant change just like the job balancing part.

im def not playing it u dont have to tell me that. we dont have to have same opinino, a garbage to me can be precious to you and likewise a precious thing to me can be garbage to you.

@jerry5000: If you train at SDH for like 6 hours you can get much more than 15m a day just by looting the mesos and selling the drops to NPCs. And who said that mobs and bosses weren't dropping CRA/Emp gear at higher levels? This is an entirely new server that you know hardly anything about and you're just making assumptions based on your own issues with Nexon as a corporation. Whether or not the server is actually "harder" is yet to be seen but people have been begging for a non-pay-to-win MapleStory for years and now that KMS finally gets such an option everyone's complaining that they cant spend nx? If you don't think it's to your taste then that's fine, don't play it. But it isn't a stupid idea, it's something the majority of the community has pined for for the last 4-5 years.

More options to expand appeal to more players? What kind of idiot would do that?

@Draception: Surprisingly, there are still people that think that this game is getting worse and worse

[quote=thallforms]Like I get that English might not be your first tongue. But dude... There is a difference between not knowing how to spell correctly and being borderline retarded.
u proly understedn wen mi wriet liek idoit. << This took me so much effort.[/quote]

sry it doesnt take me no effort to read urs. proabbly just coz im good at engrish

[quote=jerry5000] r tahts u cant ur u n ur u cant theri u r form ppl thats mroe gets teh maplsetory. basdcilly u need solo u need spend gets [/quote]

Like I get that English might not be your first tongue. But dude... There is a difference between not knowing how to spell correctly and being borderline retarded.
u proly understedn wen mi wriet liek idoit. << This took me so much effort.

[quote=Leechingto250]How much do you get from zak per run?[/quote]
If you want to farm in Reboot, there's only 2 real ways to get meso.
1. Sell spell traces back to the shop. The drop rate for these is nerfed to hell as they give you a few m when you sell them back, so have fun grinding.
2. Picking up monster meso drops (you get a free pet for a reason).

I actually think that this is going to be pretty cool if it comes to GMS.

[quote=Kiryuin]i'm excited, it puts everyone on the same playing field, less dependent on other people's wallets, team work required to kill bosses early on

there'll be a sense of communication that just isn't available to most new players and some long time players because of the cash gap in regular maple[/quote]
if all boss' hp r same as normal maplestory, then no boss requries pt to kill except cra/hmag/cygnus. tahts just how it is. and since u cant trade/sell ur gear u have to get strong enough to kill cra/hmag on ur own run u cant get carry(for tyrant at least). for the pros who already killed hmag/cra and obtained their end game gear they will spend most of theri time farming easy boss/training to gain meso u r very unlikely to get help form other ppl after and thats exactly in reboot server it takes mroe time to gets better and experience teh same content as in normal maplsetory. basdcilly u need solo all boss and only by doing so to get all end game gear and after that u need spend tons of time farming meso to gets better.

[quote=Leechingto250]How much do you get from zak per run?[/quote]
It doesn't drop pots. It drops a lot more meso just like every other Reboot mob in the game.

[quote=RisingRain]Reread what I wrote. You don't get free pots from Zakum drops in Reboot.[/quote]

How much do you get from zak per run?

[quote=RisingRain]Funnily enough, I've heard a few things from people who play in the KMST reboot servers, and they said people are actually less willing to party there.
Elite monsters don't drop any of the fancy stuff in the regular servers, so no one does them. Everyone's too busy solo grinding meso for cubes.
Sure, it's less P2W, but you'll be spending literally every meso you have on your daily 2 or 3 cubes from the shop. FarmStory and RNGStory the game.[/quote]

well it has only hit KMST, if this issue is true things'll probably change

[quote=Leechingto250]The daily 2-3 cubes is only in the beginning. As you obtain more char slots and zak with 36 characters per day, you'll be able to get 73 cubes per day from zak alone.[/quote]
Reread what I wrote. You don't get free pots from Zakum drops in Reboot.

[quote=RisingRain]Funnily enough, I've heard a few things from people who play in the KMST reboot servers, and they said people are actually less willing to party there.
Elite monsters don't drop any of the fancy stuff in the regular servers, so no one does them. Everyone's too busy solo grinding meso for cubes.
Sure, it's less P2W, but you'll be spending literally every meso you have on your daily 2 or 3 cubes from the shop. FarmStory and RNGStory the game.[/quote]

The daily 2-3 cubes is only in the beginning. As you obtain more char slots and zak with 36 characters per day, you'll be able to get 73 cubes per day from zak alone.

[quote=Leechingto250]Meso rate is 5x, not 2x.
Since you can buy char slots with mesos for 20m each, just work on getting 36 char slots. Then level each of them to 120+ to do zak 2 times per day per character.
That should get you 360 million per day.

Cubes are 4.9 million each, so you should be able to get 73 cubes per day.

Also, thanks to the new damage-leveling system in reboot, it'll get easier and easier to kill zak every time you level even if you don't upgrade the equips on your mules.[/quote]

that require tons of time to do so. lets say 3hour for a char to get 120, and u do zakum on 36 chars, ull need 108 hours just to level all the char. since its reboot world u proabbly cant kill zakum effecient enough lets say 5min a zakum per char, so 2 run-10min per day per char. that requires 360min per day wihch is 6hour per day just to do all zakum. and i can guarentee u 72 master cueb wont get u anything good, proabbly 2 tier up form epic>unqiue maximum. Who got free 6hour eveyr day to play ms?

[quote=Leechingto250]Meso rate is 5x, not 2x.
Since you can buy char slots with mesos for 20m each, just work on getting 36 char slots. Then level each of them to 120+ to do zak 2 times per day per character.
That should get you 360 million per day.

Cubes are 4.9 million each, so you should be able to get 73 cubes per day.

Also, thanks to the new damage-leveling system in reboot, it'll get easier and easier to kill zak every time you level even if you don't upgrade the equips on your mules.[/quote]
You really think it will be that easy? Zakum doesn't drop those daily few m of pots in Reboot buddy.

[quote=smartguy1801]Oh boy, can these threads just stop. It has been answered so many times, and the idea is beginning to become distasteful. Have people forgotten about ms2, or are these the same people arguing that it will flop like ms1 did?[/quote]

ms1 flop? hehehehe you should look at their finances right now.

[quote=Kiryuin]i'm excited, it puts everyone on the same playing field, less dependent on other people's wallets, team work required to kill bosses early on

there'll be a sense of communication that just isn't available to most new players and some long time players because of the cash gap in regular maple[/quote]
Funnily enough, I've heard a few things from people who play in the KMST reboot servers, and they said people are actually less willing to party there.
Elite monsters don't drop any of the fancy stuff in the regular servers, so no one does them. Everyone's too busy solo grinding meso for cubes.
Sure, it's less P2W, but you'll be spending literally every meso you have on your daily 2 or 3 cubes from the shop. FarmStory and RNGStory the game.

[quote=jerry5000]tahts why their items takes forever to sell[/quote]
[quote=wall]It's often easier to get rid of mesos than equips, and equips tend to cost more when paying in mesos.[/quote]

o.. troo

[quote=jerry5000]drop rate increase does not mean tier up rate/getting good lines increase,cube like master craft cube just garbage,i would ratehr take 10 red cube instead of 200 master cube.
5m meso a master cube in kms, how many pure meso u make per day (not from fm)? if i do all boss and sell all potions i got 15m per day in gms, lets say they make this rate 2x(thats wut i consider significnat interms of nexons undeerstanding). 30m meso per day u only get 6 master cube and we all know master cube sux(no sure abt the meso requried for red ones,praobbly15-20m a red). no matter how good the gear from mob its not cra/empress its like super weak. and here in gms we already can get buff freezer/sp&apReset/wheel/charm/rock wiht meso.[/quote]

Meso rate is 5x, not 2x.
Since you can buy char slots with mesos for 20m each, just work on getting 36 char slots. Then level each of them to 120+ to do zak 2 times per day per character.
That should get you 360 million per day.

Cubes are 4.9 million each, so you should be able to get 73 cubes per day.
You can also buy red cubes with mesos. I don't suppose they'll be more expensive than the master cubes.

Also, thanks to the new damage-leveling system in reboot, it'll get easier and easier to kill zak every time you level even if you don't upgrade the equips on your mules.

[quote=ArchM0onL]most people are pp only, afaik[/quote]

tahts why their items takes forever to sell

This seems like a discussion thread gone wrong. You chose the wrong time to talk about this. All the people here still salty about midday minor patch, WHICH TBH, WAS COMING FROM A MILE AWAY.

OT: I dislike reboot world for a number of reasons, the main thing being "You cannot trade item/meso with other users". What's the point of MMORPG then? Seems like a single player game with the burden of sharing maps.

[quote=jerry5000]most ppl take pp/meso,coz ucan sell meso for pp. hopfully not getting deleted here.im just stating the fact.
been few weeks after merge,things r so cheapin gazed market.[/quote]

most people are pp only, afaik

i'm excited, it puts everyone on the same playing field, less dependent on other people's wallets, team work required to kill bosses early on

there'll be a sense of communication that just isn't available to most new players and some long time players because of the cash gap in regular maple

[quote=ArchM0onL]Who sells items for mesos when they are quitting the game?[/quote]

most ppl take pp/meso,coz ucan sell meso for pp. hopfully not getting deleted here.im just stating the fact.
been few weeks after merge,things r so cheapin gazed market.

[quote=jerry5000]at least in normal ms, u can save up meso and get super cheap gear from ppl who decide to quit, can save u tons of $ and time.[/quote]

Who sells items for mesos when they are quitting the game?

[quote=stevenman76]malpers: omg dis game so ez for rich, pay2winpay3win kurs u nexin!1!11!one1!
nexun: *makes cubes easy to get from reward shop and daily bossing*
maplers: game getin mor pay3win as time go on!.!.!.![/quote]

actually I think everyone has realized by now that it's getting better in the play2win aspect

When did i blame anyone lol aren't u the one complaining here.

[quote=TuneX]If you are not going to play it then don't talk about it.[/quote]

if u not going to be a president dont blame obama eveyrtime u screw things up

[quote=jerry5000]ofc since when i said ill play it[/quote]

If you are not going to play it then don't talk about it.

[quote=nitsua2789]How exactly is it harder. You can buy everything with mesos, your dmg increases with your level, all the mobs give more experience and drop more mesos, the drop rate for cubes and such increase drastically, mobs only drop equips that are useful for you.

The difficulty in my opinion is the same, the only change is that the main problem is no longer money but now time. Currently you have to spend money or merch a ton in order to improve your damage, in Reboot world you have to farm and level up to do so. Simply a different way to play the game.[/quote]

drop rate increase does not mean tier up rate/getting good lines increase,cube like master craft cube just garbage,i would ratehr take 10 red cube instead of 200 master cube.
5m meso a master cube in kms, how many pure meso u make per day (not from fm)? if i do all boss and sell all potions i got 15m per day in gms, lets say they make this rate 2x(thats wut i consider significnat interms of nexons undeerstanding). 30m meso per day u only get 6 master cube and we all know master cube sux(no sure abt the meso requried for red ones,praobbly15-20m a red). no matter how good the gear from mob its not cra/empress its like super weak. and here in gms we already can get buff freezer/sp&apReset/wheel/charm/rock wiht meso.

People complain about new content and complain about current content like what is wrong with you Nexon ain't your mama and they don't have to cater to each individual player they are a business and this is a run-on sentence if you don't like it don't play it BYE GURL.

How exactly is it harder. You can buy everything with mesos, your dmg increases with your level, all the mobs give more experience and drop more mesos, the drop rate for cubes and such increase drastically, mobs only drop equips that are useful for you.

The difficulty in my opinion is the same, the only change is that the main problem is no longer money but now time. Currently you have to spend money or merch a ton in order to improve your damage, in Reboot world you have to farm and level up to do so. Simply a different way to play the game.

[quote=grawp77]maplers: omg maple is so easy now, there is no challange nexin is dumb
nexin: *makes a hard mode server*
maplers: dumbest idea ever, nexin pls[/quote]

malpers: omg dis game so ez for rich, pay2winpay3win kurs u nexin!1!11!one1!
nexun: *makes cubes easy to get from reward shop and daily bossing*
maplers: game getin mor pay3win as time go on!.!.!.!

Can I borrow some of that salt for my pretzels?

Oh boy, can these threads just stop. It has been answered so many times, and the idea is beginning to become distasteful. Have people forgotten about ms2, or are these the same people arguing that it will flop like ms1 did?

merchers don't like the idea of reboot world, and that's not surprising
i may try it if they ever decide to implement the world in gm

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maplers: omg maple is so easy now, there is no challange nexin is dumb
nexin: *makes a hard mode server*
maplers: dumbest idea ever, nexin pls

stfu and ignore this thing?

Just don't play it.

im craving french fries <3

[quote=RichAF]Then.
Don't.
Play.
It.[/quote]

ofc since when i said ill play it

Then.
Don't.
Play.
It.