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Question about atk speed

I've always used an ele staff as an I/L mage, but I would like to create another wep, and I was wonder which is better; the fafnir staff or wand? Wand has better m.atk speed which I don't think really makes a noticeable difference and the staff has 3 m.atk higher. Just out of curiosity, which one should I buy?

December 23, 2014

12 Comments • Newest first

BobR

@boredtodeath555 The attack speed difference only affects physical attacks... like if you walk up and whack a monster with the wand/staff.
It doesn't affect magic attacks.

Reply December 24, 2014
Revolutionist

[quote=usuklolxp]Wow didn't know that maplers nowadays were so uninformed.
Staff>Wand In all cases because staffs have higher damage ratio
Meaning 150mg att staff > 150mg att wand.[/quote]

Lol. A Staff is only better than a Wand because it has a higher base Magic Attack. Other than that, their multipliers have been identical since pre-BB.

Staff and Wand multiplier have been 1.2x since post-RED. 1x since post-BB. 0.88x since pre-BB.

Regarding Mages, they use casting speed, which defaults at normal (6). The speed on their weapon is disregarded. The only Mages that are affected by weapon speed are BaM's and F/P's 3rd job Explosion skill.

Reply December 23, 2014 - edited
LittleTLK

@usuklolxp
Wrong
@shadowind7

You guys are baffling.

Wands and Staves have the same 1.2 weapon multiplier (up from 1.0 during Big Bang).
The speed on staves and wands is meaningless on explorer mages, evans, and I think BWs, but that might have been changed. This has always been the case. Nexon poorly implemented weapon speed on magic-related weapons all those years ago.

Reply December 23, 2014 - edited
shadowind7

[quote=usuklolxp]Wow didn't know that maplers nowadays were so uninformed.
Staff>Wand In all cases because staffs have higher damage ratio
Meaning 150mg att staff > 150mg att wand.[/quote]
I did not know that, thanks! I rarely hear about weapon multipliers anymore.

Reply December 23, 2014 - edited
usuklolxp

Wow didn't know that maplers nowadays were so uninformed.
Staff>Wand In all cases because staffs have higher damage ratio
Meaning 150mg att staff > 150mg att wand.

Reply December 23, 2014 - edited
Masinko

Explorer Mages and Evans aren't affected by the speed of their weapons.

Reply December 23, 2014 - edited
shadowind7

[quote=boredtodeath555]@shadowind7: If mages weren't affected by the weapon's speed, then there'd be no point in having a difference in weapon speed between the staff and the wand in the first place. 3 m. atk is so miniscule compared to a full difference in speed. A bigger comparison would be Kanna's fans. Her fafnir fan is about 50 m. atk more than other fans, but it's slow, which is 2 speeds different. In which case, I don't know which is better for Kanna. You'd assume you'd go with Fafnir anyway though, since the set and effect is best for her in general.[/quote]
Yeah I'm not sure why there's a speed difference.... Maybe for Blaze Wizards? But all weapons for adventurers at least act as a normal (6)

Reply December 23, 2014 - edited
AkatsukiDark

Just get a staff. Weapon speed labeled on weapon doesn't affect mages (Except battle mages).

Mages are only affected by casting speed, which booster does along with every other form of speed buff.

[quote=boredtodeath555]If mages weren't affected by the weapon's speed, then there'd be no point in having a difference in weapon speed between the staff and the wand in the first place. 3 m. atk is so miniscule compared to a full difference in speed. A bigger comparison would be Kanna's fans. Her fafnir fan is about 50 m. atk more than other fans, but it's slow, which is 2 speeds different. In which case, I don't know which is better for Kanna. You'd assume you'd go with Fafnir anyway though, since the set and effect is best for her in general.[/quote]

The only difference from the weapon's speed between staff and wand is how fast you can whack/hit things with the basic attack key.

Reply December 23, 2014 - edited
boredtodeath555

@shadowind7: If mages weren't affected by the weapon's speed, then there'd be no point in having a difference in weapon speed between the staff and the wand in the first place. 3 m. atk is so miniscule compared to a full difference in speed. A bigger comparison would be Kanna's fans. Her fafnir fan is about 50 m. atk more than other fans, but it's slow, which is 2 speeds different. In which case, I don't know which is better for Kanna. You'd assume you'd go with Fafnir anyway though, since the set and effect is best for her in general.

Reply December 23, 2014 - edited
shadowind7

[quote=boredtodeath555]I'd do wand. Unless you think you'll main a battle mage later on, I don't see the point in getting a slower speed weapon with only 3 m. atk more.[/quote]
Well since mages aren't affected by the weapon's speed, I'd think 3 free matt points are better.

Reply December 23, 2014 - edited
boredtodeath555

I'd do wand. Unless you think you'll main a battle mage later on, I don't see the point in getting a slower speed weapon with only 3 m. atk more.

Reply December 23, 2014 - edited
VietUA

i dont think mages (besides battle mage and maybe blaze wizard?) are affected by attack speed
the only difference is fp's explosion which is like a milisecond diff and no one uses that for aoe anymore

Reply December 23, 2014 - edited