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Frenzy Totem vs Kishin?

So this question eventually popped into my head while trying to figure out how a Phantom guildmate managed 237-240 in 3 days (he's a phantom btw) when during 2x on 15.6x (2x, 2x cs, 2x buff, bt) I only managed 24% in those 4 hours.

Now I personally have a Kanna mule, and, as a Mech, I am able to clear the entire map every second in those upper stem maps (left, right, crossroads, depending on which has 100% burn)

I calculated he'd only make up to 3.46% every hour if he could kill the entire map every second with a kanna, assuming he was on 2x cs, 2x buff, and hs, so eventually the only thing I could think of to allow him to lv that much is if a Frenzy Totem had even better respawn rates/amount of spawn than Kishin

(btw before you ask, yes other guildies/ally members confirmed he was virtually on for 24 hours in those 3 days)

September 25, 2016

12 Comments • Newest first

powerlad88

wtf is a frenzy totem

Reply September 27, 2016
Lamato

@nitsua2789: Good to know, will save me the effort.

Reply September 27, 2016
nitsua2789

@lamato: Probably only like 3-5 would be plenty, but I'm not really sure. However after the initial spamming you only have to recast it once to maintain the effect, you only have to spam it again if it expires.

Reply September 27, 2016
Lamato

@nitsua2789: How many times should I be spamming the skill to get the maximum effect? I've been doing 6 just to make sure but if I can reduce it, it would probably be more efficient.

Reply September 26, 2016
nitsua2789

@knitex0: Spamming Kishin results in the same spawn delay as Frenzy Totem, 2160ms (2s). Frenzy Totem is still better because it's 70% mob capacity increase instead of 50%.

Reply September 26, 2016
KniteX0

I heard something odd recently from some guildies - they said kishin being spammed constantly was better than frenzy spawn delay wise, but idk if it was true.

Reply September 26, 2016
nitsua2789

Totem is 2160ms spawn delay, 70% mob capacity increase.
Kishin is 2160ms spawn delay if spammed 3-4 times, 50% mob capacity increase.

Totem is marginally better. Also that isn't 15.6x, that's 10.4x

With 12x (2x event, 2x cs, 1.5x hs, 2x buffs) and some additive bonuses like Gold MPE pot, EXP Accum pot, and Pendant of Spirit, my Evan was able to get about 55-60b exp/hr, resulting in an average of 230b exp per 2x, which would easily be enough to get from 237-240 in 4 2x sessions. I got from 232 10% to 234 73% and I only trained during 3/4 of the events this weekend.

Edit: I use a Frenzy Totem.

Reply September 26, 2016 - edited
iStalkPeople

@twopointonefour: Mob spawn was right, but they changed kishin respawn time to be 1,5-2seconds because of all the complaints. Frenzy totem is better and works as you mentioned.

Reply September 26, 2016 - edited
Glaceon1

Being on that long is terribly unhealthy. You should tell him.

Reply September 25, 2016 - edited
yiffyfurry

Frenzy totem is better than kishin @above is correct

Reply September 25, 2016 - edited
twopointonefour

As far as I know Frenzy is 1 sec respawn and 70% mob increase vs. Kishin's 3(?) second respawn and 50% mob increase.

Reply September 25, 2016 - edited