Is it pointless to have 100 Pdr
Hi Basil,
Just wondering if having more than 100%+PDR will increase how much i hit or anything or if it doesn't do anything at all
November 18, 2012
Is it pointless to have 100 Pdr
Hi Basil,
Just wondering if having more than 100%+PDR will increase how much i hit or anything or if it doesn't do anything at all
28 Comments • Newest first
[quote=ShinyRocks]Have you ever heard / seen of MDR in pots?[/quote]
Let's not condone PDR as the same thing as "Defense".
pdr= poorly designed ratios
[quote=ShinyRocks]@ChopSuey: Have you ever heard / seen of MDR in pots?[/quote]
Yes, Ambition.
did somebody say turtles?
turtles
[quote=Ecyz]Milk came out of my nose[/quote]
Should've filmed it
[quote=ChopSuey]PDR = Physical Defense Rate
MDR = Magic Defense Rate (for mages).[/quote]
Milk came out of my nose
[quote=ShinyRocks]@alloftheabove wrong. PDR = Percent Defense Reduction.[/quote]
PDR = Physical Defense Rate
MDR = Magic Defense Rate (for mages).
[quote=BlkTwitch]No, the way a monster's PDR works is based off of a percentage. The base PDR for any monster is 10%, which would mean any monster, assuming you have 0% PDR, will reduce your damage by 10%. SO if you have 10% PDR, you ignore that 10% and break even in damage. But if you have 20%, it's no different than having 10%
PDR is different from a monsters defense rating.[/quote]
You're wrong.
If you have 50% PDR ignore, and a mob has 50% PDR, You'll ignore 50% of that 50%.
50% of 50 is 25%.
Edit: Didn't bother reading second page
Ok we really need to get maplestory staff in here to tell us how this works...
@jamerican
You made me LOL by LOLing at something that shouldn't be LOL'd at
OT:
PDR works like this:
Ignore x% of the monster's total PDR%.
Monster with 50% PDR will reduce damage by 50%.
Ignore 30% PDR will reduce 30% of the 50% which is 15% reduction, meaning it will reduce damage by 35% instead of 50%.
Quite simple really. And don't try to argue against me with "no, I know it works a different way;" this has been tested over and over by so many people that saying anything else just makes you look like those same idiots who think that there's a 10% chance in getting seven consecutive 10% scroll successes.
@ConfusedSoul: Yeah oh well at least he knows he's an idiot.
@sumyounguy:
Agreed. It's so annoying how they think they're geniuses when they're off by a longshot.
And he probably wanted people to like his comment
so overall, total damage and att% would be better than pdr%
[quote=ConfusedSoul]Sumyounguy is right. Anyone with common sense would tell you that it's multiplicative, and not additive. On Stronghold Monsters, which have 30 PDR, I do more damage with 60% PDR (Aria Amour and the Leafre Set) than I do with 30% (just Aria Amour), having maxed skills either way.
@jamerican Really, how did I do that? o.o[/quote]
This has been a topic that has been defeated since the release of PDR. If they saw the threads back then, they would know how PDR worked. Also jamerican was just trying to be a cool guy by thinking he was smart and knew how PDR worked and most likely figured you were wrong and caps lol cause he's a hipster like that.
[quote=BlkTwitch]No, the way a monster's PDR works is based off of a percentage. The base PDR for any monster is 10%, which would mean any monster, assuming you have 0% PDR, will reduce your damage by 10%. SO if you have 10% PDR, you ignore that 10% and break even in damage. But if you have 20%, it's no different than having 10%
PDR is different from a monsters defense rating.[/quote]
[quote=sumyounguy]@BlkTwitch: PDR is not that easy to beat. And it is right. Check it out on southperry.[/quote]
Sumyounguy is right. Anyone with common sense would tell you that it's multiplicative, and not additive. On Stronghold Monsters, which have 30 PDR, I do more damage with 60% PDR (Aria Amour and the Leafre Set) than I do with 30% (just Aria Amour), having maxed skills either way.
@jamerican Really, how did I do that? o.o
Well PDR reduces a % of the monster's def... So uhh... It ignores up to 100% of it. Anymore doesn't do anything.
@BlkTwitch: PDR is not that easy to beat. And it is right. Check it out on southperry.
[quote=sumyounguy]No I am referring to the guy who you quoted.[/quote]
The guy I quoted was wrong. That's why I quoted him. And corrected him.
[quote=BlkTwitch]The first guy that posted? No he isn't correct on that. If you are referring to @Darksword. He basically said the same thing I did.[/quote]
No I am referring to the guy who you quoted.
[quote=BlkTwitch]The first guy that posted? No he isn't correct on that. If you are referring to @Darksword. He basically said the same thing I did.[/quote]
If I had to guess, you were "the first guy" because you were first in that quote train.
[quote=sumyounguy]Uh... Where have you been? The first guy was right on with how PDR and PDR ignore works.[/quote]
The first guy that posted? No he isn't correct on that. If you are referring to @Darksword. He basically said the same thing I did.
[quote=BlkTwitch]No, the way a monster's PDR works is based off of a percentage. The base PDR for any monster is 10%, which would mean any monster, assuming you have 0% PDR, will reduce your damage by 10%. SO if you have 10% PDR, you ignore that 10% and break even in damage. But if you have 20%, it's no different than having 10%
PDR is different from a monsters defense rating.[/quote]
Uh... Where have you been? The first guy was right on with how PDR and PDR ignore works.
[quote=ConfusedSoul]Well, you're half right on that. The way %ignore works is that it ignores a % of the defense. For example, if you have 30% ignore and the monster has 10 PDR, you ignore 30% of the 10 PDR it has, which is 3. That means you lose 7% of your damage.[/quote]
You made me LOL
[quote=ConfusedSoul]Well, you're half right on that. The way %ignore works is that it ignores a % of the defense. For example, if you have 30% ignore and the monster has 10 PDR, you ignore 30% of the 10 PDR it has, which is 3. That means you lose 7% of your damage.[/quote]
No, the way a monster's PDR works is based off of a percentage. The base PDR for any monster is 10%, which would mean any monster, assuming you have 0% PDR, will reduce your damage by 10%. SO if you have 10% PDR, you ignore that 10% and break even in damage. But if you have 20%, it's no different than having 10%
PDR is different from a monsters defense rating.
[quote=Darksword]PDR stands for Physical Damage Reduction. The more PDR a monster has, the more damage is reduced from the attacker. However if the player has over the PDR, it will not hit more, it'll be the same amount of damage as if you had the exact same PDR has the monster.[/quote]
Well, you're half right on that. The way %ignore works is that it ignores a % of the defense. For example, if you have 30% ignore and the monster has 10 PDR, you ignore 30% of the 10 PDR it has, which is 3. That means you lose 7% of your damage.
Physical Damage Reduction. That's all it is. If you are ignoring all the PDR a monster has, then It would just be like the monster has 0 PDR. Anything after that won't increase your damage. For most bosses 30-50% is good enough. But for the harder bosses you are gonna want 80%-100% just to break even in damage.
PDR stands for Physical Damage Reduction. The more PDR a monster has, the more damage is reduced from the attacker. However if the player has over the PDR, it will not hit more, it'll be the same amount of damage as if you had the exact same PDR has the monster.
Having over 100%PDR won't do anything.