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Killing Chaos Vellum is it possible?

Now im sure many of you know that Bellum / Vellum, whatever you want to call him has 300% defense, Normally this reduces ANYONES damage to 1 just due to lack of defense ignore; even post-RED i'll have like 205% defense ignore and bellum will STILL reduce my damage by 63% (counting his physical resist here)

I wonder my fellow dark knight's (and this may be a tough question to answer given that we can't know for sure what bellum's actual hp value is) wouldn't it be possible to just form a party of nothing but dark knights and mercedes and just completely ignore Bellum's defense via sacrifice / defense break and kill him (and lets assume for the purpose of this that he actually has 2b hp and the rest of it ISN'T server sided)

July 25, 2013

9 Comments • Newest first

Singaporean

DA can also shave off 30% with their skill.

Reply July 26, 2013
iVege

[quote=forgetteking]Im pretty sure he's talking about the skill Sacrifice from the RED update, look it up. pretty sick doe.[/quote]

nup

Reply July 26, 2013
bluebomber24

Defense Break is only like 40% of the time. So you would need some insane damage from the Merc and it would have to be done before the Rebalancing patch where DB is nerfed. IDK, about Bera, but thier arn't alot of Mercs, if any, that I would fit the bill, as most of the funded ones are quiting and moving to WA.

You need a better strategy, realisitcally.

Reply July 26, 2013
nhan1st

Not sure. I'm going to calculate this with paladin's damage post-red.
100% phys resist ignore from void. This only leaves the 300% PDR left.
50% ignore PDR from threaten.
30% ignore PDR from blast buff.

Since it's multiplicative, what we ignore so far.
195% PDR.
This leaves with 105% PDR from chaos vellum left.
A luminous skill link can give up to 15% ignore PDR -> 89.25 PDR
We can easily get about 30% from each line of potential on a weapon for both secondary and main.
89.25% -> 62.475% -> 43.7325% PDR left on chaos vellum.

In case of RA bosses, pdr neb would be better, so let's say there's one A-ranked PDR neb on your weapon. That leaves cVellum down to 34.55% PDR.

Paladins have according to Joetang, at 0% PDR, we got a %damage of 13505% every minute. Assumin far from ideal condition, this leaves to about 12k% damage per minute at 0% PDR or 7854% damage per minute at 0% boss. Assuming it's 100% boss (not that hard), it's ~15.6k% per minute. 6 pallies = 93.6k% dpm.
Vellum has 126b hp.
I believe you have half the timer for cRA so, 15 minutes to do 126b or 8.4b/minute.
For the sake of arguing, every pally has a 2m-2m range and can cap crit which the average mutiplier would be about 1.5x.
The damage of the party would be 3m x 93.6k% = 280b a minute.
Realistically, the cap damage is at 50m.
Pallies can do about 8m per line of blast at 35% PDR, 100% boss, cap crit, and 1.2m range with void elemental on. The delay of blast is 810 ms, but to compensate for the buff time and stacks, stuns and what not, let's say 2000ms, so in a minute, a pally can hit 30 times.
Blast hits 10 times per cast. That's 80m. 6 pallies is 480m. If they hit 30 times a minute, that's 14.4b. More than enough to kill chaos vellum.
Insanely hard, not impossible.

Reply July 26, 2013
forgetteking

[quote=wertz49]sacrifice does a lot of damage but it says it doesn't ignore boss DEF on it[/quote]

Im pretty sure he's talking about the skill Sacrifice from the RED update, look it up. pretty sick doe.

Reply July 26, 2013
lazershock

[quote=darkspawn980]if he only had 2 bil you wouldn't even need a team, he'd be soloable if funded enough.

problem with sacrifice is that it has the most craptacular range out there.[/quote]

True, I only assumed you'd want a team since uk, dem stall tactics that he LOVES to abuse (thats seriously the only reason his fight takes forever) defense break + ishtars ring might be a better option since it has better range (I think buccs have a skill that can ignore 100% defense too)

Reply July 25, 2013
darkspawn980

if he only had 2 bil you wouldn't even need a team, he'd be soloable if funded enough.

problem with sacrifice is that it has the most craptacular range out there.

Reply July 25, 2013
lazershock

[quote=wertz49]sacrifice does a lot of damage but it says it doesn't ignore boss DEF on it[/quote]

It does, its a typo that they NEVER fixed.
and OH your right we do have f/p mages and such with elemental reset, that would get past his physical resist but you'd still need a ton of defense ignore.

Reply July 25, 2013
Maxilonius

just have evans, i/l and f/p all attacking him at once

at least i think that's how it works

Reply July 25, 2013