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Range to hit 5mil?

Title.

Range with crits
Range without crits

Thanks

September 2, 2013

21 Comments • Newest first

airforce1

@darklord666: Both the BM and MM calcs are linked in my guide. You're welcome to ask myself or @ryuushinou about any questions on mechanics.

Reply September 3, 2013
darklord666

@airforce1: Well, from what I remembered, Wild Hunters should technically have the same damage multiplier as a marksman as they also use Crossbows, so if there is a Marksman calculator to use, would be cool if I and many others can make use of it. Changes to it would just mean switching skills and values around while incorporating buffs from the Jaira. I am actually surprised no one had stepped up for WHs yet, they kind of have the best of both worlds and with a possible update coming soon for resistance, it would be nice to be able to determine best possible range for them.

There are some calculations I am not very familiar with though when making the calculator, but if I had some kind of template or reference to check out formulas, then maybe I can make one. I think it would be great for all archers to have their own individual calculators, Wild Hunters could use one too.

Reply September 3, 2013
airforce1

@darklord666: I have part of one for MM, but no one has stepped up for WHs.

Reply September 2, 2013
bluebomber24

[quote=darklord666]Is there a calculator for Wild Hunters or Marksman? If not I guess I will try to make one.[/quote]

none for WH.

Reply September 2, 2013
darklord666

[quote=airforce1]@LeadIn: Oh for WA you'll have to look up Elufu's WA calculator. The one I linked is for BMs.[/quote]

Is there a calculator for Wild Hunters or Marksman? If not I guess I will try to make one.

Reply September 2, 2013
bluebomber24

[quote=seishikin]

AKA WA aren't as op as we thought? xD

TBH I have no idea how to use the calculator. I wanna try putting 200% dex and around 600 scrolled dex and 500 total attack (these are only from equips and links) and see my range at level 150 =/[/quote]

Its the number of hits that you should look at

Reply September 2, 2013
archusz

how you get 885 att? its too much

Reply September 2, 2013
LeadIn

@airforce1: Oh oops good thing I didn't try it out yet

Reply September 2, 2013
Economy

[quote=seishikin]@ryuushinsou

AKA WA aren't as op as we thought? xD

TBH I have no idea how to use the calculator. I wanna try putting 200% dex and around 600 scrolled dex and 500 total attack (these are only from equips and links) and see my range at level 150 =/[/quote]

Trifling Whim adds a lot of outside DPS.

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
seishikin

@ryuushinsou

AKA WA aren't as op as we thought? xD

TBH I have no idea how to use the calculator. I wanna try putting 200% dex and around 600 scrolled dex and 500 total attack (these are only from equips and links) and see my range at level 150 =/

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
ryuushinou

@seishikin: No you need 275k range to ensure you hit 1m consistently IF you do not have 100% crit rate (if you do then obviously 170k or just a tad more).

Because you have a min-max range due to masteries, you will need at least 275k range to hit 1m constantly. Otherwise 230k minimum to hit 1m without crits.

Further note: The range I'm speaking exclude the %damage buffs you get[however they are combined into the damage formula as they add to your range in an incorrect manner] from your skills and I have not accounted for link skills either. In other words you need x1.45 more range on top of all the calculations I have provided.

For 1m on Sky Song, your estimated fully buffed range will be:
Crit: 250k ish
Non-crit: 400k ish

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
seishikin

@ryuushinou

Do you mean 230k is the range to hit 1m consistently on sky song then? Not 170k?

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
seishikin

[quote=ryuushinou]Refer to [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2719445/1/#44594648]this[/url] post.

That was for 1m w/ Sky Song. 5m = 5x that range for crits.

230k-275kish range for no crits.[/quote]

I'm confused. It said a range of 170k for constant 1m lines. 5x 170k is 850k.

And thus it would be around 500k for 5m per line minimum.

So where does the 230k come from?

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
ryuushinou

Refer to [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2719445/1/#44594648]this[/url] post.

That was for 1m w/ Sky Song. 5m = 5x that range for crits.

230k-275kish range for no crits to hit 1m => x5 for 5m per line.

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
Jenno

And do you mean on bosses ;o? Or just regular mobs?

EDIT: Erm, a better question would be to ask which attack you want to hit 5m with

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
bluebomber24

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2712763

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
airforce1

@LeadIn: Oh for WA you'll have to look up Elufu's WA calculator. The one I linked is for BMs.

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
LeadIn

Oops I meant WA, I guess I'll try that @airforce1 thanks~

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
airforce1

Use http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiJYQSoufKMhdDVHRFJEUjRQYVZtSk93RDZFRVlORXc#gid=31

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
Jenno

You didn't specify the job of which you want to hit 5m damage with

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited