I like the starforce update
I noticed in at least 1 thread that a few people were dissapointed that we only got a maximum of 15 stars on our equips for starforce, but I think that's a good thing. Like Nexon said, the reason KMS had a max of 25 stars was because of MEE, which we never got. Any equips that had MEE used on them were capped at 15 stars, so the 25 star limit on other items was to keep the equips more balanced. I much prefer having a flat cap of 15 stars and no MEEs to worry about. It also gave us a bunch of basically free sets, along with a new pocket item to put on mules for training which I love <3 that and they will give us much more sup item crystals upon extracting than the current lvl 110 equips that drop from mobs.
I really don't see how people could complain about this update. Yea, there isn't a unique pot scroll from attendance. Who cares? There's an epic pot scroll, and that's good enough for me, its still a free epic pot on an equip. More inventory expansions<3 and really awesome chairs too. I think people who play this game have become extremely spoiled when they get dissapointed because we don't get unique pot scrolls or character slot coupons. Get over yourself. Maplestory is a F2P game, Nexon doesn't have to give you any free items in their winter updates. Be happy that you get what they are giving
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[quote=Lecarde]@Samygxz85: Protection scrolls never worked on tyrants anyway, so even if they were completely removed, the item ID just deleted from the game, it wouldn't affect enhancing tyrants. I have seen people complain about the 15 star limit. And yes the sets will be free, they drop from mobs just like the current lvl 110 equips do. That means the 140 set will drop from the mobs in SDH, future henesys, ToT etc... so yea, it will be completely free. Even if you needed starforce it isn't any harder to get than it used to be. Use starforce to enhance regular items, throw a 5 star EE on your tyrants and you are at about 60 stars already. You are literally making up problems with this update just so you can complain about something[/quote]
when did i say protection scrolls worked with tyrants? i mentioned they were removed, which is something negative as it leads to everybody using the new system, or buying protection with nx through cash shop hence more p2w. well, maybe they do, idk, in any case, those items arent even that good, with current prices u can have all mules with empress stuff for what? less than 100m depending on class, and with the current value of mesos, 100m is nothing. "throw a 5star ee on your tyrant" u should know that 5star ee dont grow from trees, or drop from mobs, therefore getting them are difficult, if i wanted to do that i would either have to buy 2 psoks (costing 8k) and transfer to a mule with those scrolls or wait an awful amount of time for an event to give them out.
enhancing regular equipments will still cost money, ok maybe until 5stars itll be alright, but further enhancing downgrades, costs more money and is not cost-efficient.
the only thing which could be positive is that its trying to balance the economy and control the hyperinflation we had a while ago, anyway that doesnt benefit all players.
before u continue complaining about me complaining i will ask u kindly to back up ur arguments, as clearly i do have reasons for my complains and apparently u dont, i kindly suggest u think better about ur arguments as my complains are being backed up by other players too.
[quote=Lecarde]@Samygxz85: Protection scrolls never worked on tyrants anyway, so even if they were completely removed, the item ID just deleted from the game, it wouldn't affect enhancing tyrants. I have seen people complain about the 15 star limit. And yes the sets will be free, they drop from mobs just like the current lvl 110 equips do. That means the 140 set will drop from the mobs in SDH, future henesys, ToT etc... so yea, it will be completely free. Even if you needed starforce it isn't any harder to get than it used to be. Use starforce to enhance regular items, throw a 5 star EE on your tyrants and you are at about 60 stars already. You are literally making up problems with this update just so you can complain about something[/quote]
You also have to remember that it costs mesos for each enhancement, and I wouldn't even be concerned about the boom rate. For both non-superiors and superiors, there's a pretty large chance of your item dropping a star. Granted, once you hit 10 stars, you can't go any lower, but it starts costing between 8-20m PER TRY to enhance your item past 10 stars. So although you get those sets for free, it's likely you'll have to burn a pretty large amount of mesos to get to a significant amount of enhancements.
[quote=Lecarde] Any equips that had MEE used on them were capped at 15 stars[/quote]
Just to add, any equips that had MEE used on CANNOT be enhanced using starforce at all.
Prots are important for primes tho
@Samygxz85: Protection scrolls never worked on tyrants anyway, so even if they were completely removed, the item ID just deleted from the game, it wouldn't affect enhancing tyrants. I have seen people complain about the 15 star limit. And yes the sets will be free, they drop from mobs just like the current lvl 110 equips do. That means the 140 set will drop from the mobs in SDH, future henesys, ToT etc... so yea, it will be completely free. Even if you needed starforce it isn't any harder to get than it used to be. Use starforce to enhance regular items, throw a 5 star EE on your tyrants and you are at about 60 stars already. You are literally making up problems with this update just so you can complain about something
[quote=Samygxz85]either u havent played the game enough, or have been spoiled by nexon (or work for them).
15? 25? stars, who cares, i havent seen anybody mad about this, its reasonable we get it.
free sets? really? who said it was free? clearly u dont know nexon, nothing is free for them, havent read in detail but i think i read u need to kill the star force mobs for this, for which u require a certain number of stars. probably for good sets it'll need many stars which seem easy to get but i bet they arent.
again who cares about sup crystals?
clearly u havent seen the tyrants then. unique pot scroll is no way near the problem, yes it would be nice, but watever the rewards from attendance are still pretty decent.
you clearly dont understand the problem here.
so i'll explain it to u, tyrants will be impossible to enhance with the new system, and i bet nexon will make us use the system by underproviding scrolls (starting with removing protection scrolls, another idea which i hate, even though i never killed elites for them).
did i mention what happens when ur item gets destroyed? yea u get equipment traces but u wont get the star count back apparently, hence making the process repeat again, in other words a cycle in which u will never end up getting what u want.
after that u will surrender with the system, and decide to buy more nx (for wards), nexon will profit from this, they supposely do this to make it less p2w, i really think its not the case.
note: if this post offends anybody, i in no way im trying to, im just mad at nexon for the patch they give us and im trying to make constructive criticism in order to make people realize what really is happening.[/quote]
+1 from Santa , but next time ring milk and cookies
@epikkhighh: thanks haha
[quote=Lecarde]So? Superior items aren't supposed to be easy to enhance, I don't see why this was supposed to change that. It was implemented as both a meso sink and a way to help the unfunded players (AKA the ones without superior items). Just because it doesn't help the super funded does not make it a bad update[/quote]
If say you were a noob working your way up the "damage ladder", eventually you'd lean towards buying Tyrants. So if it doesn't affect them now, it'll affect them in the long run. Yes, people who are less funded may have an easier time enhancing their normal items, which is fine and dandy, but to truly become more funded, it would cost WAY more with Star Force in terms of Tyrants to become funded. Then they would have to resort to the older method because that literally is more cost efficient than Star Force. Therefore, Star Force is completely useless to those who wanted to enhance their Tyrants. No one said it was supposed to be easy, you're right, but Star Force is in no way closing the gap between the funded and the non funded.
[quote=Samygxz85]either u havent played the game enough, or have been spoiled by nexon (or work for them).
15? 25? stars, who cares, i havent seen anybody mad about this, its reasonable we get it.
free sets? really? who said it was free? clearly u dont know nexon, nothing is free for them, havent read in detail but i think i read u need to kill the star force mobs for this, for which u require a certain number of stars. probably for good sets it'll need many stars which seem easy to get but i bet they arent.
again who cares about sup crystals?
clearly u havent seen the tyrants then. unique pot scroll is no way near the problem, yes it would be nice, but watever the rewards from attendance are still pretty decent.
you clearly dont understand the problem here.
so i'll explain it to u, tyrants will be impossible to enhance with the new system, and i bet nexon will make us use the system by underproviding scrolls (starting with removing protection scrolls, another idea which i hate, even though i never killed elites for them).
did i mention what happens when ur item gets destroyed? yea u get equipment traces but u wont get the star count back apparently, hence making the process repeat again, in other words a cycle in which u will never end up getting what u want.
after that u will surrender with the system, and decide to buy more nx (for wards), nexon will profit from this, they supposely do this to make it less p2w, i really think its not the case.
note: if this post offends anybody, i in no way im trying to, im just mad at nexon for the patch they give us and im trying to make constructive criticism in order to make people realize what really is happening.[/quote]
you sir deserve a good post from me.
either u havent played the game enough, or have been spoiled by nexon (or work for them).
15? 25? stars, who cares, i havent seen anybody mad about this, its reasonable we get it.
free sets? really? who said it was free? clearly u dont know nexon, nothing is free for them, havent read in detail but i think i read u need to kill the star force mobs for this, for which u require a certain number of stars. probably for good sets it'll need many stars which seem easy to get but i bet they arent.
again who cares about sup crystals?
clearly u havent seen the tyrants then. unique pot scroll is no way near the problem, yes it would be nice, but watever the rewards from attendance are still pretty decent.
you clearly dont understand the problem here.
so i'll explain it to u, tyrants will be impossible to enhance with the new system, and i bet nexon will make us use the system by underproviding scrolls (starting with removing protection scrolls, another idea which i hate, even though i never killed elites for them).
did i mention what happens when ur item gets destroyed? yea u get equipment traces but u wont get the star count back apparently, hence making the process repeat again, in other words a cycle in which u will never end up getting what u want.
after that u will surrender with the system, and decide to buy more nx (for wards), nexon will profit from this, they supposely do this to make it less p2w, i really think its not the case.
note: if this post offends anybody, i in no way im trying to, im just mad at nexon for the patch they give us and im trying to make constructive criticism in order to make people realize what really is happening.
I really dislike it. Enhancing tyrants are literally better without Star Force. You save a LOT more money by enhancing using the old method, after the 5th star. And even if for example with end game gear you wanted to 15 star it, From the 12th to 13th star, it's a 3% chance of success, 13th to 14th star, 2%, 14th to 15th, 1% chance of success.. Also, enhancing Tyrants start booming at the 5th star.. so when you attempt to enhance the 5th star, although it's small, it's a 3% chance to boom. I was counting on it not to boom until the 8th star, like it was in KMS. So I guess I shouldn't really be surprised that GMS changed it completely, but it's still a huge disappointment because I was really looking forward to saving a lot of money with the Star Force system in terms of enhancing Tyrants.
I'm fairly against it; it makes getting mesos a lot harder for many, because after the update, the only things of value would be end-game weapons, or tyrant pieces, only this time, there is a much wider gap between noob-friendly and merchant-only territory.
[quote=epikkhighh]you seem like a person with a low-slightly below range. if you read closely/ look at the superior items, its 50% at 0 stars, then 40% after for every star. if it fails, 100% chance rank down. thats like...55m for a tyrant cloak attempt, 165m for 3 trys, odds arent in your favor.[/quote]
So? Superior items aren't supposed to be easy to enhance, I don't see why this was supposed to change that. It was implemented as both a meso sink and a way to help the unfunded players (AKA the ones without superior items). Just because it doesn't help the super funded does not make it a bad update
Nexon is going to wreck us so hard with that 1% boom rate.
I've been holding onto my CRA drops... Let's hope starforce is as good as we all imagine it to be!
[quote=epikkhighh]you seem like a person with a low-slightly below range. if you read closely/ look at the superior items, its 50% at 0 stars, then 40% after for every star. if it fails, 100% chance rank down. thats like...55m for a tyrant cloak attempt, 165m for 3 trys, odds arent in your favor.[/quote]
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This right here. Your on the nice list.
Welp, I've got a ton of leftover cra to sell tomorrow haha. I bought a bunch so I could get 20+ stars on them XD
1% boom on 3 stars is a very low chance to blow
you seem like a person with a low-slightly below range. if you read closely/ look at the superior items, its 50% at 0 stars, then 40% after for every star. if it fails, 100% chance rank down. thats like...55m for a tyrant cloak attempt, 165m for 3 trys, odds arent in your favor.
People will complain about anything, it's how the world works.