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This game economy is screwed up anyway. Nexon doesn't care.

Coming from someone who use to be in theaplestory PS scene, with very popular ones at that. For Nexon to do a rollback all they have to do is shut down the servers without saving any character. When you log out or DC your character is saved in the SQL/database. If they truely wantsd to roll it back all they need to do is just turn it off. That won't automatically save and thus, rollback.

@megascience: even so nexon should keep a backup if they want to keep business, I might have worded what I was trying to get across wrong but what I mean is if they have any sense of a brain they'll want to keep some sort of backup of the game in case soemthing goes wrong and they can atleast keep some of their customer base and try to compensate whoever had a loss in the game with logs so they can double check who lost what and if it's significant enough for compensation

@rachelll: I think another reason they don't do them is because they're really expensive to do. It rolls back game progress which is taxing on the players, possibly rolls back ingame nx purchases? and takes the servers offline for a longer period of time, which in general is costly.

Doing what they do now and banning and isolating abusive accounts is lighter weight and can be done while the servers stay up. Rollbacks are likely only used when some exploit or hack in the game is deemed to cause a lot of harm to the servers, or hurt nexon's ability to make money.

I doubt they'd consider this situation to be that damaging to the server where they'd have a full server rollback option on the table.

One of my friends got his account hacked a while ago, he filed a claim to Nexon Support, Nexon then just roll backed his account. So yeah Rollback still works.

@megascience: The rollback system still exists. They record just about everything (in exchange for efficiency/performance)

They don't do rollbacks because it's an obvious embarrassment and sweeping stuff under the rug is a better short term solution

@star909: You're thinking of their database backup. The rollback system was like a restore-point, whereas only changing data was maintained. The backup could be used the same way, but applying it would take a lot longer.

@megascience: if they got rid of the roll backsystem and they mess up one thing they can lose all the files so yes they still have it, otherwise maple is at a constant risk of going away randomly and suddenly without an explanation whatsoever

@rachelll: Can we agree Nexon no longer has a Rollback System, now, though? Because, to me, it seems kind of obvious...

@miauri: remember the 2 black cubes or 4 red cubes coupon? well, it wasn't limited to 2 or 4

@xylyls: It's true, MS2 isn't doing that well. MS1 is still more popular than MS2.

@rachelll: Which exploit happened 1.5 months ago? Sorry, just curious

@xylyls: It's the gambling environment that Nexon created to keep people hooked

Maplestory2 beta(like Riders of Icarus) should be announced very soon with full release coming later this year

@rachelll: Hey, can't be mad. People saw the game declining for quite a while, their fault for sticking around when as long as people have.

Also I have heard, not sure if true or not, that Maple 2 is barely gaining hype over in Korea, so it might not even come to NA anytime soon

@megascience: They don't care about the game economy. There was a worse exploit a month and a half before and they did nothing to delete tens of thousands of dollars worth of items nor patch the exploit. They're gonna just milk Maplestory for a few more months before the release of Maplestory2

So all that happened was the map being closed. No Nexon staff made any statement on it, so it seems whatever damage to the economy was done will stay unaddressed. Hopefully most people who would do this didn't under the thought Nexon was going to get them, so there wouldn't be much effect.

@yunioracosta: <3

@xxmcheifxx: i like that idea

mfw this has been around for over 3-4 months but now its public. GG nexon set up alarms and fix yo shet.

inb4 mass bans
inb4 price drops

inb4 no one gets banned
inb4 this goes unchanged for months/years

inb4 everything

Understood (which is why I didn't reply - I started to doubt myself, so I gave up x-x). Anyway, I think Nexon blocked the maps on their end without maintenance (like how they turned off the store in Edelstein and such), so right now they can't do more. Worried, since there wasn't maintenance, that they might just leave the existing items, though... -shrug-

@megascience: What I was trying to say was in the event of a dupe of either item or mesos you have original item -> many copies but they still share the same unique item ID. You just need to find the item that shares the same unique item ID and get rid of that to solve the problem. For example
Bob A. Bob as been duped. You have Bob A, Bob A. Then Bob A, Bob A, Bob A, Bob A. It doesn't matter how much Bob you made, they will all share the same ID.

In this case, you're not duping an item. The item is generated from the mini game after killing E bosses so even if they are the same item, the have different item ID. Example
Bob A is your first loot. Bob B is your second loot. Bob C is your third loot. While it's still the same item Bob, their ID is different from each other. Even if you delete all Bob A, that's only deleting one. There's still Bob B and Bob C floating around.

When you apply this to botters, they get stacks over 20+ accounts. You're dealing with thousands of items that are all have unique ID. It's the reason why Nexon can't just delete the items from botters because while the method is illegit, the item generated itself is legit by the game's code.

@nhan1st: The only way they'd know the path an item took do delete duplicates is to track items in general. For instance, someone made a topic on Reddit a few months ago (before world transfers) talking about how Nexon found his Ryude Sword he bought had somehow been duplicated across to his server twice. Yes, they were tracking the unique ID attached to the item, but the path generated was in general...

... Hmm... Wait... Maybe... Maybe... if the... But... Okay, you're confusing me. x-x In any case, they should be able to track an item to some extent, considering the rulings they've been making under some justification.

@megascience: This isn't a dupe though. The Ebosses are killed manually/automatically and every loot gained by the boxes are unique.Yes, they can track the person who sent the packets but they can't delete every single Ebosses rewards as each and every single one of them is unique. In case of dupes, it's a multiples of a single item with a single item id floating around so they can just remove one of them and every duped version of it is removed and problem is solved.

I don't get why people still think Nexon even can Rollback. The thing about Rollbacks is it requires backing up a large majority of the entire database periodically. This also means, with every change to the game, the Rollback process must be updated to properly maintain additional data. I'm 99% sure they discontinued work on the Rollback processes, opting for the current method of item-by-item tracking. All items now obtain a unique ID, which has its path documented. Sounds more complicated, and it definitely would be, but it does better for players than rolling back EVERYONE, so I can see why they'd go for that plan.

gdi FM is never safe these days.

Nexon's done things without rolling back for a while now. They're able to track the pockets people send/receive and if the exploiter is really dumb, their mains and other accounts could possibly get chain banned.

I haven't been on my main server in months. I was just thinking about funding my bm too :S

don't think its rollback caliber seeing as it was 1. released today, 2. easier (relatively) to fix than something requiring a rollback (very risky move on their part)

@yunioracosta: You should remove that link. Nexon should already know by now (people with direct contact know), so no help here. x-x

@chocowzzrd: Mesos dupes can go for months underground but once it becomes public, the influx at that point onward becomes the starting time for hell bans. If you used the exploit or bought items via this exploit before today, you're safe. Once every hacker out there start doing it and seeing stacks of 10% dropping to 1m per piece overnight, then hell bans starts.

I know ___ in scania has been doing it for a while and under cutting prices. It's to far spread to ban everyone that has used a said item

Basically hackers found a way to teleport themselves into an Eboss Test Map where you can endlessly spawn Ebosses with no hour of farming / botting / grinding in btwn.

The thread won't be removed by mods until people start posting links / details on how to hack or exploit or w/e. Either that or people start flaming the crap out of each other, whichever happens first.

i havent seen mods removing things lately... anyway what is it? im in ur server i deserve to know haha

only way to get nexon to address a glitch is to publicly announce what it is/how to do it so people mass abuse it and nexon can't ignore it anymore

@wall: I've had my threads removed for lesser thing than this.