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So, when the Black Mage Expedition comes out in 934753 years

What do you think requirements to enter should be?

I would say
1. one (and only one) each of the five heroes (all five heroes must be in expedition)
2. one (and only one, also required) of each nova class
3. one kanna
4. one hayato
5. at least one of each resistance class
6. At least 10 adventurers, and at least 1 of each job branch. YES. TEN ADVENTURERS. You heard me. Keep those adventurers alive!

EDIT:

7. Five cygnus knights of any kind.

And to top it all off, make it a PQ that is long, unreasonable, and fun(just like the old days, except topping even that) <--- @FreeWii4Mii

Like if this seems like a moderately good idea!

March 19, 2013

38 Comments • Newest first

rushiosan

ONE: NX ticket. If not, you'll be limited to 1 entry per week.

Reply March 22, 2013
DrY3sMan

Prequest: You must have defeated all of the other commanders at least once.

Reply March 22, 2013
Kazno

[quote=ryu626]Must be level 250 to Enter~ o god LOL[/quote]

Pls no.

Reply March 22, 2013
ryu626

Must be level 250 to Enter~ o god LOL

Reply March 22, 2013
richboyliang

make him summon hard mode magnus's and chaos pink beans.

Reply March 22, 2013
linking

A long pq like Cwk or Guild pq should lead up to it with mini bosses along the way. A couple rooms that separate all the classes (all bow users in one room, mages in another etc etc) A final sacrifice of 5 characters that have to die to enter the boss room (and aren't allowed back in) Some jump quests that everyone has to do.. Things like that

Reply March 22, 2013
NinjaOfTennis

[quote=carlos910102]they just need for that pq:
Amazing intro ( not a crappy cutscene i mean an anime movie like they do to the new characters )
apocalyptic background ( a destroyed victoria island landscape wth red tones like leafre)
Epic heavy metal song (like darkness nova from legend of mana)
moving platforms where players can attack
Mind control ( control a player (this one must be killed to regain control of his character ( like dragon dogma)
flashy moves
Unable to solo ( fillers dont work) ( maple should work on this)
100 players required to kill him ( yeah a very large raid) (not posibble )
oh of course 3 transformations (every final boss have transformations at least 1)
Epic Die Scene ( anime movie too)

PS: sry for my awful english[/quote]

I like the fillers don't work thing, also the moving platforms. Also, the mind control.

Reply March 22, 2013
Cowsonfire

Requirements for the expedition:
1 of every class
Requirement to be qualified for entry:
Beaten all bosses available in expedition format or in their natural state (area bosses)
Every non-level limited quest completed
Maxed level for that job
PQ:
1st stage: 300 platform long linear jump quest with CWKPQ totems spaced in-between and CWKPQ -styled sigils, except these ones work.
2nd stage: A guessing one such as Magatia's for oh, let's say 50 platforms.
3rd: Escort mission time for about 10 minutes (Hob PQ style)
4th: Protect the escorted person for another 10 minutes (Kenta PQ style)
5th: A Warioware-esque one where everyone's on a platform and when a direction is announced (Up, Left, Down, Right) everyone is required to press that within 15 seconds or the stage is restarted
6th: Boss

Stages 2, 4, and 5 will be completed in complete darkness. Think Orbis PQ's Room of Darkness or the affliction from Crimson Queen.

Is this stupid enough yet

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
LittleOrphans

I what that pq to be as impossible as soloing Zakum at 50 before big bang

we'll finally know if people r overpowered or Skilled <3

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
steven7x23

[quote=NinjaOfTennis]That'd be crazy hard, but entertaining to watch as well. Since each boss has their own "thing", it'd be really interesting to see them all go berzerk at once.

Wait... what's boss 1?
And split up? Seems not really like a PQ, or a team.[/quote]

By that time most bosses=easy

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
Samygxz85

i wrote something about this in the thread someday, basically my idea was a sort of cwkpq
Stages 1-5: some pq including jump quests tele quests etc (like cwkpq, but with more variety)
Stage 6: commanders boss fight (like cwkpq again), fight all black mage commanders, with hp reduced to amount similar to cwkpq bosses. each boss will be fought in different maps, every one in the party gets one random equip (from the black mage set equips which will probably come out) after killing each boss. each boss will drop a certain type of equips (mage, warrior, thief, archer, pirate) and the 2 strongest will drop all of them. they will only drop armours (weapons dropped by blackmage itself)
Stage 7: another pq
Stage 8: another boss fight (with a weakened version of the black mage) (wont go into details of drops)
Stage 9: a pq where you try to get to the door which opens into the black mage chamber.
Stage 10: black mage fight, after killing him everyone in the party gets a random equip of its class in their inventory (there is a chance to get a weapon too)
Stage 11: bonus stage like cwkpq (items: tyrant, root abyss equips, empress, various chairs and scrolls, vip equipment and more)

Requirement:
1 of each hero class=5
3 of each explorer/cygnus/resistance class= 15 (dbs, canon, cygnus, all resistance included)
min number of people 25 max 40

this is what i just made up now in the moment although it has some ideas of my post from before

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
motionblurr

[quote=christien]They should make the map with the Black Mage...A JUMP QUEST[/quote]

Yes and the platform he stays on is very tiny, and he has a skill that knocks you off the platform. Good luck classes without knock-back resistance.

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
RaNdOmMaTT

Make a stage where everyone has to cooperate somehow. No one will be able to clear it.

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
Exumaii

Stage 1: Defeat the Black Mage
HP: (original meso cap amount)
Damage: (same as above)

Stage 2: Watch Fiel Eat His Shirt

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
NinjaOfTennis

[quote=jews60thief]love this idea, when i came back from quitting i was scared of the golems lol![/quote]

ikr? That was really fun back in the day.

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
geralddino

@SmashFace In some way, it doesn't switch to 64bit, yet, they can go higher than 2147483647.
In 32bit, you cant go higher than 2147483647 [b]digits[/b], not the number 2147483647.

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
Business

Would be cool if bundle all ideas togheter and post it in your thread

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
jews60thief

[quote=FreeWii4Mii]I say make it ridiculously long, difficult, and unreasonable (but fun) as the old PQs
like ludi pq, where people had to discover by trial and error how to get past the deadly king block golems and find the code for stage 6

I'd really like that[/quote]

love this idea, when i came back from quitting i was scared of the golems lol!

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
SmashFace

[quote=jascol]I'm pretty bad at math and not very good at coding, but the highest usable number in a 32 bit game iirc is 2147483647, that's why cpb, pb etc only has 2147483647 health but many forms, in the future the highest will be 9,999,999,999. in otherwords, with the current 32bit it will be basically 500 forms of 2147483647 basically.[/quote]

In the upcoming Unlimited patch, maplestory switches to 64 bit, allowing them to increase the meso cap and increase boss HP.

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
enoch129

What is this, CWKPQ again?

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
CaptCandy

You forgot revamped CKs.

It would be an expedition of 30+ players, which is not possible for an expedition configuration.

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
Jasonbird1

-make the expedition like cwkpq, you have 4 team slots, max allowable per expedition is 24 (trust me im goin somewhere with this) and as someone mentioned be seperated by the team you are under.
-first off all teams make it thru a couple medium paced jump quest, kill collect quest, activate this/that quest. then there are 4 chambers, thats where each splits up from there and do a couple more run thrus (like guild pq, amoria, cwkpq) til they get to their end boss, where you beat him get key item and maybe some loot, then meet up in the lobby.
-each team captain needs to hold the item and place it in the black mage corridor, where it opens and team goes in 1 at a time and breaks a part of the seal. then you finally fight the black mage, his map will be huge and epic, as it should. total time for whole expedition : roughly close to 2hrs (i mean come on its a final boss)

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
NiceGuys

I think there should be a Pre-quest, defeating all the major bosses (Chaos if you want to fight Chaos Black Mage), and collecting there items for proof of defeat.

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
games500

@NinjaOfTennis: its an expedition and there are six parties. Boss 1 is a random commander of the 7 and only beatable by the six parties.
After that, they all go to a portal leading them to a map with six portals. Each party goes in one portal and defeat the boss assigned in that room.
After the boss have been defeated, they will all meet up again and finally fight the Black Mage.

The boss from the beginning and the ones in the room alternate. So its not the same every time you do the run.

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
christien

They should make the map with the Black Mage...A JUMP QUEST

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
Morokoo

[quote=PoetryIsMeh]None of that 1 of each hero BS.
Just 1 of each archetype (warrior, magician, archer, theif, pirate), the only reason the heroes are 'heroes' is because they were the 5 people who sealed him away last time, that doesn't mean they're needed this time.[/quote]

Sealed yes, in the long run failed miserably. Amazing Heroes!

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
NinjaOfTennis

[quote=jascol]@NinjaOfTennis: read my previous post? the highest usable number is 2147483647, he probably has different forms or whatever. that's why you can't get over that amount for mesos and why PB has that max amount of health.[/quote]

Well, they fit it into one lifebar. As long as I see one lifebar, I'm all good lol.

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
dadude2140

If those are the actual requirements, no one would play it because getting one exped together would be too much of a hassle

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
NinjaOfTennis

[quote=jascol]I'm pretty bad at math and not very good at coding, but the highest usable number in a 32 bit game iirc is 2147483647, that's why cpb, pb etc only has 2147483647 health but many forms, in the future the highest will be 9,999,999,999. in otherwords, with the current 32bit it will be basically 500 forms of 2147483647 basically.[/quote]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkWonV77Uo]Well, I'm pretty sure this guy only has one lifebar. Also Pretty sure he's got like 700 billion HP.[/url]

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
NinjaOfTennis

[quote=jascol]
no
p2s[/quote]

Not making sense.

Question: Why not?
Answer: No.

o.o

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
NinjaOfTennis

[quote=jascol]not possible[/quote]

Why not?
Chaos Vellum is already quite close to that.

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
NinjaOfTennis

[quote=games500]There will be 8 stages.
1. everyone fight boss 1
2. split into six rooms of six and clear the boss.
3. meet up in the final stage for Black Mage Boss.

Thus defeat his 7 commanders and then Black Mage[/quote]

That'd be crazy hard, but entertaining to watch as well. Since each boss has their own "thing", it'd be really interesting to see them all go berzerk at once.

Wait... what's boss 1?
And split up? Seems not really like a PQ, or a team.

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
NinjaOfTennis

[quote=PoetryIsMeh]@NinjaOfTennis: Nope, no they didn't. With the heroes they introduced the black mage, but i would much rather it if it was 'ended' with the 'normal people',new heroes, rising up and taking him down instead of 5 oh-so-amayzaaang-people who got their butts kicked when they first tried to kill him.[/quote]

So basically like 5 evans. Except not connected to a previous hero, correct?

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
NinjaOfTennis

[quote=FreeWii4Mii]I say make it ridiculously long, difficult, and unreasonable (but fun) as the old PQs
like ludi pq, where people had to discover by trial and error how to get past the deadly king block golems and find the code for stage 6

I'd really like that[/quote]

You mean... bring back... [b]STRATEGY?[/b]

Sounds good. Would be nice if you actually had to do something... Nexon did a good job with Root Abyss in my opinion, if the Black Mage can top that, I'll be really happy. Even though I'd never even get there, because I'm far too weak.

[quote=PoetryIsMeh]None of that 1 of each hero BS.
Just 1 of each archetype (warrior, magician, archer, theif, pirate), the only reason the heroes are 'heroes' is because they were the 5 people who sealed him away last time, that doesn't mean they're needed this time.[/quote]

Then Nexon would have basically just wasted like the past 3-5 years. Okay though.

[quote=Spike9276]sounds cool but it wont happen[/quote]

Sad, right?

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
games500

There will be 8 stages.
1. everyone fight boss 1
2. split into six rooms of six and clear the boss.
3. meet up in the final stage for Black Mage Boss.

Thus defeat his 7 commanders and then Black Mage

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
screwriod

black mage hp- 1 trillion

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
Spike9276

sounds cool but it wont happen

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited
FreeWii4Mii

I say make it ridiculously long, difficult, and unreasonable (but fun) as the old PQs
like ludi pq, where people had to discover by trial and error how to get past the deadly king block golems and find the code for stage 6

I'd really like that

Reply March 19, 2013 - edited