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Hmm well I got my noblesse to lvl 200 in no time, and ATM I have 13k hp. 1-2k of hp will not mean much in the long run tbh.
I got to lvl60 training in 4hrs on reg exp day 1 ( attacked on noblesse)
100 in 4 more hrs on 1.5exp day 2 (attacked on noblesse)
I got to 134 from all 5 evo runs on 2x day 3 (used my phantom to leech myself along with hs)
Then 150 on 2x again from all evo runs day 4 (used phant again)
Trained at dim pq gaining 30% -39% every run (10 times) ( attacked on phantom again ofc)
After hitting lvl 160 (about 3 days or dim pq on reg exp) used teleport rock to tele both my lvl160 noblesse and 162 phantom to sdh2 and miles overnight attacking and since my phant and noblesse were less than 5 levels apart I was about to leech myself to 165 in a 2.5 days afk attacking ( miles skill key and click out of the ms screen)
Anyways after 165 I trained on 2x from leeching not from my phantom but from a good friend who happens to be a bucc who can 1 hit the mobs
4hrs--> 178
4 more hrs --> 190
2hrs-> 200 and then I stopped at around 91%

So it doesn't take that long, btw all the 2xs I mentioned were all from the previous 2x events.

In no way at all was I rushing, never trained for more then 4hrs a day, I spread out my training to avoid becoming bored.

My phantom on the other act that was attacking had a 40k clean range (@200) had auto hp/mp/auto buff for hs/ auto pet feed.

Didn't use link skills on noblesse but I do have a 200 zero so that's 10%exp bonus

And that's pretty much it! Go training yours!

Speaking of gollux pres, I had my phantom do all the killing and my noblesse do all the looting, ( finished gollux pres on both of them in 2.5hrs)

[quote=okaythen]I hope you consider this
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2839274

I don't think it's worth pumping in those extra hours and effort along with
getting less hp/mp so you don't have to waste 10 days to CRA.[/quote]

Okay after reading this.... Imma wait still

@lKingAura: Most classes can't tank dr regardless, and I've met few mages who could. I would think by now I'm also comfortable enough with bossing that I wouldn't hit dr at all (and I solo in empress so no one can kill me). As for casting 30 atks rather than 20, I don't see how this would effect me when I have auto hp and mp as I mentioned before - aside from the times it glitches up - which is usually when I'm standing in vellums stupid green smoke. And if you think I can't afford thousands of potions but can afford pet heal, you cray cray. My shade is holding like 3000 power elixirs at the moment, I think potion use isn't a big deal.
IMO reasonable control and skill can compensate for something as menial as a lack of hp or mp. The only thing it means is that I have to be less lazy with training, which isn't a big deal. Seeing as I've trained a number of crap mobbing classes, I'm used to it already.
Anyways, I'll let you know how I go after the revamp. I could be crying with regret later, who knows? :O

EDIT: It's possible to get 47% max hp and mp, and an additional +4360 hp & mp from set effects,character cards and link skills. Just in case people are still interested in jumping the gun.

More calculations (feel free to ignore me at this point, I'm just posting this here so I can come back to it)
2100mp/hp (character cards) + 2260mp/hp (equipment stats) = 4360
+ 33%hp/mp (set effects) + 14%hp/mp (link skills) + 20% mp (natural talent) + 15%mp (hyper skill passive) = 82% mp overall. I would have liked to compare this to blaze wizards in KMS however their equips have additional options and cannot be compared to ours

Most mage classes seem to hit about 50-80k mp when they reach 200, and it appears to me that by that point most noblesses who upgrade to blaze wizard at least will have around 20k mp at the same level (I'm lowering my expectations here). Factoring in that almost every boss hits based on %hp anyway, and I have about 30%hp and mp from set effects, link skills and character cards, I believe it won't kill me to take a dive on the hp and mp factor. In reality I feel like having 50k mp should suffice for training and bossing.
Having 100k mp as a mage seems rather pointless to me anyway. My lumi doesn't even use half that mp when training.
@okaythen It hasn't been much effort to level so far. I spent about as much time training it as I would a normal link mule (giant potions help a lot). Now that I'm only doing my dipq's though, I train about an hour a day and gain 3 levels.
I can't recommend making a noblesse for a thief class though, they'd probably get the crap kicked out of them.
@AnglicaLove I haven't started funding it yet because I decided to make a blaze wizard about 3 days ago, which is when I started training... so yeah
@Omniscient1 I still tried out all the job skills on my jett and it was already 150. I'm one of those people who tries every single skill of a character to see if it has a use in bossing, only because bossing is what I find fun >< I actually hate the grind but I deal with it. To me, this is just skipping to the fun part

Since R&J is out of the choice, I recommend DIPQ (with enough hp gear and a good mobber) or Evo (with some good cores and a good mobber as well). My Lv160 Noblesse friend actually used MP3 as a substitute at times.

I hope you consider this
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2839274

I don't think it's worth pumping in those extra hours and effort along with
getting less hp/mp so you don't have to waste 10 days to CRA.

[quote=lKingAura]It is said that you will loose tons of hp and mp that you didnt gain on early lvs of not job advancing (can anyone confirm this?). At any case, good luck getting to lv 200 , doesnt look like we will get them in 2~3 weeks from now tho.[/quote]

you lose around 1-2k hp and mp but im pretty sure ur gear can cover up if its goldy as mine for example im scrolling my hat with +7 int and some def and hp its +7 atm and has 1.2k hp on it so yah im pretty sure that will cover up

[quote=Biccy15754]Is there anywhere decent to leech at 143? I've used all my dim runs and I refuse to go back to RJ, not because of the slow exp, but coz 80% of the people there are just The Worst.
So any suggestions? I do have hs and kanna with me [/quote]

mind if i ask whats the gear you go so far im trying to compar my gears with others trying 2 assume range and all XD

Wont your BW not be fun to play though? You won't even get to try out the new revamp skills in early jobs.

@ZaraByte I've only been training for 3 days I just lvl up quickly because my friends have an army of link mules to help leech me with. Only problem now is that it seems at least until 150 I'll only be able to gain a few lvls a day because there's nowhere else to leech/train.
@AnglicaLove I'm making a blaze wizard too <3 Hoping to get it to 200 before revamp happens, and do all the boss prequests in the meantime. Waiting 10 days to CRA is annoying </3

and I thought i couldnt lvl my noblesse over 59.... now i got something to do

lool i got mine to level 133 waiting for blaze wizred <3 what are u getting ur noblees too ? bw or nw

HoH and party play EXP was nerfed.

The Beginner dream is dead.

If I were you, I would stop leveling a Beginner. You won't make it to 200+ now that Nexon made you worthless in a party.

i went to evo till 140
then dim pq to 160
then i teleed to Second Drill Hall 2 and had my phantom who was the same level as i was leech myself to 165
And then stayed at second drill hall 2 till 200

Evo maybe?
I'm so out of touch on training places but last time I played I couldn't find any place besides dim for 140-165