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Question about transposing

If i have scrolled a weapon but it is not perfect. Only +5 baslard. if I decide to transpose it like that with SW knife. Can i still clean slate the SW? Does it matter if i slate it before transpose or after? If it doesn't affect the outcome then ill prob transpose and slate it later. Want to know if it makes any difference though first.

March 5, 2014

16 Comments • Newest first

Omniscient1

@DeathGamma: The point of transposing is to transfer over the stats over to the SW. Not sure if you can transpose it clean but that would be dumb to do anyway lol. If you are talking about just some slots scrolled. Then I think you can transpose it any time even if you just scrolled one slot, but like others stated that it's better to transpose when you are fully done with the empress/faf.

Reply March 6, 2014
Omniscient1

@DeathGamma: no the item doesn't get destroyed. you just lose 10 denoros. So it's not a big deal to fail. just make sure to have a lot of deneros first bc the success rate is really low.

Reply March 6, 2014
Omniscient1

[quote=Mijael]It's not hate, i'm just trying to help ignorant fellows to do things the right way.[/quote]

Again tell me how am I suppose to come up with the mesos? Fafnir daggers are like 3b+. Also they are extremely rare in Bello/Nova. We don't have world xfers anymore. Just bc Bera is more populated, a bigger market over there, and easier to find gear. Doesn't mean all servers are like that. So even if I had 3b+ to spend on one. It will probably take me months to even get one since I have yet to seen one in the fm. Lastly, does it really bother you that much that I chose to use a SW right now? It cost me 300m mesos which I could spare and they were easier to obtain than a Fafnir. Idk that I can't sell it back later on.

If I happen to come by a Fafnir latter on and I have the mesos for it. Then Ill prob end up switching over it to it. Besides you get a lot more attack from empress transposing over to SW anyway. The only negative factors is you miss out the boss dmg from the RA set bonus. That can be made up with other ways. So that isn't a big deal. Also the fact you can trade it but if it's going be end game then I probably won't need one. I am not going quit my DB anytime soon. By the time I quit my DB or want to main a new character. I will make sure to have funds to support it. So in the end just bc to you you don't think it's the right way to find end game gear. Doesn't mean it's not right for someone else. It's cheaper, easier to find, and gives better bonus attack wise after you perfect one and transpose it over. I see no problem in it.

Anyways thank you to all that gave me a legit reply. Ill wait on transposing then until the weapon is slated and perfected.

Reply March 6, 2014 - edited
TheBaldAran

@Mijael
Except there is no [i]right way[/i] when it comes to end game gear. Hell, I'm doing a 4 piece SW and 3 Piece Cra with transposed Bowman Tyrants with a tyrant thief belt. There's not just one way to do things mate.

Reply March 5, 2014 - edited
Mijael

[quote=cris1000]Don't know why you hate sw for some reason, but the fafnir damascus is very expensive and sw is a fine alternative.[/quote]

It's not hate, i'm just trying to help ignorant fellows to do things the right way.

Reply March 5, 2014 - edited
TheBaldAran

@Mijael
[b]Someone's[/b] a little bit angry today. SW isn't total crap because of the untradability factor. Does it royally suck and screws over a lot of people? Totally, but that doesn't make it useless, it just makes it a more permanent investment. Plus DBs aren't exactly overpowered despite what everyone seems to say, not without a LOT of funding behind em. Only thing we really have going for us is the SW Katara and Asura atm, otherwise it's much harder to become "op". Plus technically, Zeroes also have a built in 30% boss and 10% pdr too with Beta's 170 sword along with Alpha's sword which already has 30% boss and 10% pdr, so we aren't the only class to have a secondary with built in Boss%.

OT: Make sure to do your scrolling/slating beforehand, since the SW equipment essentially erases all slots on the SW equip and adopts the scrolled and enhanced stats from the material item (emp or fafnir). So if you were to have only a +5 emp dagger, you would have a +5 SW one with no slots remaining. I dunno if you can slate a SW after transposition, so the best idea at this point would to get slating and perfecting out of the way beforehand.

Reply March 5, 2014 - edited
Omniscient1

[quote=Mijael]First off, sw it's retarded and pointless total waste of mesos , therefore pure bullcrap

Get a Fafnir dagger. save up your mesos for that.

The only sw stuff that worths it for all you OP dualbladers it's sw katara. Get that crap, only 2ndary weapon in the game with 30%boss 10% pdr. Hope GMS some day reacts and take out that 30%boss 10%pdr bs from their 2ndary weapon A.K.A Sw katara or give All the classes/jobs sw 2ndary weapon with 30% boss 10%pdr

Eager to see a sweetvvater berserk chain 30%boss 10%pdr [/quote]

I'm sorry first I didn't ask your opinion or anyone elses opinion if SW or Fafnir is better to get. Lastly, regardless of which is better I can only get what's most affordable to me. SW was cheap. Where as Fafnir is billions of mesos. Not to mention in Bello/Nova I hardly see a Fafnir in the market. So unless you plan on giving me those billions of mesos and finding me one to buy just answer my question or don't post at all. I want something better than empress and i can't afford a Fafnir nor find one right now.

So I am choosing SW for now. Maybe in the far future ill upgrade to a Fafnir who knows. I don't care about the trade value. So please either answer my question or don't reply. I am not asking you for which weapon is better to get. I am asking if slating is better pre-traspose or it doesn't matter when. Thank you. Also the SW knife cost me 300m mesos. So idk what you are talking about waste of mesos. That's dirt cheap compared to 3b+ Fafnir. If I had all the mesos in the world then ofc I would get a Fafnir. I'm not dumb. I just don't have billions nor can get billions right now just for one weapon. I am trying to optimize all my gear. Not just pour all funds into one piece. Not to mention I can't even find a Fafnir even if I wanted to.

Reply March 5, 2014 - edited
cris1000

[quote=Mijael]First off, sw it's retarded and pointless total waste of mesos , therefore pure bullcrap

Get a Fafnir dagger. save up your mesos for that.

The only sw stuff that worths it for all you OP dualbladers it's sw katara. Get that crap, only 2ndary weapon in the game with 30%boss 10% pdr. Hope GMS some day reacts and take out that 30%boss 10%pdr bs from their 2ndary weapon A.K.A Sw katara or give All the classes/jobs sw 2ndary weapon with 30% boss 10%pdr

Eager to see a sweetvvater berserk chain 30%boss 10%pdr [/quote]

Don't know why you hate sw for some reason, but the fafnir damascus is very expensive and sw is a fine alternative.

Reply March 5, 2014 - edited
Mijael

First off, sw it's retarded and pointless total waste of mesos , therefore pure bullcrap

Get a Fafnir dagger. save up your mesos for that.

The only sw stuff that worths it for all you OP dualbladers it's sw katara. Get that crap, only 2ndary weapon in the game with 30%boss 10% pdr. Hope GMS some day reacts and take out that 30%boss 10%pdr bs from their 2ndary weapon A.K.A Sw katara or give All the classes/jobs sw 2ndary weapon with 30% boss 10%pdr

Eager to see a sweetvvater berserk chain 30%boss 10%pdr

Reply March 5, 2014 - edited
Omniscient1

[quote=DeathGamma]Im pretty sure you can only Transpose lvl 150 items Such as Fafnir[/quote]

Nah empress works. I was able to put in the transpose thing. I even tried it a few time an failed. So it works just didn't transpose it. 140-150 items only. So it's better to slate first and finish it off then transpose?

Reply March 5, 2014 - edited
kayspace1

[quote=DeathGamma]Im pretty sure you can only Transpose lvl 150 items Such as Fafnir[/quote]

You can transpose level 140 - 150 items.

Reply March 5, 2014 - edited
DeathGamma

Im pretty sure you can only Transpose lvl 150 items Such as Fafnir

Reply March 5, 2014 - edited
Aristocratan

Slate it back first.

Reply March 5, 2014 - edited
cris1000

I believe you can, but it will only be able to be +9 max.

Reply March 5, 2014 - edited