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oOpoleyOo

scrolling, was it worth it?

http://i.imgur.com/YzvD8RD.gif
rescrolled it and it cost ~20b i think my range went up by ~150-200k
was it worth it?

0 May 9, 2014

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ProDualite

It is the same as people cube with attack% when they have enough boss%. Just like people say "when u have good enough boss, cube with attack%, it will be more effective!" It is been proven Yes, I think she already have over 200%+ boss and good amount of attack%, so boss% and attack% give her less effect when she add more into it while she had no TD, now with 15% TD, the effect is better than add boss% and attack%? That is my guess.

Reply May 10, 2014
watchmefall

@oOpoleyOo
So 40 dex and 24 atk-ish gave you 150-200k range
Wow u must have like 10m range that's amazing!

@Achievement

Don't bother trying to explain anything to her, last time I tried she pulled the
"I have 1.2m clean range, I know what I'm talking about" lmao
She's got her own formula, let her be happy with it

Reply May 10, 2014 - edited
oOpoleyOo

@Achievement: read all the threads for u, i compiled a damage test and set up a damage maximizer contour on matlab, the maths work on paper and on the program.
its funny how u choose to believe half the things on the internet and you end up choosing to believe the wrong half

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
Revolutionist

ITT: Spent 20b on an inferior Bow, and asks if it's worth it. Proceeds to claim Total Damage is multiplicative with Boss Damage, and knows it's a fact when there's proof that states otherwise.

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
infinteZero

to use as a weapon... yes completely worth it

to sell not so much but scrolling to sell is 90% never worth it
just due to effort one has to put into it and cases were scrolls fail

thats one magical bow XD 0 +133 magic attack

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
Achievement

[quote=oOpoleyOo]@Achievement:
you have no clue how it works[/quote]

Feel free to explain. Or even better. Provide us with the new formula you have found out because none of us knew that Tot.Dmg and Boss.Dmg are multiplicative now
lol

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
Achievement

[quote=oOpoleyOo]@Achievement:
http://imgur.com/LxTLKbq
because 3 att 10 allstat adds 108k range. logic
the old damage formula had %TD and %boss stacking additively
the new formula has td boss and att stacking multiplicatively. get with the program dude[/quote]

What....
The reason your 2ndary adds 108k range is because of that tot.dmg which is now shown in the range with the formula I've provided
((4*mainstat + second stat)*att/100) * weapon multiplier * (1+%att) * (kanna if applicable) * (Total damage DA included + boss damage if applicable)

Obviously, the %boss is not factored in the range while Tot.Dmg is

It's not because the formula "changed"

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
oOpoleyOo

@Achievement:
http://imgur.com/LxTLKbq
because 3 att 10 allstat adds 108k range. logic
the old damage formula had %TD and %boss stacking additively
the new formula has td boss and att stacking multiplicatively. get with the program dude

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
xXMCheifXx

I scrolled a fafnir bow from scratch to 10 stars, and it's 323 attack (plus the fafnir set effect from it)

Only cost me ~13b

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
Achievement

[quote=oOpoleyOo]@Achievement:

TD and boss%$ are multiplicative. i know this as a fact 100%[/quote]

((4*mainstat + second stat)*att/100) * weapon multiplier * (1+%att) * (kanna if applicable) * (Total damage DA included + boss damage if applicable)

Huh?

Sources:
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=71438
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=62719
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=69723
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2778766/1/Boss_att_and_total_dmg_question.html
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2445149/3/_total_damage_vs__total_attack.html
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2710908/2comments_list

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
oOpoleyOo

@Achievement:

TD and boss%$ are multiplicative. i know this as a fact 100%

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
Achievement

[quote=oOpoleyOo]@traderweak:
td are boss are multiplicative[/quote]

No. Tot.Dmg and %Boss are addictive to each other while %Att are multiplcative

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
nightdrks

[quote=oOpoleyOo]http://i.imgur.com/YzvD8RD.gif
rescrolled it and it cost ~20b i think my range went up by ~150-200k
was it worth it?[/quote]

if only that was a fafnir....

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
trollburt

you can obviously afford it so more power to you. gratz

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
oOpoleyOo

The maths showed me that meister for me is ~19% better than fafnir
that means if i hit 40m/line with fafner i'd expect to hit ~48m/line with meister. powerofTD

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
morrie2

you better used all that money to perfect a faf bow, but hey as long as you are happy i am

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
Skyenets

I think it wasn't exactly worth it. You would have been better off selling the previous one and starting over. I scrolled and enhanced (6 star atm) my staff for 2B at most. I still have my old staff which I can now sell for quite a bit. Which will allow me to enhance some more and cube it.

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
wingless666

well to be honest, 20b for 30 stat and about 30~40 att isn't worth it. But good news is
I doubt there will be better scrolls ever so that item is truly perfected~

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
garu388

untradable weapon, my own whip it was scrolled with +5att +5all stats and decided to innoc on first day of event and bought a bunch of leaves and went to about 7/10 in a row without safety scrolls

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
oOpoleyOo

@garu388 was it a psok wep? or freely tradable? i had to psok and trade like 6 times
@traderweak it was +8 scrolled 286 att 10 star no and like 30 str/dex less than this one

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
garu388

it costed me 4b to rescroll a worn weapon perfect 10/10 and still need to enhance to the tenth star or so so about another 5b iguess?

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
oOpoleyOo

@alexstahp exactly what happened aint gunna spend another ~2-3m nx cubing/b-cubing
@antyclea tyrants tyrants are finished working on belt now, 3 stars left and im pretty much full build

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
alexstahp

im gonna assume it only cost ~20b cause of the fact you had to psok or use nx for shields seeing as its limited to 5 per char. I know my knuckle cost me about 2b (including price of knuckle)

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited
PinaKoala

it's alright. could've done better tbh

wasted a lot of nx..lol

Reply May 9, 2014 - edited