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At evo or mpe I'd say my kaiser had better mobbing, but somewhere like HoH id say its somewhat of a tie, as a pally I can one hit ko easily but as a kaiser I had fire damage from inferno breath and stone dragon hrouping all of the mobs on the opposite platform and grapple making it easy. Pally on the other hand, its easy to one hit ko most mobs, and heavens hammer at a cooldown on 10 seconds is good for clearing the map as well. After maining both though I'd definitely say Kaiser wins

@traderweak: You are really over-exaggerating this delay, 2 whole seconds? Seriously?

[quote=traderweak]@PhreshPrynce:
I was comparing their AoE skill, Blade Burst delay too high, after casting once, Kaiser need to wait like 1-2 seconds to move or cast another skill (except casting Blade Burst again). That is the whole point, I'm not even saying anything about the word 'Transform'. Don't simply conclude what I say.[/quote]

This isnt true at all. Blade burst has no where near such a heavy delay, otherwise kaisers couldnt boss gollux. Although there may be a slight delay with blade burst (4th job skill) from 2nd-3rd the mobility and map clearing abilities are bar none in the warrior class. As for fourth job, if kaisers simply just use blade burst, flash jump; we would lose in clearing a map. However kaisers are far more dynamic and versatile than this. We have dragon statue and chains to pull monsters in, and finish them off with blade burst. Tempest blades also needs to be considered since they attack anything within your screen's proximity. The piece-De-resistance would be dragon breathe that can constantly damage a side of a map with little worry. recasting is about 10 seconds or more? but the recast is able to use a second after the flames die down.

[quote=polypoly]What about when it comes down to solo-ing MPE, Dimensional Invasion, etc.[/quote]

Bump. From what I've heard looks like Kaiser does the best with the mobility and the platform jump skill. But what about maps with high hp mobs like MPE and Dimensional Invasion? Thanks.

@chandoso: Oh i see.. but pally like all the other warriors have that delay after rush, kaiser has no such delay after rush.

Plus that little half second delay is still a pretty tiny victory compared to kaisers grappling and teleporting skillS that makes for much better mobility than pally. Pally has to climb up robes and ladders with their slow walk speed, kaiser doesnt.

What about when it comes down to solo-ing MPE, Dimensional Invasion, etc.

@PhreshPrynce: Its mostly there with the mobbing skill with the swords coming down and crashing around you, forget what its called. Its not a massive delay, like i said its probably less then like half of half a second, but it is there. its like with the rush skill for adventurer warriors, since RED theres a tiny delay after using it where as soon as the skill is done you have to wait a tiny amount of time before you can jump, but you can spam the skill as much as you want with no problems. It is a tiny delay, but it is there, and it does make classes like paladins that don't have this delay on their mobbing skills have a faster battle mobility.

[quote=chandoso]He doesn't mean pure mobility, he means battle mobility. Kaisers attacking skills have a small delay where you can't move for like half a second(probably less) after you use them. You can keep spamming the skill with no problem, but if u want to use the skill, then jump over to another part of the map to kill another group of mobs then paladins have better battle mobility because they don't have that delay.[/quote]

What delay o.o ..i know drk's have a delay between a lot of skills but kaisers feel really smooth to me.

[quote=PhreshPrynce]Huh? How is pally more mobile than kaiser

Assuming both are equally funded and are one hit ko'ing, the kaisers gonna breeze through the map faster cus it's grappling move helps climb platforms way faster, Grapple+flash jump for even more distance. It'll be close but the kaiser will win, but now, if the kaiser is transform, k then it's no competition. Teleport is too fast for the pally to keep up with, insta tele's to platforms, animation cancelling as soon as you dragon slash so you can insta teleport... stuff like that would enable to kaiser to clear the map in a heart beat while the pally is still on the first platform tbh.[/quote]

He doesn't mean pure mobility, he means battle mobility. Kaisers attacking skills have a small delay where you can't move for like half a second(probably less) after you use them. You can keep spamming the skill with no problem, but if u want to use the skill, then jump over to another part of the map to kill another group of mobs then paladins have better battle mobility because they don't have that delay.

[quote=traderweak]Paladin has better mobility because the skill delay is low but damage lose to Kaiser's because lower hit counts
Kaiser's 8 hits per skill but delay too high, I don't know how to put it, after using skill you cannot move rightaway but you still can cast another skill rightaway.[/quote]

Huh? How is pally more mobile than kaiser

Assuming both are equally funded and are one hit ko'ing, the kaisers gonna breeze through the map faster cus it's grappling move helps climb platforms way faster, Grapple+flash jump for even more distance. It'll be close but the kaiser will win, but now, if the kaiser is transform, k then it's no competition. Teleport is too fast for the pally to keep up with, insta tele's to platforms, animation cancelling as soon as you dragon slash so you can insta teleport... stuff like that would enable to kaiser to clear the map in a heart beat while the pally is still on the first platform tbh.

Kaiser's pretty good mobbing when the mob is concentrated, like in DiPQ flying golems or Evo World Link 3 since Blade Burst is fast and hits a lot of the mobs.
But traveling mobs are harder since Dragon Barrage doesn't hit very hard and it's slow and Dragon Slash has a small hitbox. Gigas Wave is not meant for mobbing, even in Final Kaiser mode.
Wing Beats do help a lot with the map control and Kaiser's graphel chain and flash jump does help get around. imo Kaisers>Paladin, even with Heaven's Hammer and stuff, since Paladins only have flash jump and some elemental charges, all of which has a small range of attack.