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Kanna and Hayato Availability Temporarily Suspended Aug 19

[url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/news/current/00Igd/kanna-and-hayato-availability-suspended-aug-19]It's happening![/url]

[i]"In order to prepare for an update to the Kanna and Hayato jobs that will be taking place later this year, new character creation for both Kanna and Hayato will be temporarily suspended, effective 6:00 AM Pacific (9:00 AM Eastern) on August 19th."[/i]

Someone catch me, I'm going to pass out from excitement. (Kannas already have their own thread, so I figured I'd make one for Hayatos).

EDIT if anyone is confused (taken from page 2 of this thread):
[quote=repentant]Someone correct me if my information is wrong, but Hayato has received two updates, [url=http://ayumilove.net/maplestory-update-highlights-msea-v146/]one that happened in MSEA[/url] and [url=http://uni-wz.com/blog-entry-2608.html]the most recent JMS revamp[/url].

So far GMS hasn't received any of those updates. It's not known which update Nexon was referring to [url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/news/current/00Igd/kanna-and-hayato-availability-suspended-aug-19]here[/url], but many of us are expecting the JMS version (or both the JMS and the MSEA update) to come later this year.

For more information:
- fully translated changelog of the JMS changes, credits to @DemoDango: [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2881777]http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2881777[/url]
- discussion thread for the JMS revamp, includes videos [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2880569]http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2880569[/url][/quote]

August 6, 2015

22 Comments • Newest first

Repentant

[quote=darkusryse]Are kannas and hayato just hated or is the temp suspension to rework? Idk why this is a good thing[/quote]
Creation is being suspended so that Nexon can have some breathing room to work on the update. This is the first sign we've been given that Nexon is making progress on bringing the revamp to GMS. We also have a time frame of when to expect it (later this year!) so this is good news overall.

Reply August 9, 2015 - edited
DarkusRyse

Are kannas and hayato just hated or is the temp suspension to rework? Idk why this is a good thing

Reply August 9, 2015 - edited
Sinknight

@repentant: ohhh sounds like a cool combo indeed. Can't wait to see the other skills revamped tho! <3

Reply August 9, 2015 - edited
Repentant

@sinknight
I hated the idea of Flash Jump at first (seeing as how we have so many mobility skills already, FJ feels redundant) but I think I'm slowly beginning to like it. It has potential to be interesting. One way I can imagine using it would be to use Vapor Blade after Flash Jump so that Vapor Blade gains more horizontal movement. Then again, the forward push of Hayato's Flash Jump might not be strong enough, so it might not work as well as I think. Oh well, only way to be sure is to test it when the revamp comes.

@ichosendream
Maybe there's going to be an event where we get prizes and other nice things for leveling a Hayato (or Kanna), so consider saving a character slot!

Reply August 8, 2015 - edited
smartguy1801

Revamp or not. I still love hayato as a reminder to samurai champloo, its so nostalgic.

Reply August 8, 2015 - edited
iChosenDream

Should I make a third one? >.>

Reply August 8, 2015 - edited
Sinknight

tbh i liked hayato without flash jump. made me feel unique when I had to use alternatives to fly around a map.

Reply August 8, 2015 - edited
Fighterdoken

-le bump- jk.
I'm probably going to mainly use the new Battojutsu stance [ Sanrenzan] for bossing because it has high % and relatively quick. down side is few few lines.

Reply August 7, 2015 - edited
Repentant

@piana
I'm withholding my judgement until revamp day. After all, how something sounds is often very different to putting it in practice. It might not end up being that bad.

Also, they already do have i-frames. Surging Blade, Falcon Dive, Sweeping Sword and Whirlwind Cut. And I'm pretty sure they're getting an extra one after the revamp.

Reply August 7, 2015 - edited
Repentant

[quote=piana]@repentant: I highly doubt you'll do any combo while bossing for maximum damage output to be honest, aside from dodging attacks.
All they ever do is making Hayato more of an easier class to hold down a key.[/quote]
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but I don't think it's fair to dismiss Hayato combos on the grounds that it doesn't have "maximum damage output". I mean dodging attacks and moving into correct positioning is also very important when it comes to bossing. Being able to do both is something Hayatos excel at, so Hayato combos do very much have their place in bossing.

That said, I'm hoping the team behind this revamp made sure that our bossing skills are smooth and can seamlessly link into our other skills. I'm putting all my hopes that 1v1-Sanrenzan will meet this expectation; keydown Shinsoku is just weird.

"Combos for maximum damage output" seems like a playstyle that's more suited to Zeroes, to be honest. But the design philosophies behind both classes is a discussion that's best left for another thread.

@yearn Not that I'm against the idea of more damage, but I would prefer this way instead: make Hayato combos more appealing by introducing more boss fights where their skills can really shine - fights where there is a lot of movement and dodging involved. I had an absolute blast when I fought Lotus in Black Heaven. We need more of that kind of design.

Reply August 7, 2015 - edited
yearn

@piana. The only way to make comboing attacks appealing is by increasing their damage and damage cap to be more output than mashing 1-2keys

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited
chaiitea

Woohoo! It'd be cool to get the update during the winter update, but I have a feeling it'll come beforehand.

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited
Repentant

Someone correct me if my information is wrong, but Hayato has received two updates, [url=http://ayumilove.net/maplestory-update-highlights-msea-v146/]one that happened in MSEA[/url] and [url=http://uni-wz.com/blog-entry-2608.html]the most recent JMS revamp[/url].

So far GMS hasn't received any of those updates. It's not known which update Nexon was referring to [url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/news/current/00Igd/kanna-and-hayato-availability-suspended-aug-19]here[/url], but many of us are expecting the JMS version (or both the JMS and the MSEA update) to come later this year.

For more information (@eternalevan @cupidmage72 ):
- fully translated changelog of the JMS changes, credits to @DemoDango: [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2881777]http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2881777[/url]
- discussion thread for the JMS revamp, includes videos [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2880569]http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2880569[/url]

@piana: Eh, it's hard to say. That new stance system is disappointing, but it's not like any skills are being removed, so I don't think Hayato's playstyle will become worse. In fact we're getting new skills (new skills = new combos!)

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited
weredoggy

Jms is the bro-ist of MS. Shipping out complete content fast and beautifully

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited
cupidmage72

Does anyone have a changelog for what is gonna happen? Are we getting stronger?

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited
EternalEvan

Does anybody have a video or something? I don't really know what's going on... is it a revamp?

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited
WildHeartless

[quote=sabspirit]Wow! And I wasn't expecting it until Christmas! [/quote]

they did say "later this year"... which doesn't sound like in the next month or anything

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited
Thee1ne

OMG I'm so amped for this and definitely prepping for whats to come

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited
IDKsoMuch

[quote=demodango]Dear god I hope they roll the older update and the newest one on JMS together. I might have a reason to finally play this game again...[/quote]

What do you mean? o_O

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited
DemoDango

Dear god I hope they roll the older update and the newest one on JMS together. I might have a reason to finally play this game again...

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited
usmctyrell

if its good imma hop on the wagon lol

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited
Sabspirit

Wow! And I wasn't expecting it until Christmas!

Reply August 6, 2015 - edited