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Char Cards/BaM 5th Job Changes

I haven't seen any BaM threads about what we're getting in the upcoming fifth job :O
So I figured I'd just make one so we at least have a place to talk about it :<
Are you guys excited about the return of union aura as much as I am?
Would this return make buff duration more needed than +1 speed inner? :o
Oh and what character card sets do you guys have set up? I'm having trouble finding a solid set to use for myself. Currently my set-up is:
Kanna/Luminous/Evan
Hayato/MM/Kinesis
BT/Shade/Demon Avenger

July 5, 2016

23 Comments • Newest first

Revenants

@doomfire77 I'm unsure, however if it did, it would only add 400 damage on top of your damage... so it's practically useless. E.x you're hitting 10mils, you'll now hit 10.04mil rip.

Reply July 15, 2016
doomfire77

random question, since i see you guys are discussing character cards, would the thunderbreaker character card of 4 dmg per char lvl work on mages?

Reply July 15, 2016
VivaBasura

from being up half of the time to a third still a very powerful boost id take over a map skill anytime, not to mention we finally have our own scythe &lt;3

Reply July 15, 2016
Revenants

@pikalachu: Although leveling does not affect enhancement of skills, it does affect the amount of core slots you can use to enhance skills. According to orange mushroom, "when you first advance at level 200, there will be 4 slots available in the V Matrix. Every 6 levels after that, you will unlock another slot." Also I'm sad about the nerf of duration on Union aura :z, although there seems to be enhancement cores for BkB which I'm quite interested about x)

Reply July 14, 2016
pikalachu

@puffinssz: looks like i got some reading to do on orange mushroom.
thanks for the additional info.
50 secs duration with 180 cd is less than i anticipated i will admit

Reply July 14, 2016
puffinssz

5th job is live in kms

https://thimbleprojects.org/conserver/86305/

all skill cores' max levels are nerfed to 20, all enhancement cores' max levels are nerfed to 40. generally all classes were negatively affected by this, since they lowered the max levels while keeping scaling mostly similar.
maxed union aura lasts 50s with 150s cd, isn't affected by buff duration/cooldown resets, and our main attacking skills gain 80% final damage with maxed enhancement cores.

@pikalachu: you have to fuse similar cores to level them up, the skill levels aren't determined by level and sp afaik

core level changes are ehhh, not sure if it's good that we don't need to grind each one to 100, or bad because of all the losses

Reply July 14, 2016
pikalachu

im really excited for the return of union aura + new animation for blow while in union mode.
i do hope the new skills are affect by cooldown cutter and buff duration.
and even then, at lvl 50; 85 seconds duration with 180 seconds CD i believe, is decent.

as for my char cards, i use:
Battle mage / beast tamer / kinesis SS rank
shade / xenon / mechanic S rank (thinking of switching xenon for another pirate but dont know what
kanna / hayato / zero S rank (i switch zero with luminous when im not training.

since the reveal of 5th job, i want to get my BaM to at least 225-230 for extra hyper stats and more sp for 5th job. (if it does work with lvl and sp)

Reply July 14, 2016
FaZeUp

@vivabasura: i 1hit ko too lol, im just saying like a class like drk or something with 13k str can hit lines of 50m consistenly relative to us battle mages

I do use yellow ;o

oh i think you misunderstood me , i meant 30m each line for fb etc

Reply July 12, 2016 - edited
VivaBasura

@fazeup: waa o.o i have like 12k int and i 1hko completely fine at maze 5, u should totally use yellow
unless the only attack ure using is dark shock which i doubt lol

Reply July 12, 2016 - edited
FaZeUp

@littletlk: im at 19.5k int and i barely hit 30M at deck 1 even with dark aura, which i don't use due to yellow

no idea how much it takes to actually cap with finishing blow

Reply July 12, 2016 - edited
LittleTLK

Is buff duration confirmed to work with the 5th job skills?

Reply July 9, 2016 - edited
puffinssz

@vivabasura: prior to this patch the maxed enhancement core gave 300% final damage on fb, but the recent update just changed the cores too, so no idea how much final damage it can give now.
i was worried cause i thought fb would outscale the scythe attack, but looks like fb's enhancement cores will affect the scythe attack as well. furthermore our hyper passives for auras are applied during union aura
now that you mention it, it does sound (a little?) overpowered :O

Reply July 9, 2016 - edited
VivaBasura

oh it seems much better than i thought, at max level we will have union aura active half of the time, thats a lot of power o.o probably our 4th job enhancements wont be as good as other job's to keep it balanced
@puffinssz: scythe attack hits 12 times though how much does fully enhanced FB hit?

Reply July 9, 2016 - edited
puffinssz

they tweaked union aura in the most recent kmst patch

insoya thread: http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=maple_info&divpage=7&no=33876
google translated changes: http://puu.sh/pUR1o.png
(x means level of the skill)

i hope this doesn't mean that the union aura scythe attack will be weaker than normal fb with enhancement cores

Reply July 8, 2016 - edited
LittleTLK

@revenants:
Our DPS is higher if we consistently telecast. Otherwise, it's lower.
We are a control based class now. Telecasting is something like 40~60% of our damage.

And yes, 2m~2m is nothing on a bam, unfortunately. I'm just shy of it myself and I'm not even capping.
Total INT is a better metric for now. I'm at 11k.

Reply July 8, 2016 - edited
Revenants

@vivabasura: wow nice! , I've had my cra stuff scrolled since red and I perf'd my staff with +9's so I've been using a faf staff since then... it could be a possible speed loss since then that I feel a bit sluggish. I have pre much all my end-game stuff just bad pots on leg items :

Reply July 8, 2016 - edited
VivaBasura

@revenants: being 2m2m on a bam is nothing, ive been there few months after revamp even though i dont have a single primed item not even the complete CRA set, my (2) tyrants are on 6 stars, never upgraded to superior gollux.. and most my stuff is scrolled with those ugly +5 allstats RIP
and with the recent update its much easier now that the 40% final damage from battle rage shows on range o.o

Reply July 8, 2016 - edited
Revenants

@littletlk: Really? I still feel like poop compared to back then.. even now that I'm 2m2m. Well hopefully we're getting more great skills ;D

Reply July 7, 2016 - edited
Revenants

@vivabasura the dps we had previously with BkB and grandlight aura :&lt;.

Reply July 7, 2016 - edited
VivaBasura

@revenants: our old dps? we have like 1.5x our dps currently, and with this union aura its gonna be like 3x

Reply July 7, 2016 - edited
Revenants

@vivabasura: at max lvl the cd is 180 secs I believe so even with max buff duration from ia and card effects we should be able to return on union aura with a like 50-60 sec cd? not too sure on this.
I'm just glad we're getting some of our old dps back at least as well *~*

Reply July 6, 2016 - edited
VivaBasura

im excited too! though it lasts a minute with like 5mins cooldown? but anyway i love the insane burst also imagine it together with master of death itll make feel like im well funded
my set is not very solid either
luminous/kanna/BT ~magical storm
hayato/DA/DS ~powerful charge
shade/TB/jett ~pirate's way

Reply July 5, 2016 - edited