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5 crit better than 4.2k range?

Just got the zero crit ring for my f/p, which means I'll replace either my adventurer magical ring or my unleashed ring and was wondering which would be better to replace? keep in mind I can stack both the adventurer and the zero ring so that shouldn't be a problem.

I'm a lv 200 f/p btw

Unleashed ring:
6 int, 9 luk, 6 m. att
3L rare pot: 3% int

Adds 4.2k range if I replace the adventurer magical ring

Adventurer magical ring:
100 hp, 180 mp, 5 m. att,
5% crit, 20% crit min damage,

45% total crit min damage as a f/p

Zero gratias ring:
3/3/3/3, 300 hp/mp, 3 m. att
15% crit, 5% crit min damage

Crit % before no adventurer nor zero rings: 68%, 25% crit min damage
Crit % with adventurer: 73%, 45% crit min damage
Crit % with zero: 83%, 30% crit min damage
Crit % with both rings: 88%, 50% crit miin damage

614 m.att total clean If that info is needed

Thank you very much for any input, I really appreciate it

January 10, 2014

9 Comments • Newest first

riceypinoy

[quote=TripleBladez]@riceypinoy: For your Adventurer Magical Ring, I calculated the Average Critical Damage using Critical Rate * (Minimum Critical + Maximum Critical) / 2 + Non-Critical Rate.

0.73 * (1.45 + 1.5) / 2 + 0.27 = 1.34675x.

I did the same with Zero Gratias Ring adding onto the rates with your Adventurer Magical Ring.

0.88 * (1.5 + 1.5) / 2 + 0.12 = 1.44x.

Divide 1.44 by 1.34675 to get the difference in damage increase if you swapped the Unleashed Ring with a Zero Gratias Ring. That comes out to a 6.9% damage increase, which is 1.069x in the second post.[/quote]

alright thank you very much

Reply January 10, 2014
TripleBladez

@riceypinoy: For your Adventurer Magical Ring, I calculated the Average Critical Damage using Critical Rate * (Minimum Critical + Maximum Critical) / 2 + Non-Critical Rate.

0.73 * (1.45 + 1.5) / 2 + 0.27 = 1.34675x.

I did the same with Zero Gratias Ring adding onto the rates with your Adventurer Magical Ring.

0.88 * (1.5 + 1.5) / 2 + 0.12 = 1.44x.

Divide 1.44 by 1.34675 to get the difference in damage increase if you swapped the Unleashed Ring with a Zero Gratias Ring. That comes out to a 6.9% damage increase, which is 1.069x in the second post.

Reply January 10, 2014 - edited
riceypinoy

[quote=TripleBladez]177800 ~ 187200 * 1.069x = 190068 ~ 200116 > 181800 ~ 191300

Adventurer Magical Ring + Zero Gratias Ring is better.[/quote]

Alright, thanks for the info

Mind me asking how are you getting these numbers though, form this post and your other post?
Just so i know how to do it myself in the future

Reply January 10, 2014 - edited
TripleBladez

[quote=riceypinoy]unleashed + zero ring = 181.8k~191.3k
adventurer magical + zero ring = 177.8k~ 187.2k

these are without any range increasing buffs[/quote]

177800 ~ 187200 * 1.069x = 190068 ~ 200116 > 181800 ~ 191300

Adventurer Magical Ring + Zero Gratias Ring is better.

Reply January 10, 2014 - edited
justsofly

That 20% increase in minimum crit damage makes the 5% crit worth it.

Reply January 10, 2014 - edited
riceypinoy

[quote=TripleBladez]What's your current range without the Unleashed Ring?

Replacing the Unleashed Ring with Zero Gratias Ring yields a 6.9% increase in damage (1.44 / 1.34675).[/quote]
unleashed + zero ring = 181.8k~191.3k
adventurer magical + zero ring = 177.8k~ 187.2k

these are without any range increasing buffs

Reply January 10, 2014 - edited
TripleBladez

What's your current range without the Unleashed Ring?

Replacing the Unleashed Ring with Zero Gratias Ring yields a 6.9% increase in damage (1.44 / 1.34675).

Reply January 10, 2014 - edited
Rokani

We need your min crit, max crit, crit rate and your range for each load out.

Reply January 10, 2014 - edited
BerserkerKing

delete your f/p, make a hero and put all the rings on that hero

Reply January 10, 2014 - edited