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Ok umm I just realized I created a breeding ground for a flame war of sorts so thanks for the explanations in all the varieties they came in.

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Can you stop spamming that quote?

@TC: Top DPS depends on the situation. Paladins most likely have top DPS on bosses that stun, 1/1, or seduce often and/or on elemental weak bosses.

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And in regards to above. All the PDR, mastery, and etc were taken into account in the calculations. And there are calculations done for almost every scenario, 1v1 to 1v6. The calculations for larger mobs probably do not use enrage but for bosses, which are usually a single target, enrage does help.[/quote]

I wrote that post in a thread where people were comparing two classes blindly based on " higher % multiplier = always higher dpm ".

Speaking of DPM charts, I hope you realize that they aren't 100% absolute, and there is no such thing as perfect situation where a class can spam an attack until a boss is dead without any sort of interruption.

quote by the great ZEXEEN! (roflmfao such a smexy name):

It does not matter, it could be about control, missing 30% boss damage or insane difference in your damage ranges. Just so you know, GB is one of the few elemental weak bosses out there, Paladins are supposed to do better than Heroes there easily. For your information, with only 20k damage range buffed GB takes me over 25 mins.

On topic: You guys realize that it has been said millions of times before, don't you ? Having higher skill multiplier does not necessary mean higher DPM dealt, unless you're talking about pure potential on paper made up by math which does not even come close to reality, then yeah. There is no perfect situation with two classes having the same exact funding/control/etc, but for the sake of comparison, I will point out a few missing points here.

- Heroes have 70% mastery, Paladins have 94% mastery.

- Heroes can ignore 40% PDR, Paladins can ignore 51% PDR. (solo)

- Heroes's Enrage is one of their main skills that have to be used in any 1VS1 situation, so it can't be compared to any other buffs such DS.

- Paladins will always have access to extra 34 ATK buff from DS that stacks with any ATK pot.

- Paladins will always be able to achieve closer DPM to their perfect DPM due to Guardian, Stance, and their defensive style.

I will talk about this one since it seems everyone is underestimating Paladin's defensive style and what it's capable of.

First off, there is a giant difference between Hero's stance and Paladin's stance, 90% VS 94%, meaning 10% chance of getting KB'd VS 6% chance, which leads to Paladins getting KB'd 40% less than Heroes. Now, in a flat map getting KB'd more often might not affect the DPM that much, but getting KB'd out of a platform (which is the case in Pap & Arms stage in Zak/cZak) then getting spammed with statuses such control converting/inability to jump/stunning/1-1/etc makes it take longer than you think to get back on the platform again. Secondly, Guardian. This amazing skill blocks every type of attack, be it physical or magic or even 1/1 at 42% rate, not just that, it also prevents getting seduced at 32% rate, and feel free to imagine how can Heroes land a single attack in such situations, let alone higher DPM. Another thing Guardian can provide is blocking stunning skills such Bodyguard's A stunning attacks. You don't wanna know how annoying & time consuming it can get to be constantly stunned by such attacks.

So yeah, it's still possible for Paladins to deal close or equal, maybe even higher DPM than Heroes on single neutral targets.

I believe we top Hero's but only when Divine Shield is on (If you're skillful enough, you can have it on at all times)