Hypothetically Could this clear a scammers name?
Okay okay please, bear with me I am not a scammer of any sort Q_Q
However, I got bored and started thinking, what if I, or a friend, was randomly accused of scamming with a used card?
It got me thinking and I ended up with this:
[url=http://imgur.com/XgBzhlo]Does this SS provide enough evidence to show I haven't used any cards?[/url]
Imagine if the red blotched out things didn't exist (I don't want to show how much NX I've charged Q_Q)
As you can see, it would show my UNEDITED purchase history which wouldn't have any recently used cards! (sadly I've used a few and decided to red-out that so I'm not the PERFECT example)
The main character screen AND the history are shown refreshing together to prove that
it is not a stale NX log on one side with the
currently logged-in scammer under question characters on the other side.
Please find holes in my logic and aid me in ideas of fixing those said holes, such as better details to include in SS etc.
EDIT: Screw SS's I suppose, only videos could clear a name when I think about it
Edit-dit: Going to far extremes here, interesting though. Sounds equally as difficult to frame someone as it is to accuse, however.
Lesson of the Day, just be legit!
P.S. I am not Gateway/Gaetway/however you spell it.
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There really isn't anything that you can do about a false accusation of scamming. People will overwhelmingly side with the accuser. Assuming the accuser only does it once, he will get away with it.
[quote=epicderp]How about if you panned around the room beforehand to show no one else is in the room with you?[/quote]
-There's a delay in live feed (nothing you can do about it)
-You could have a security camera in your room through which a friend is viewing, allowing him to input the NX code
-Friend is in the room wearing all green clothing in front of a greenscreen
-Friend hides in the blind spot of the camera while you pan
[quote=leopard16]I doubt even with videographic evidence will clear your name.
S> nx: film your self scratching the card, and typing it to the customer, but your friend is behind you and is typing at a faster rate, claiming the card before you hit enter.
B> nx: film your self redeeming the code, but your friend is behind you and is typing at a faster rate, claiming the card before "you".[/quote]
Funnily enough, people who actually got scammed tend to be rather stubborn about their innocence. What you suggested would work the first time, might even work the second time. But if it happens multiple times in a row and people keep smegaing/telling their BL and guild/talking to the guild master, the scammer will eventually be kicked out of their guild with their reputation destroyed. And then they'll have to start from the ground up, with no reputation or vouchers, and be unable to get any intelligent person to go first.
Works in reverse too of course, a person with a grudge can destroy someone's reputation like this, but if they're actually legit it'll take quite a bit more effort than most people would consider worth it. And they'll be sinking their own reputation while they try to take down someone else's.
So it's a pretty solid system we have atm. The well established players are usually safe, with their reputations and networks of vouchers, while newer/poorer players know that people with good reputations are probably safe to trade with. Admittedly, it would be a lot more convenient if Nexon would just let us trade over 10 B, but that's probably not happening anytime soon.
@maj48 my boys be waking me up via skype f3
[quote=DeprivedChild]Called the cops already you scammer[/quote]
The only thing hes guilty of (afaik) is indecent elven exposure
Also apparently airplane isnt wlfy (sorry airplane)
[quote=DeprivedChild]Called the cops already you scammer[/quote]
-GaytWey Voice-
hahaha where ur pruf kid
kid such a kiddy kid kid
Kid.
Called the cops already you scammer
[quote=maj48]If this is about what happened to me yesterday, what ended up happening was the scammer actually emailed me his nx history, claiming he didnt use the card in an attempt to cover himself up. Later though he admitted to scamming so I presume he did what the first poster said and redeemed it on another account. I only have the ss of his nx history for proof of my claim, so you can believe me if you want.
EDIT: Gatewey was also hacekd by WLFY (aka airplane aka vvxdualxvv aka presetion). He made a new char with the ign and bragged to me in game (again i dont think i screenshotted but id be happy to check) so yeah I doubt youd be gatewey .[/quote]
It stemmed off a thought train from yesterday's events, so in a way yes!
Hooray for story time too
[quote=Snowman]I prefer having windows bar hidden, but I'll take note of that as well
Probably use a basil clock somewhere or something
EDIT:
@leopard16: Devious. LOL[/quote]
If this is about what happened to me yesterday, what ended up happening was the scammer actually emailed me his nx history, claiming he didnt use the card in an attempt to cover himself up. Later though he admitted to scamming so I presume he did what the first poster said and redeemed it on another account. I only have the ss of his nx history for proof of my claim, so you can believe me if you want.
EDIT: Gatewey was also hacekd by WLFY (aka airplane aka vvxdualxvv aka presetion). He made a new char with the ign and bragged to me in game (again i dont think i screenshotted but id be happy to check) so yeah I doubt youd be gatewey .
[quote=epicderp]How about if you panned around the room beforehand to show no one else is in the room with you?[/quote]
your friend can hide himself, come in after panning the room, and im not sure about this one, but i think you can also use apple tv
[quote=leopard16]I doubt even with videographic evidence will clear your name.
S> nx: film your self scratching the card, and typing it to the customer, but your friend is behind you and is typing at a faster rate, claiming the card before you hit enter.
B> nx: film your self redeeming the code, but your friend is behind you and is typing at a faster rate, claiming the card before "you".[/quote]
How about if you panned around the room beforehand to show no one else is in the room with you?
[quote=Blackest]the picture you showed doesn't show today's date either. you could have taken that SS about a week ago[/quote]
I prefer having windows bar hidden, but I'll take note of that as well
Probably use a basil clock somewhere or something
EDIT:
@leopard16: Devious. LOL
[quote=Snowman]Butt, I really [i]can't[/i] lie. D:
Interesting though, never knew you could do that.
I shall freely assume that only a video would be sufficient enough, jah?[/quote]
I doubt even with videographic evidence will clear your name.
S> nx: film your self scratching the card, and typing it to the customer, but your friend is behind you and is typing at a faster rate, claiming the card before you hit enter.
B> nx: film your self redeeming the code, but your friend is behind you and is typing at a faster rate, claiming the card before "you".
[quote=Snowman]Butt, I really [i]can't[/i] lie. D:
Interesting though, never knew you could do that.
I shall freely assume that only a video would be sufficient enough, jah?[/quote]
even a video could be edited to fake proof, but 99% of the time this is not the case
@Blackest this is true. if there was a transaction made the day of the ss, it would prove that there were no card redemptions in between
Yeah, video is really the only way to prove it. However, false accusations of scamming are pretty rare. If someone tries to pull it twice in a row, they start looking bad. And if they have no/bad history (new account) while you are relatively well trusted, people will tend to side with you. It's a good idea to video record every time you do any transactions requiring trust though, just in case.
the picture you showed doesn't show today's date either. you could have taken that SS about a week ago
[quote=xBustyAngelz]Inspect element, [url=http://imgur.com/zN1m60X]For example[/url][/quote]
Butt, I really [i]can't[/i] lie. D:
Interesting though, never knew you could do that.
I shall freely assume that only a video would be sufficient enough, jah?
Gaytway*
Inspect element, [url=http://imgur.com/zN1m60X]For example[/url]
What ^ Said.
You can just redeem it on a mule account and ss ur main's history. No proof.
It doesn't confirm that the account with the history is yours because nothing but nx is shown.