Another Basilmarket Censorship Issue
Yes, it's a discussion about the legalization of same sex marriage...again. Sorry.
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2884799/1/Gay_marriage_now_allowed.html#46456781
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2884821/4/Gay_Marriage_Legalized_Nationwide___when_will_nexon_.html#46457239
These two threads were locked, due to its inappropriate and flame bait topic. I disagree completely with the moderator who closed it. This is completely unjust, and I have to speak out.
I don't care whether this thread changes anything, because voicing what you believe is right always makes a difference.
For something that was legalized nationwide today, locking a thread on a related subject is a complete slap in the face to the decision of US Supreme Court. This discussion is well within the rules of Basilmarket. Locking something so that you don't have to deal with flamers is cowardly, and lazy. Just because something is prone to flame wars, doesn't mean it should be stopped beforehand.
Fighting against injustices like censorship is the whole reason that the legalization occurred int he first place.
If we were to stop discussions because there were haters in the world, the legalization of same sex marriage wouldn't even occur in the first place.
In addition, if we're allowed to discuss the same sex legalization, what suddenly makes it forbidden to discuss it being implemented in Maplestory? Real life is OK, but a kids game is off limits? This is preposterous. I've made a thread before about the censorship, but obviously nothing (much) has changed. If you'd care to look (though you probably are not), you may refer to the ones below.
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2854926
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2854934
Thank you for your time.
EDIT: Clearly, I need a lesson in spelling. Yes, the title is supposed to say Another* Censorship Issue.
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[quote=sparkshooter]I concede. I make these kinds of threads often, but always forget my drive a few days later.
I just feel as though some threads are so easily shut down because it's one of those "socially/politically taboo subjects," when in reality, it's not. Why can't a thread just be let be, and simply suspend the necessary rule-breakers. Locking a thread just because people are getting erased just punishes people who want to discuss, and protects the other potential rule-breakers.[/quote]
I was aware of that, so I tried to centralise the discussion in the thread in the Chat section rather than deleting all threads and declaring the complete subject taboo. In hindsight I should at the very least have included a link to the thread in Chat rather than just saying there's another thread and letting the users look for it.
I think your anger was justified, by the way.
[quote=Pavchka]Well, I ate brain once... That took guts. It doesn't taste like much, by the way.
I locked only one of those threads and that one most certainly wasn't locked beforehand. I don't know if you saw the full extent of the damage done in that thread, but at least one account was claimed and more would follow. I knew there was a second thread, but decided not to touch it.
You completely misunderstood my intentions. If I'd been as cowardly and lazy as you apparently make me out to be, I'd have locked that thread, the other threads, [i]and[/i] the thread in the Chat section without giving my identity away - or rather, I'd never have accepted this job in the first place. I didn't lock the thread because I wanted to protect people's fragile little egos from teh ebol flames, or because I didn't want to have to do a job I'd rather leave to another guy; I locked it because people were getting [i]erased[/i] in there.[/quote]
I concede. I make these kinds of threads often, but always forget my drive a few days later.
I just feel as though some threads are so easily shut down because it's one of those "socially/politically taboo subjects," when in reality, it's not. Why can't a thread just be let be, and simply suspend the necessary rule-breakers. Locking a thread just because people are getting erased just punishes people who want to discuss, and protects the other potential rule-breakers.
Even if it was out of a homophobia issue, why would it matter? Its not like a site that discusses a rated E game needs to even have an opinion. Just relax man, this site will run smoother without being a place of political chitter chatter.
Well, I ate brain once... That took guts. It doesn't taste like much, by the way.
I locked only one of those threads and that one most certainly wasn't locked beforehand. I don't know if you saw the full extent of the damage done in that thread, but at least one account was claimed and more would follow. I knew there was a second thread, but decided not to touch it.
You completely misunderstood my intentions. If I'd been as cowardly and lazy as you apparently make me out to be, I'd have locked that thread, the other threads, [i]and[/i] the thread in the Chat section without giving my identity away - or rather, I'd never have accepted this job in the first place. I didn't lock the thread because I wanted to protect people's fragile little egos from teh ebol flames, or because I didn't want to have to do a job I'd rather leave to another guy; I locked it because people were getting [i]erased[/i] in there.
@sparkshooter As indicated both here and in the comment when the first thread was locked, the discussion had strayed far beyond even the most tenuous connection to Maplestory, making it inappropriate for inclusion in General Maplestory.
The same issue has been beaten to death many times and there's nothing anyone can do about it except Nexon.
Discussions of the subject ARE appropriate in Chat, where they are alive and well.
Just looking at the posts the first thread received in the short time it was open, I can see why it was closed. You can't expect civilized discussion about a societal issue when you're posting it as an auxiliary topic in the Maplestory section. That kind of stuff should be left to the Chat section alone. Just take a look at what @xMaxyGod posted if you want a good example of why that thread was locked.
There's a reason topics are broken up into sections; Maplestory players probably don't want to read about political crap and Chat-goers probably don't want to hear about the latest NX item.
they don't want to take any chances i guess. there's a possibility that kids are here and that could hurt them