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When to use panic and puncture

Hey, does anybody have calculations for when its worth it to use panic/puncture?
*cough* @Rexaar -stares-
Since it probably matters, I'm at 78% crit

October 28, 2015

3 Comments • Newest first

GeneralStore

The count might be a bit higher if you factor in the animation length/delay.

Reply October 30, 2015
Rexaar

You panic if the monster take more than 5 hits to kill.
You puncture if it take more than 19 hits to kill at 35% crit rate. (Enrage crit chance and hyper included)
You puncture ASAP if you are in a party because it a party buff.

Puncture: Damage: 576%, Number of Hits: 3, Max Enemies Hit: 6, 100% chance of Damage Over Time: 165% damage every 2 sec for 30 seconds, Critical Damage: +20%, Party Critical Damage: +10%
Raging Blow (Enraged): Damage: 268% + 10% = 278% * 1.2 = 333.6, Number of Hits: 5(6), Final Two Hits Critical Hit Rate: 100%
Advanced Combo: +12% final damage increase per orb that ignore critical
Enrage: +60% final damage increase that ignore critical, +15% min crit
With 35% min crit, 50% max crit, (50+35)/2 = 42.5% average crit damage, 333.6% * 0.425 = 141.78% crit damage per line for Raging Blow (Enraged)
With 55% min crit, 70% max crit (after puncture), (70+55)/2 = 62.5% average crit damage, 333.6% * 0.625 = 208.5% crit damage per line for Raging Blow (Enraged)

Normal damage and crit damage will be separated. Chance Attack not included because it's a final damage increase that affect critical so it can be factored out. AFA not included cause I'm lazy, and it glitched atm. Puncture DOT not included because it is based off of your maximum damage in your stat window.

10 attacks (35% crit rate)

Without puncture: (10 raging Blow)
--Normal damage: 2.2 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 10 attacks = 70456.32% normal damage
--Crit Damage: 60 lines of damage, 20 guaranteed crits, 40 * 0.35 crit rate = 14 more crit lines, 34 * 141.78% = 4820.52% crit damage
--total: 70456.32% + 4820.52% = 75276.84%

With Puncture: (1 Puncture, 9 Raging Blow (enraged))
--Normal damage
>>>2.2 * 1.6 * 576% Puncture * 3 hits * 1 attacks = 6082.56% normal damage
>>>1.72 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 1 attack + 1.96 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 1 attack = 11785.41% normal damage
>>>2.2 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 7 attacks = 49319.42% normal damage
>>>total: 6082.56% + 11785.41% + 49319.42% = 67187.39% normal damage
--Crit Damage
>>>Puncture crit damage: 576% * 0.425 = 244.8%, 244.8% * 3 = 734.4%
>>>54 lines of damage, 18 guaranteed crits, 36 * 0.35 crit rate = 12.6 more crit lines, 30.6 * 208.5% = 6380.1% crit damage
>>>total: 734.4% + 6380.1% = 7114.5% crit damage
--total: 67187.39% normal damage + 7114.5% crit damage = 74301.89%

19 attacks (35% crit rate)
Without puncture: (18 raging Blow)
--Normal damage: 2.2 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 19 attacks = 133867.01% normal damage
--Crit Damage: 114 lines of damage, 38 guaranteed crits, 76 * 0.35 crit rate = 26.6 more crit lines, 64.6 * 141.78% = 9158.99% crit damage
--total: 133867.01% normal damage + 9158.99% crit damage = 143026%

With Puncture (1 Puncture, 18 Raging Blow (enraged))
--Normal damage
>>>2.2 * 1.6 * 576% Puncture * 3 hits * 1 attacks = 6082.56% normal damage
>>>1.72 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 1 attack + 1.96 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 1 attack = 11785.41% normal damage
>>>2.2 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 16 attacks = 112730.11% normal damage
>>>total: 6082.56% + 11785.41% + 112730.11% = 130598.08% normal damage
--Crit Damage
>>>Puncture crit damage: 576% * 0.425 = 244.8%, 244.8% * 3 = 734.4%
>>>108 lines of damage, 36 guaranteed crits, 72 * 0.35 crit rate = 25.2 more crit lines, 61.2 * 208.5% = 12760.2% crit damage
>>>total: 734.4% + 12760.2% = 13494.6% crit damage
--total: 130598.08% normal damage + 13494.6% crit damage = 144092.68%

17 attacks (78% crit rate)
Without puncture: (17 raging Blow)
--Normal damage: 2.2 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 17 attacks = 119775.74% normal damage
--Crit Damage: 102 lines of damage, 34 guaranteed crits, 68 * 0.78 crit rate = 53.04 more crit lines, 87.04 * 141.78% = 12340.53% crit damage
--total: 119775.74% normal damage + 12340.53% crit damage = 132116.27%

With Puncture (1 Puncture, 16 Raging Blow (enraged))
--Normal damage
>>>2.2 * 1.6 * 576% Puncture * 3 hits * 1 attacks = 6082.56% normal damage
>>>1.72 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 1 attack + 1.96 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 1 attack = 11785.41% normal damage
>>>2.2 * 1.6 * 333.6% Raging Blow * 6 hits * 14 attacks = 98638.85% normal damage
>>>total: 6082.56% + 11785.41% + 98638.85% = 116506.82% normal damage
--Crit Damage
>>>Puncture crit damage: 576% * 0.425 = 244.8%, 244.8% * 3 = 734.4%
>>>96 lines of damage, 32 guaranteed crits, 64 * 0.78 crit rate = 49.92 more crit lines, 81.92 * 208.5% = 17080.32% crit damage
>>>total: 734.4% + 17080.32% = 17814.72% crit damage
--total: 116506.82% normal damage + 17814.72% crit damage = 134321.54%

You puncture if it take more than 17 hits to kill at 78% crit rate. (Enrage crit chance and hyper included)

Basilmarket please, why remove the quote code.

Reply October 29, 2015 - edited