Unscheduled Maintenance - February 7, 2013
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[url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/maintenance/announcements/00FjG/unscheduled-maintenance-february-7-2013]WTF nexon up to this time[/url]
February 8, 2013
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just woke up and still have prot scroll and bunch of stuff yay! but this time im gonna do legit way
@triiggerhappy: Look, you're not making any logical statements. First, @asianpeople: made a ton of arguments in her first comment, which you never responded to. All you did was bring out that she's wearing an empress cape, which is irrelevant. You're saying that this world is messed up and people do bad things. That is true, however, not everyone is like that. Just because everyone does the things YOU do, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Yes, this game is pay to win, but nobody's FORCING you to buy NX. This glitch was originally not meant to be here, it was an error. You're saying that WE deserve this because nexon doesn't do anything for us. Well, let me tell you something, this game is Free to Play, Pay to Win. If you can't deal with that, might as well quit. Also, if you can't make a logical statement, it's better to just not post it on a public forum.
Guess I won't be able to get a stamp today. Thanks, Nexon!
[quote=Fatalerror]well i'm glad i got my attendance late last night, totally worth almost being late to work
also <3 my summeroid[/quote]
I wish i got a summeroid
well i'm glad i got my attendance late last night, totally worth almost being late to work
also <3 my summeroid
yay compensation
[quote=Request]I haven't spent a single penny on this game and I managed to be above average. It just takes time and willpower.[/quote]
It also takes luck. I have gotten horrendous drops from literally every boss run I have been in, including Root Abyss
[quote=MybulIets]Extended to midnight now Good Job Nexon.[/quote]
it's extended to 1A.M. now -___-
[quote=AsianPeople]@ClassOf12
And you don't have to spend real money/take advantage of exploits to be capable of killing the tougher bosses.[/quote]
I still have fun (mostly Root Abyss duos when I can be bothered to play because it's easy), but I have yet to see anyone actually accomplish this without spending any money on NX/hacking.
[quote=ikea12311]majoring in economics.
right.
more like majoring in bullshiat[/quote]
PM me whatever you want about macro/micro economics, econometrics, or anything. I'll answer. We can skype if you want, you dbag
.. they extended it again?
Extended to midnight now Good Job Nexon.
@ClassOf12
You don't need to have the best/profitable items in the game to have fun. And you don't have to spend real money/take advantage of exploits to be capable of killing the tougher bosses.
My major is economics...and I actually LOL at how people talk about maple economy so wrongly, when some of the principles do not even apply to the game.
@triiggerhappy
>The economy was definitely not always like this. Having 100m mesos was a lot and having 1b was considered rich. Now having 1b is average and to be rich you need to have 5b+.
I have 50m right now. I spent nothing on my overall, shoes, belt, face acc, rings, shoulder. I spent maybe 500m per equip for my earrings, hat, gloves, and claw. I bought epic pot scrolls when they were still tradable, I used the 100% epic pot event scrolls to my advantage. I have achieved a 6-digit range with mostly rare and epic gear. I have TWO unique items. It's not about money, it's about the person who has the money, and how they choose to spend it.
>Anything below 1b is considered poor.
Who the hell cares.
>Their are still duped items out there. I still see 27 att vss and att racc masks floating around the market. Most may have been deleted but their still out there.
Point is that the items are being deleted, it's a matter of time before those items are gone, too.
>czak would be impossible with out a party to do so. So would all the other major bosses out there.
As I said: [b]You could also work together with other people to bring big bosses down.[/b] It shouldn't be a solo effort, maple is multiplayer game, and it's about time people act realize it.
>There are far more than just a few pink scrolls. The point about pink scrolls though is that it is a far worse game breaking issue than this glitch. As it took less time than this feather glitch to pull off. Not to mention dupers who duped the crap out of those to even make them more abundance.
I'm not even going to argue this anymore. It's irrelevant. Drop it.
>Taking out the npc still didn't 'Fix' the problem. Those scrolls still existed and still exist today. If Nexon truely cared about gamebreaking issues than they would have deleted those with the other items they deleted. Since the feather glitch involved cash items it was patch quickly. I assure you though if it gave out 60% scrolls or some crap like that it wouldn't been patched at all.
I agree with you on that, nexon handled it poorly. It would have been nice if they had deleted them or something, but what's done is done.
@ResisTheWild
Could you link us to that? Sound awesome
[quote=fenaralan]I will.[/quote]
Whoops. I forgot that people could have done the quest earlier today.
[quote=AsianPeople]Why is that? Yes, a 20k range won't allow you to solo the 'bigger' bosses, [b]but with 5/11 other people with 20k ranges, you can kill almost anything[/b], short of Magnus, empress, and PB. (Possibly CHTP/Czak? Too many variables to consider.)[/quote]
Have you actually attempted this before? The hardest bosses that are doable with 20k range chars is normal root abyss, and that's assuming your party doesn't run it's kill count down too fast.
Also the bosses you mentioned are the only bosses that are actually profitable to kill in the first place.
[quote=Rinax]Every single person won't be getting their premium dice. Oh, well. [/quote]
I will.
[quote=ResisTheWild]Just on your 20k range point, there is a video on youtube of a paladin with a 15k range soloing Czak.[/quote]
That's impressive if true? He solo it or was someone with him? Would like to see this video.
Every single person won't be getting their premium dice. Oh, well.
[quote=triiggerhappy]-Not sure how 1b can get you a lot in this game. Most gear is at minium of 100m mesos. You be lucky to get a few epic gear from 1b. Definitely no uniquest unless they are crapped cubed with no %. Do even get a decent range in this game you need a minimum of max mesos.
-The economy was definitely not always like this. Having 100m mesos was a lot and having 1b was considered rich. Now having 1b is average and to be rich you need to have 5b+. Anything below 1b is considered poor.
-Their are still duped items out there. I still see 27 att vss and att racc masks floating around the market. Most may have been deleted but their still out there.
-20k range you still be struggling to get zak done within the time limit. czak would be impossible with out a party to do so. So would all the other major bosses out there.
-There are far more than just a few pink scrolls. The point about pink scrolls though is that it is a far worse game breaking issue than this glitch. As it took less time than this feather glitch to pull off. Not to mention dupers who duped the crap out of those to even make them more abundance.
-Taking out the npc still didn't 'Fix' the problem. Those scrolls still existed and still exist today. If Nexon truely cared about gamebreaking issues than they would have deleted those with the other items they deleted. Since the feather glitch involved cash items it was patch quickly. I assure you though if it gave out 60% scrolls or some crap like that it wouldn't been patched at all.[/quote]
Just on your 20k range point, there is a video on youtube of a paladin with a 15k range soloing Czak.
[quote=AsianPeople]>Hmm so you telling me that even having 1b mesos and still not able to afford crap in the market is stabilized
I didn't say that. And 1b gets you quite a lot. Maybe you're just doing something wrong. Try offering people, and/or planning what you're going to do with your money.
>Maybe you just started playing when Aran released or something bc if you think this economy we have now is stabilized then idk
Player since v0.11. Try again. The maple economy has ALWAYS been like this.
>With all the recent dupes and other crap that's been done
Recent dupes? 8 months ago isn't recent. And most duped items have since been deleted.
>20k range won't get you really anywhere in this game sorry to say but you won't be doing any major bosses unless you really don't care about that.
Wrong. You just can't solo bosses quickly. You could also work together with other people to bring big bosses down.
>Lastly, the pink scroll thing did take a few mins. You just needed to make a new account which took no more than 10mins of your time
Wrong. You had to level the aran, then talk to an NPC, among other things. And again, the pink scroll exploit isn't very relevant here. It is long-gone, and few 50% scrolls still exist.
>Nexon didn't do crap
They got rid of the related NPC in all towns within a week.
>. So if you are going to be snitching about this issue and stating how "game breaking" it is. Then please do so for that issue as well.
What? Again, [b]this isn't very relevant[/b]. What the hell does this even mean?
>Then please do so for that issue as well.
?
Yes, the pink scroll exploit was awful, yes, I think it was bad. But, NO, my stance on it has nothing to do with the feather exploit.[/quote]
-Not sure how 1b can get you a lot in this game. Most gear is at minium of 100m mesos. You be lucky to get a few epic gear from 1b. Definitely no uniquest unless they are crapped cubed with no %. Do even get a decent range in this game you need a minimum of max mesos.
-The economy was definitely not always like this. Having 100m mesos was a lot and having 1b was considered rich. Now having 1b is average and to be rich you need to have 5b+. Anything below 1b is considered poor.
-Their are still duped items out there. I still see 27 att vss and att racc masks floating around the market. Most may have been deleted but their still out there.
-20k range you still be struggling to get zak done within the time limit. czak would be impossible with out a party to do so. So would all the other major bosses out there.
-There are far more than just a few pink scrolls. The point about pink scrolls though is that it is a far worse game breaking issue than this glitch. As it took less time than this feather glitch to pull off. Not to mention dupers who duped the crap out of those to even make them more abundance.
-Taking out the npc still didn't 'Fix' the problem. Those scrolls still existed and still exist today. If Nexon truely cared about gamebreaking issues than they would have deleted those with the other items they deleted. Since the feather glitch involved cash items it was patch quickly. I assure you though if it gave out 60% scrolls or some crap like that it wouldn't been patched at all.
so... looks like i missed the everyday event. Thanks maintenence
[quote=ClassOf12]Your counterpoint was wrong[/quote]
Why is that? Yes, a 20k range won't allow you to solo the 'bigger' bosses, but with 5/11 other people with 20k ranges, you can kill almost anything, short of Magnus, empress, and PB. (Possibly CHTP/Czak? Too many variables to consider.)
And I don't understand how 20k range was brought up to begin with. I stated that I ADDED 20k to my range in the past few weeks. Not that I got to 20k range.
[quote=AsianPeople]I don't agree, but what point are you trying to make?[/quote]
Your counterpoint was wrong
[quote=ClassOf12]Every boss that drops anything useful has a time limit. A 20k range will make you a liability[/quote]
I don't agree, but what point are you trying to make?
[quote=triiggerhappy]Well tha tfully proves my point of how much more gamebreaking that is than this glitch today.
@Azngothopz Once again getting empress gear is far from being easy to get. No average Joe can get any empress gear. You need an above average range to do so which to get you need a few billion mesos. Not everyone has a few billion or even a billion mesos.[/quote]
So let me get this straight, because not everyone has a few bill, you automatically assume she doesn't have a few bill to get it legitly hence shes a hacker and that somehow magically throws all her arguments out the window.
[quote=AsianPeople]>20k range won't get you really anywhere in this game sorry to say but you won't be doing any major bosses unless you really don't care about that.
Wrong. You just can't solo bosses quickly. You could also work together with other people to bring big bosses down.[/quote]
Every boss that drops anything useful has a time limit. A 20k range will make you a liability
[quote=triiggerhappy]Hmm so you telling me that even having 1b mesos and still not able to afford crap in the market is stabilized? Maybe you just started playing when Aran released or something bc if you think this economy we have now is stabilized then idk.. The game economy is far from stabilized. With all the recent dupes and other crap that's been done. It's screwed up. 20k range won't get you really anywhere in this game sorry to say but you won't be doing any major bosses unless you really don't care about that. Lastly, the pink scroll thing did take a few mins. You just needed to make a new account which took no more than 10mins of your time. Then rinse and repeat. Damage has been done but my point with that is that Nexon didn't do crap and hardly anyone cared as much. So if you are going to be snitching about this issue and stating how "game breaking" it is. Then please do so for that issue as well.[/quote]
>Hmm so you telling me that even having 1b mesos and still not able to afford crap in the market is stabilized
I didn't say that. And 1b gets you quite a lot. Maybe you're just doing something wrong. Try offering people, and/or planning what you're going to do with your money.
>Maybe you just started playing when Aran released or something bc if you think this economy we have now is stabilized then idk
Player since v0.11. Try again. The maple economy has ALWAYS been like this.
>With all the recent dupes and other crap that's been done
Recent dupes? 8 months ago isn't recent. And most duped items have since been deleted.
>20k range won't get you really anywhere in this game sorry to say but you won't be doing any major bosses unless you really don't care about that.
Wrong. You just can't solo bosses quickly. You could also work together with other people to bring big bosses down.
>Lastly, the pink scroll thing did take a few mins. You just needed to make a new account which took no more than 10mins of your time
Wrong. You had to level the aran, then talk to an NPC, among other things. And again, the pink scroll exploit isn't very relevant here. It is long-gone, and few 50% scrolls still exist.
>Nexon didn't do crap
They got rid of the related NPC in all towns within a week.
>. So if you are going to be snitching about this issue and stating how "game breaking" it is. Then please do so for that issue as well.
What? Again, [b]this isn't very relevant[/b]. What the hell does this even mean?
>Then please do so for that issue as well.
?
Yes, the pink scroll exploit was awful, yes, I think it was bad. But, NO, my stance on it has nothing to do with the feather exploit.
[quote=triiggerhappy]Snitches to Nexon about the feather glitch. Seriously, all these moral people get off your high horse. It isn't gamebreaking and there are far worse glitches and hacks and exploits than this one. All untradable as well. Really want to pay tons of nx for those shield wards and innocence and lucky days?[/quote]
That's like saying It's okay to steal a bank because do you really want to work all your life? Stop the snitch....
It's very retarded.
[quote=NopeLOL]I don't see how being above average makes her wrong.[/quote]
My point wasn't directed to her. My point was directed to the people that say how easily beating v2 or empress is.
did the maintenance get extended or something cuz its well past the time they said it was going to be back up?
Most will become jaded with the limitations of the game and that's why nexon is striving so hard to keep it fresh and enticing for its community. I do agree with the points made in the quote because I've been playing this game since the launch of GMS and up til today I've had an off and on involvement in MS. But nowadays its too overwhelming due to most of my original friends quiting and the state of the market and how competition for power has molded the game to be something like "keeping up with the Joneses"
I was on the web recently and came across an article that gave an interview with the CEO of nexon and he himself says that they market and structure this and many of their other games to keep users for generations of play time. meaning they want their players to pass down their addiction to others and hey its been working like a charm so far. They make mad profits off of this mentality; which has lead nexon to be a gigantic earner in the MMORPG world, they recently have been in talks of BUYing over EA games and they are an internationally established company. This is where your allowance and pay checks are going. It's feeding other families and paying other peoples' bills.
If you have no problem with that then so be it but if you weren't aware of this before now, I wonder how it makes you feel.
There's a great movie that came out last year called, "Branded" and its a overview of the introduction of Marketing and how it's effected the world we live in. Did you know that it started in Russia under the their leader at the time (early 1900s) Vladmir Lenin. Which resulted in the Russian propaganda movement that would later effect the entire world and create what we know today as Advertising. What we don't consciously realize is that through clever marketing/advertising and design we are lead to believe and think in certain ways; it's an effect that reaches our inner most consciousness, slowly hypnotizing us and molding us to the Global consumerist needs of the markets. It's an orchestrated machine that guides the masses to perceive what they want us to see, what we should think beauty is, what 'cool' is, what health is, and most of all your purpose in Life is.
If you didn't know that, I wonder how you feel about it now?
Don't be a slave to the Matrix..
Whose to say im not molding you're image of what is right and wrong with these words. the difference is im the man hiding behind the curtain whose giving you the backstage pass.
Branded Trailors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HInOg12jMiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKUTs3w9LEk
Nexon Article:
http://pandodaily.com/2012/05/01/inside-nexons-world-an-exclusive-sit-down-with-the-korean-mogul-rumored-to-be-eyeing-ea/
[quote=ClassOf12]You didn't even need to do this. You just had to delete the Aran after you storage the scroll and make another one[/quote]
Well tha tfully proves my point of how much more gamebreaking that is than this glitch today.
@Azngothopz Once again getting empress gear is far from being easy to get. No average Joe can get any empress gear. You need an above average range to do so which to get you need a few billion mesos. Not everyone has a few billion or even a billion mesos.
[quote=triiggerhappy]You just needed to make a new account which took no more than 10mins of your time. Then rinse and repeat.[/quote]
You didn't even need to do this. You just had to delete the Aran after you storage the scroll and make another one
[quote=triiggerhappy]and yet you wear an empress cape. Which most likely was hacked up from hacking empress. Therefore, your whole point you are trying to make has failed. So get out.[/quote]
So let me get this straight.... she wears an empress cape (which can legitly obtained quite easily) and somehow magically all her arguments are out the window. I think you just won an award for the worst debater on basil today.
[quote=AsianPeople]@triiggerhappy
For all those people lying, cheating and stealing, there are people who AREN'T lying, cheating, and stealing. You don't hear about those people. You only hear about the bad ones. What I do and do not believe is irrelevant here, the feather exploit was just that; [b]an exploit[/b]. A mistake. A glitch. It wasn't supposed to be there.
In regards to the pink scrolls, that was years ago. The damage is done, and now 50% scrolls go for about $5~6 each. No, they didn't take "a few minutes" to get.
And "stabilize the economy"? Maple's economy is stable. Introducing tons of untradable items isn't going to influence anything. Maybe people won't buy protects/lucky day/innocence scrolls from NX sellers for a while, who knows? None of those items were in the FM to begin with.
And for the love of god, [b]no one is forcing anyone to buy NX[/b]. I used to buy lots of NX, but for the last few months, I haven't been buying anything. And yet I still managed to add nearly 20k to my range in the last 6 weeks.
All of your economics don't make an ounce of sense. o.o
Edit: More likes? That's cute. Many people on this site [i]would[/i] agree with your logical fallacies.
@kidpapafluff We happen to have the same hat, and a similar hair. Hardly comparable.[/quote]
Hmm so you telling me that even having 1b mesos and still not able to afford crap in the market is stabilized? Maybe you just started playing when Aran released or something bc if you think this economy we have now is stabilized then idk.. The game economy is far from stabilized. With all the recent dupes and other crap that's been done. It's screwed up. 20k range won't get you really anywhere in this game sorry to say but you won't be doing any major bosses unless you really don't care about that. Lastly, the pink scroll thing did take a few mins. You just needed to make a new account which took no more than 10mins of your time. Then rinse and repeat. Damage has been done but my point with that is that Nexon didn't do crap and hardly anyone cared as much. So if you are going to be snitching about this issue and stating how "game breaking" it is. Then please do so for that issue as well.
Basilmarket's finest thread of the week.
[quote=z3non]It still drops deathcount by 1 in magnus though lol. That's not a big deal really. And that's bad on my part, didn't see any threads on it.[/quote]
Still makes V2 runs much easier than they should be, especially with Empress having the attack patterns that were implemented in a recent patch (eg tornados facing any direction now)
[quote=ClassOf12][url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=63133&p=1084125&viewfull=1#post1084125]It does[/url][/quote]
It still drops deathcount by 1 in magnus though lol. That's not a big deal really. And that's bad on my part, didn't see any threads on it.
M-my Calendar Check ...
[quote=z3non]I don't believe it revives you upon death but then again I don't use autopot.[/quote]
[url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=63133&p=1084125&viewfull=1#post1084125]It does[/url]
@triiggerhappy
For all those people lying, cheating and stealing, there are people who AREN'T lying, cheating, and stealing. You don't hear about those people. You only hear about the bad ones. What I do and do not believe is irrelevant here, the feather exploit was just that; [b]an exploit[/b]. A mistake. A glitch. It wasn't supposed to be there.
In regards to the pink scrolls, that was years ago. The damage is done, and now 50% scrolls go for about $5~6 each. No, they didn't take "a few minutes" to get.
And "stabilize the economy"? Maple's economy is stable. Introducing tons of untradable items isn't going to influence anything. Maybe people won't buy protects/lucky day/innocence scrolls from NX sellers for a while, who knows? None of those items were in the FM to begin with.
And for the love of god, [b]no one is forcing anyone to buy NX[/b]. I used to buy lots of NX, but for the last few months, I haven't been buying anything. And yet I still managed to add nearly 20k to my range in the last 6 weeks.
All of your economics don't make an ounce of sense. o.o
Edit: More likes? That's cute. Many people on this site [i]would[/i] agree with your logical fallacies.
@kidpapafluff We happen to have the same hat, and a similar hair. Hardly comparable.
[quote=ClassOf12]@z3non Explain to me how an item that auto revives you when you die (on autopot) and heals during seduce is in any way intentional.[/quote]
I don't believe it revives you upon death but then again I don't use autopot.
[quote=triiggerhappy]Once again I am not talking about right now right now. Right now there are free cubes you can from root abyss and other gear that allows you to do much more than before this patch. Talking about overall you do need an above average range. You need a decent amount of boss dmg and such. You can't just go in with all 6% gear and hope to beat it. You need a above average range which can only be accomplished by spending a few bill.[/quote]
Then you and I have different scales on what we consider to be average and above average. I also stated that its a "decent range" which is slightly above average and isn't something hard to get.
[quote=ClassOf12]@z3non Explain to me how an item that auto revives you when you die (on autopot) and heals during seduce is in any way intentional.
@IIxCrusader Good luck on getting your account back[/quote]
Thank you very much sir T.T, I've given up hope though, that GM Skelorm probably won't even read my third ticket... Makes me so sad and what pisses me off the most is that I'm not the only person that have been wrongly banned with nexon giving that kind of answer.. (you might call me hypocrit as much as u want but I wasn't hacking and I bet a LOT of other legitimate players also got wrongly banned.)
[quote=triiggerhappy]Just want to point out that most my points have more likes than the few that are arguing me.[/quote]
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[url=http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbqpcpHIsa1qi56lt.gif]This is me trying to understand your logic[/url]
[quote=z3non]First of all, your misinformed knowledge of Empress Thief capes and V2 hackers led me to say what I said. Second, Why would I be butthurt about something I can easily accomplish? Also it is true that numerous kaisers have showed up at Empress lately, it doesn't mean that a large population can solo it legitimately thus voiding your comment on "most people are hackers". and last of all, indeed potion pots are recent but who cares about the past, it's what people can do at empress NOW. And also, only a decent range is required. Once again, check your facts before making an idiot out of yourself.[/quote]
Once again I am not talking about right now right now. Right now there are free cubes you can from root abyss and other gear that allows you to do much more than before this patch. Talking about overall you do need an above average range. You need a decent amount of boss dmg and such. You can't just go in with all 6% gear and hope to beat it. You need a above average range which can only be accomplished by spending a few bill.
[quote=justInfinite]More importantly, I might not get my 300 monster kills for the daily attendance event :c[/quote]
Same here... :-(
@z3non Explain to me how an item that auto revives you when you die (on autopot) and heals during seduce is in any way intentional.
@IIxCrusader Good luck on getting your account back
[quote=z3non]Oh? And where might it say that it is a glitch? Not on the Known issues section of the Bug extermination reports, nor have I seen any threads in forums saying that it's a glitch.[/quote]
Just because Nexon did not put it on their list of bugs does not mean this isn't a glitch. At Empress there is potion lock which activates every time you use a potion, no matter if it was an All Cure, Ginger Ale or a Wealth Potion. Since the potion pot is a cash shop item Nexon probably overlooked the fact that Empress has potion lock and did not apply the restrictions to it. Also most people (or at least everyone I know) do not even use the potion pot, hence the reason why they do not know of this glitch. In summary, the potion pot has the restorative effects of a potion but since it is counted as a cash shop item it was mistakenly exempted from the potion lock restriction.